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Old 05-27-2013, 12:33 AM   #16
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You can only ask is the Dog a service dog? And if they say yes you can ask what task/dog do they perform. That is to ensure that the person isn't lying or is aware of the change in laws.
After looking into this issue at the museum I work for, I was under the impression that you couldn't ask anything that might force someone to disclose their disability.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:41 AM   #17
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Legally you can not require proof of the animal being a service dog. Harnesses and tags are not what make the dog a service animal it is the task it performs.
You can only ask is the Dog a service dog? And if they say yes you can ask what task/dog do they perform. That is to ensure that the person isn't lying or is aware of the change in laws.
Now technically a therapy dog is not a service dog as of 2011. The ADA laws were changed to say that only dogs that perform a task or service are protected by law. Therapy dogs are specifically mentioned as not fitting this bill. The dog must be trained to guide, retrieve, protect, etc not simply provide comfort. The issue is many big companies are too afraid of getting sued to question and frankly many don't know the law changed in 2011.
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After looking into this issue at the museum I work for, I was under the impression that you couldn't ask anything that might force someone to disclose their disability.
As wilkeliza posted, you can ask 2 questions:
1) is this dog a service animal required because of a disability?

2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

Both of those questions can be answered without making the person disclose the nature of their disability.
Here is a link to the ADA Service Briefs for businesses:

http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:40 AM   #18
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I've often thought of getting a mobility service dog.....but I wouldn't know where to "park it" when on rides (he'd have to be a large breed with a harness). I'm getting a Black Russian Terrior next month, the males average around 130 lbs. I'm thinking I'd probably need to crate him while in the parks.
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:59 AM   #19
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We just came home from a week long stay at the GF.
The owner of the dog had no problem letting him do his business at the lawn or at the boat dock. The dog also went swimming in the pool ever day. I have no idea if this is allowed just found it strange but the CM had no problem with all this.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:02 AM   #20
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As a side note, in the airport I saw a medical dog of some sort that was wearing a harness, but then the harness had a patch that said "ask to pet me, I'm friendly". I thought that was crazy, talk about sending mixed messages!
I wonder if the dog was being trained. I don't know much about service dogs, but I bet they have to have the ability to be friendly and not get upset if a stranger tries to touch them. Perhaps one way they teach the dog to be used to a lot of strangers is through having a lot of people pet them?
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:31 AM   #21
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I wonder if the dog was being trained. I don't know much about service dogs, but I bet they have to have the ability to be friendly and not get upset if a stranger tries to touch them. Perhaps one way they teach the dog to be used to a lot of strangers is through having a lot of people pet them?
You're right in that they do train this but it's done during the class period and done at pet friendly places, not at WDW.

I'm sure, just like the GAC, there is going to be a small number of people who will abuse the system to get their dog in the park.
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:35 AM   #22
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We saw it dressed as Leia...If its a therapy dog thats cool...i was just confused i guess because in our area it IS law that ANY service or therapy animal must have clear identification.
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:43 AM   #23
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Service while being trained or working must wear a vest or some other identifying mark. Just like anything else people will work the system to their advantage. Just do a google search for service animal vests and you could buy any one you want.
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:57 AM   #24
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Therapy dogs are not the same as service dogs and you do want people to pet those because the idea is to get them used to strangers having their hands all over the them. I think the best thing to do would be to have children ask before they pet any dog.
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:36 AM   #26
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I would think bringing a dog into the parks would tend to limit the theme park experience of the owner. Obviously it could not go on rides, at least the best ones. As long as they are not in restaurants (except service dogs) they would not bother me.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:31 AM   #27
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I've seen some airports do have dogs go around for people to pet. They are used to help people relax while traveling, since it can be so stressful to fly sometimes. Maybe the dog with the pet me sign was used for that purpose too.
As for a comfort dog, I have anxiety & at times it can be severe. (totally panicked during the morning cattle run to Soarin & had to jump in a quiet spot away from the run to calm myself) I've oftened wished I could bring my little crestie with me everywhere because she makes me feel better. But I don't think a Disney park would be good or fun for her, too many people, too much noise, etc.
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I have to agree; it seems like lately this particular moderator has been a bit over the top.

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Old 05-27-2013, 12:41 PM   #30
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This is just crazy. One of my daughters was attacked by a dog and is extremely afraid to be around them. If she encounters one she would need more emotional assistance than any dog could help. It would totally upset her if a dog came close or really anywhere near her.
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