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Old 04-30-2013, 12:38 AM   #211
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Try reserving online and see what you get. You were given benefit outside the rules and outside of the normal approach. I wouldn't count on this option going forward nor would the argument that you were allowed to do this previously be reasonable. But DVC is nothing if not inconsistent.
What do you mean? I DID book my reservations online. I wasn't given benefit outside the rules and outside of the normal approach by some nice MS that I happened to talk to. That's what I've been saying all along. Everyone always say "DVC is nothing but inconsistent". "MS doesn't allow this". And what I said was maybe it has always been allowed but before online booking, it's always been dependent on the MS if they're going to even try it or not. Human intervention always causes inconsistencies due to different ways of interpreting rules. Systems do what they've been programmed to do. In this case, either its developer error on implementing a business rule or something that has always been allowed but is not obvious to members.

With online booking, everyone gets direct access to the booking system. If it wasn't allowed, the system shouldn't allow it to be booked or present them as options.

All I am doing is refuting the "common wisdom" that everyone has had even before online booking and presenting a case where it was allowed by the system. Not sure if those who keep on saying it's not allowed has even tried to do it lately with the new online booking system. I booked 3 trips with our family of 6: 1BR BCV, 1 BR BWV and 1 BR BLT. I was surprised myself when it happened. I was glad I tried it instead of just doing what I read from the boards.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:48 AM   #212
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This is exactly the opposite of us. So yup individuals make it different. DH n I lovvvvve our alone time a 1 bedroom gives us, and I'd have a harder time relaxing being in a studio for long periods of time. i like talking to him, sitting on the porch outside with a glass of wine after they sleep ( or coffee b4 they wake). I think the value 2 br at Ak is the value-est option for you, if u can live with the busses ( or rent a car). ( fam of 4 with our new addition.
Yeah, the only alone time we ever get is after all the kids are in bed
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:15 AM   #213
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What do you mean? I DID book my reservations online. I wasn't given benefit outside the rules and outside of the normal approach by some nice MS that I happened to talk to. That's what I've been saying all along. Everyone always say "DVC is nothing but inconsistent". "MS doesn't allow this". And what I said was maybe it has always been allowed but before online booking, it's always been dependent on the MS if they're going to even try it or not. Human intervention always causes inconsistencies due to different ways of interpreting rules. Systems do what they've been programmed to do. In this case, either its developer error on implementing a business rule or something that has always been allowed but is not obvious to members.

With online booking, everyone gets direct access to the booking system. If it wasn't allowed, the system shouldn't allow it to be booked or present them as options.

All I am doing is refuting the "common wisdom" that everyone has had even before online booking and presenting a case where it was allowed by the system. Not sure if those who keep on saying it's not allowed has even tried to do it lately with the new online booking system. I booked 3 trips with our family of 6: 1BR BCV, 1 BR BWV and 1 BR BLT. I was surprised myself when it happened. I was glad I tried it instead of just doing what I read from the boards.
I tried it before I posted, for BCV it wouldn't allow you to proceed with 6 listed or 5 with plus an infant. Regardless of how you did it, you were allowed to do so beyond the rules and normal application of those rules thus you should not expect that option to continue nor should others expect that same option.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:11 AM   #214
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Same with us. We thought we'd book 1BRs for a few years until our kids got older (they are now 8, 11 and almost 13), but then we booked a 2BR for our first trip and have never looked back. We've been to WDW plenty over the past six years, and would now rather have a shorter stay in a 2BR over a longer stay with less space. It has gotten more difficult scheduling a full week at WDW now, anyway, with school/sports schedules, plus wanting to visit other places besides WDW. We would have been fine in a 1BR for the first few years we visited WDW, but we did not buy DVC until after a few years of Disney trips and by that time were ready for more time relaxing in our villa.

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Old 04-30-2013, 11:25 PM   #215
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I tried it before I posted, for BCV it wouldn't allow you to proceed with 6 listed or 5 with plus an infant. Regardless of how you did it, you were allowed to do so beyond the rules and normal application of those rules thus you should not expect that option to continue nor should others expect that same option.
I don't know what you're doing. I just tried it again tonight and both BCV and BWV is allowing me to do it. Maybe it's the ages of my kids? I don't really know.

If I select a studio, I get an error message: "The room type selected cannot accommodate your travel party. Please make another selection."

But a 1BR Villa goes thru fine. I really only have 1-2 years left to do it before we HAVE to graduate to a 2BR, so if the system continues to allow me, I will continue to try to do it to save points
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:51 AM   #216
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I don't know what you're doing. I just tried it again tonight and both BCV and BWV is allowing me to do it. Maybe it's the ages of my kids? I don't really know.

If I select a studio, I get an error message: "The room type selected cannot accommodate your travel party. Please make another selection."

But a 1BR Villa goes thru fine. I really only have 1-2 years left to do it before we HAVE to graduate to a 2BR, so if the system continues to allow me, I will continue to try to do it to save points
I put in 6 adults and 5 adults 1 infant, my statement stands that for whatever reason your getting an unintended benefit you cannot expect to persist.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:13 AM   #217
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I put in 6 adults and 5 adults 1 infant, my statement stands that for whatever reason your getting an unintended benefit you cannot expect to persist.
Well, my kid won't be under 3 forever, so it definitely won't persist

And I don't put 6 adults or 5 adults + 1 infant. I put 2 adults, 4 kids since that's my situation and the only situation I ever ask/say other folks to try it. I've never said 6 adults or 5 adults + 1 infant to begin with.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:29 AM   #218
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I was just curious and tested out some occupancy limits and it looks like as long as a child is an "infant" (under 3) it doesn't count towards occupancy. I didn't try every resort/room type but for those studios or 1 bedrooms I queried for, it didn't care whether the 4 people in a studio were adults or kids or whether the 5 people in the 1 bedroom were adults or kids. It allowed 5 total in a studio/6 total in a 1 bedroom as long as the 5th/6th person was an infant.

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Well, my kid won't be under 3 forever, so it definitely won't persist

And I don't put 6 adults or 5 adults + 1 infant. I put 2 adults, 4 kids since that's my situation and the only situation I ever ask/say other folks to try it. I've never said 6 adults or 5 adults + 1 infant to begin with.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:18 PM   #219
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I have posted this a few times I believe.

We own at BCV and we are booking this Nov for next Oct .It's me, my DH, and my DD (adult), and our twins age 6 at the time of travel. I guess my question is last time we stayed at BCv we had a studio they were a little younger ,would we have to get a 1 BR this time or can we still get a studio?
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You would have to get 2 studios, a 1 bedroom or a 2 bedroom villa. If your twins were under 3 years old they would allow you all to stay in a studio.

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We own at BCV and we are booking this Nov for next Oct .It's me, my DH, and my DD (adult), and our twins age 6 at the time of travel. I guess my question is last time we stayed at BCv we had a studio they were a little younger ,would we have to get a 1 BR this time or can we still get a studio?
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:27 PM   #221
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And I don't put 6 adults or 5 adults + 1 infant. I put 2 adults, 4 kids since that's my situation and the only situation I ever ask/say other folks to try it. I've never said 6 adults or 5 adults + 1 infant to begin with.
I was curious and tried it myself. I tried both "2 adults, 4 kids" (with one listed as an infant) and I tried "5 adults, 1 infant". Both of them worked. I did not get the error message about the room type being too small for the travel party. I could have booked any of the following for 5 adults and 1 infant: BCV, BWV, AKV (every booking category except the Value 1BR), OKW, VWL and SSR.

ETA: I stopped at the point where it showed me the room availability. I did not select a resort and proceed to the next stage of booking. It's possible I would have gotten an error message further along in the process. However, if I put in 5 adults and a child age 3 or older, I got an error message about the room type not being able to accommodate the travel party. I suspect that is the only place the check is being done. I probably could have booked the room for 5 adults and an infant if I had continued with the reservation process.
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I was curious and tried it myself. I tried both "2 adults, 4 kids" (with one listed as an infant) and I tried "5 adults, 1 infant". Both of them worked. I did not get the error message about the room type being too small for the travel party. I could have booked any of the following for 5 adults and 1 infant: BCV, BWV, AKV (every booking category except the Value 1BR), OKW, VWL and SSR.

ETA: I stopped at the point where it showed me the room availability. I did not select a resort and proceed to the next stage of booking. It's possible I would have gotten an error message further along in the process. However, if I put in 5 adults and a child age 3 or older, I got an error message about the room type not being able to accommodate the travel party. I suspect that is the only place the check is being done. I probably could have booked the room for 5 adults and an infant if I had continued with the reservation process.
I was always under the impression that that was the case, but some here said I was incorrect and since it doesn't apply to me, I never looked into it. If we (DVC) are legitimately allowed 5 I truly take that to mean 5+1 infant just like the Disney rooms that permit 4 are really 4+1. I never thought it made sense that they would treat DVC differently (and "worse" if you want to see it that way) than the rest of the resort.
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We are looking at buying DVC with BLT as our home resort. We are a family of 5; 2adults, 8yo, and 3 month old twins. Which resorts will allow a family of 5 in a 1 bedroom once my twins are over 3. Thanks!
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We are looking at buying DVC with BLT as our home resort. We are a family of 5; 2adults, 8yo, and 3 month old twins. Which resorts will allow a family of 5 in a 1 bedroom once my twins are over 3. Thanks!
According to the current DVC point charts, it is BLT. Both AKV and OKW 1 BR point charts state all sleep 4, most sleep 5. I didn't check the non-WDW DVC resorts.

I think that some of the posts here may reflect what an original ownership contract may have stated, or the way point charts used to read.
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According to the current DVC point charts, it is BLT. Both AKV and OKW 1 BR point charts state all sleep 4, most sleep 5. I didn't check the non-WDW DVC resorts.

I think that some of the posts here may reflect what an original ownership contract may have stated, or the way point charts used to read.
If you book a 1br at AKV with 5 guests listed, they'll only put you in a room that has a sleeper chair. The value 1br only sleeps 4. The standard view & Savannah view sleep 5.
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