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Old 04-25-2013, 08:58 PM   #91
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Does that make you Miss Moneypenny?

James Bond: Hmm, never seen you after hours, Moneypenny... lovely.
Miss Moneypenny: Thank you, James.
James Bond: Out on some kind of fashion assignment, dressing to kill?
Miss Moneypenny: I know you'll find this crushing, 007, but I don't sit at home every night praying for some international incident so I can run down here all dressed up to impress James Bond. I was on a date,
James Bond: Moneypenny, I'm devastated.
Haha! I guess it does.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:31 PM   #92
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Does the 3day Dream have a semi formal night?
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:35 PM   #93
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Does the 3day dream have a semi formal night?
The 3 night (and 4 night, for that matter) have a Dress Up Optional night.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:14 PM   #94
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I also like to dress up for dinner - one night of formal is perfect, cruise casual (a nice sundress, khakis and button down for men) is wonderful for the others. I feel it is part of the fun and the "specialness" of a cruise -- this isn't taking the family to Chili's on a Tuesday because I am too tired to cook... this is my vacation. All this is only an opinion, of course.

I also agree that there needs to be a shorts option for those times you just can't summon the energy to shower and shave and blowdry and put on uncomfortable undergarments. And that option should be just as tasty!

Cruise lines want to associate themselves with elegance, opulence and pampering. You lose that mood when you have a fancy, ostentatious dining room full of people in less-than ostentatious clothing. It is a slippery slope. We all love Disney BECAUSE they give us that pampered feeling... to stay separated from those "other" cruise lines, they need their dress code rules.

And we, of course, need a place to eat for that one night out of 4 or 5 or 7 that we are too sunburned and exhausted from a great port adventure to get "dressed up."
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Cruise lines want to associate themselves with elegance, opulence and pampering. You lose that mood when you have a fancy, ostentatious dining room full of people in less-than ostentatious clothing. It is a slippery slope. We all love Disney BECAUSE they give us that pampered feeling... to stay separated from those "other" cruise lines, they need their dress code rules.


Maybe that's where I differ or where I'm going wrong. I don't think of those things when I think of cruising. I consider cruising the ultimate laid-back vacation (as opposed to, say, WDW which is usually "go, go, go"). And formal wear & "laid back" do not exactly go hand-in-hand.
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Maybe that's where I differ or where I'm going wrong. I don't think of those things when I think of cruising. I consider cruising the ultimate laid-back vacation (as opposed to, say, WDW which is usually "go, go, go"). And formal wear & "laid back" do not exactly go hand-in-hand.
Cruising originally was about elegance and service and also about transport. You typically got a ship if you need to go somewhere and cruising allowed you to do so in style. Now we have commercial vacation cruises. Some want relaxation when they vacation and others want what cruises use to offer which is elegance.

The one line that comes to mind with elegance is Seaborn cruises. My boyfriend and his family sail them often and well no formal wear means room service for you that night. Every night of their Mediterranean cruise required dress shirts and slacks for men dresses or dress shirt and slacks for women and children were not excluded. On formal night jacket and tie were required. Everyone including the 6 year old followed the rules. However the difference is this company is a luxury cruise liner and Disney is a family cruise line.

I don't care for dressing up and except for Pirate night I did dress up. I would have even figured something out for pirates night had I had enough time to change before the party.
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I also agree that there needs to be a shorts option for those times you just can't summon the energy to shower and shave and blowdry and put on uncomfortable undergarments. And that option should be just as tasty!
One thing about the European cruises we've experienced on DCL is that on port days, the dining staff encourages you to "come as you are" to the dining rooms to eat rather than skipping dinner because you've just gotten back onboard and there's not much time to change. So if you've been in shorts and t-shirts in the port all day and get back onboard right around dinner time, they'd rather you just drop your stuff off in your cabin, wash your hands and face, and come have a dinner they have waiting for you than to not show up for dinner. Of course on sea-days, then you have plenty of time to get ready for dinner
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Cruise lines want to associate themselves with elegance, opulence and pampering. You lose that mood when you have a fancy, ostentatious dining room full of people in less-than ostentatious clothing.

I think you 'loose the mood' when the wait staff parades thru the dining room carrying flags and singing "It's a small world after all" or when a fish starts talking and calling kids 'dude' at a table.

And therein lies the problem. Disney is shooting for a fun, family atmosphere not an ostentatious atmosphere. They want people to dress up if the want to but don't want to ruin someone's cruise by telling them "You can't come in here dressed like THAT you slobs! What are you a buch of rednecks or something!?" :-)

Anyway, I think they've hit a good balance with their current approach. For the short cruises, they have 'optional dress up' and for the longer cruises they have one 'formal' night to provide cover for people who like to dress up for dinner but don't want to seem ostentatious.
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I think you 'loose the mood' when the wait staff parades thru the dining room carrying flags and singing "It's a small world after all" or when a fish starts talking and calling kids 'dude' at a table.

And therein lies the problem. Disney is shooting for a fun, family atmosphere not an ostentatious atmosphere. They want people to dress up if the want to but don't want to ruin someone's cruise by telling them "You can't come in here dressed like THAT you slobs! What are you a buch of rednecks or something!?" :-)

Anyway, I think they've hit a good balance with their current approach. For the short cruises, they have 'optional dress up' and for the longer cruises they have one 'formal' night to provide cover for people who like to dress up for dinner but don't want to seem ostentatious.
I agree. Duuuuuude.

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One thing about the European cruises we've experienced on DCL is that on port days, the dining staff encourages you to "come as you are" to the dining rooms to eat rather than skipping dinner because you've just gotten back onboard and there's not much time to change. So if you've been in shorts and t-shirts in the port all day and get back onboard right around dinner time, they'd rather you just drop your stuff off in your cabin, wash your hands and face, and come have a dinner they have waiting for you than to not show up for dinner. Of course on sea-days, then you have plenty of time to get ready for dinner
This is a great idea!!!

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Maybe that's where I differ or where I'm going wrong. I don't think of those things when I think of cruising. I consider cruising the ultimate laid-back vacation (as opposed to, say, WDW which is usually "go, go, go"). And formal wear & "laid back" do not exactly go hand-in-hand.
True. NO one scoffs a shorts and tank tops a 'Ohana because people have been schlepping around a theme park for 12 hours in 90 degree temps. Cruises give you the time and stateroom-accesibilty to change. Theoretically. I guess in the end it doesn't bother me if people are in shorts at Lumiere's and why would it?
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My husband isn't one of them. He LOVES any excuse to wear his tux. It makes him feel like James Bond or something.
Ummm heck yeah.

Pretending to be James Bond, with our significant other in the role of Bond Girl (or guy, as the case may be), is preeeetty much the number one reason a guy puts on a tux.

Some guys may 'claim' that they do it just to look good, but I 100,000,000% guarantee you that every single guy who puts on a tux, looks at himself in the mirror in profile, puts his index fingers together to make his hands look look like a gun, and does the quick turn to face the mirror, all while humming the James Bond theme.
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