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Old 04-25-2013, 10:40 AM   #16
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It has been stated that FP+ will be able to be used by all park goers wheather they stay onsite or not.

My concern is that everyone will want those evening FP+'s making those harder to get. My family are RDers but why would we set FP+'s for the morning hours when normally that is when the park is less crowded?
To me it's also concerning that we might only be able to get a fastpass for one headliner if that and the rest might only be good for less popular attractions.

Of course all of this is just conjecture but I really don't see why the rides will be less crowded as a result of the new system as a few other posters said. I just see us possibly unable to get as many fastpasses as before.
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This goes against most of what is known to date. When bracelets are in use, for instance, there is assumed to be no way to get "regular FPs" from the FP kiosks currently in use. The T&C also state that regular FP and FP+ will be mutually exclusive.

Information from a CM should not be necessarily considered to be the de facto truth. I would venture to guess that conservatively 95% or more of the CMs at WDW have, at the moment, no real idea of how the final product will operate.
Well I'm going on what I know from a relatively "official" source. I would like to think they wouldn't give out completely false information like that. My questions were pretty direct and she said in no uncertain terms you can use both on the same day... I guess time will tell.

It's also possible what she said is correct today, but not necessarily correct when it all rolls out.
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Well I'm going on what I know from a relatively "official" source. I would like to think they wouldn't give out completely false information like that. My questions were pretty direct and she said in no uncertain terms you can use both on the same day... I guess time will tell.

It's also possible what she said is correct today, but not necessarily correct when it all rolls out.
There are about 60,000 "official sources" at WDW then.

Trust me I hope she's right, but again it doesn't jibe with what little "official" information we have.
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When bracelets are in use, for instance, there is assumed to be no way to get "regular FPs" from the FP kiosks currently in use.
There's no reason to think that you would have to use the regular magnetic strip FP machines to get fastpasses during the day. You could just get them from the new RFID touch kiosks. The trick will be whether they'll be available day-of for attractions or times you might want.

Of course none of us knows for sure how it's going to work now.
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There are about 60,000 "official sources" at WDW then.

Trust me I hope she's right, but again it doesn't jibe with what little "official" information we have.
I just read the Terms and Conditions you were talking about and those do seem to indicate that once you go "paperless" you can't go back.

That's... a little frustrating.

I really hope that changes between now and the official roll-out.

Or that it hasn't started by the time I'm there.
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I would venture to guess that conservatively 95% or more of the CMs at WDW have, at the moment, no real idea of how the final product will operate.
It seems like we're all in the same boat there!!!!
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I just read the Terms and Conditions you were talking about and those do seem to indicate that once you go "paperless" you can't go back.

That's... a little frustrating.

I really hope that changes between now and the official roll-out.

Or that it hasn't started by the time I'm there.
I think most of us are torn on what to think about the impending FP+. I feel your pain.
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There's no reason to think that you would have to use the regular magnetic strip FP machines to get fastpasses during the day. You could just get them from the new RFID touch kiosks. The trick will be whether they'll be available day-of for attractions or times you might want.

Of course none of us knows for sure how it's going to work now.
Wait, so there will be FastPass machines that you can wave your bracelet by to get a ticket similar to the old way when you stick your card in the slot?

If that ends up being the case, then you're right, you should be able to do both (pending availability, of course). The T&C, though, seem to indicate you need the old-fashioned mag-strip tickets to get a regular FastPass and once you get the new ticket... things... you have no way of getting the regular passes anymore.

It's possible the T&C will change, or that they apply to the testing for the FP+ and not for the system once everything's official.

But mostly, I'm just confused.
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Wait, so there will be FastPass machines that you can wave your bracelet by to get a ticket similar to the old way when you stick your card in the slot?

If that ends up being the case, then you're right, you should be able to do both (pending availability, of course). The T&C, though, seem to indicate you need the old-fashioned mag-strip tickets to get a regular FastPass and once you get the new ticket... things... you have no way of getting the regular passes anymore.

It's possible the T&C will change, or that they apply to the testing for the FP+ and not for the system once everything's official.

But mostly, I'm just confused.
That pretty much sums it up for all of us.

We don't know many of the specifics like TDC Nala mentioned, so we're all pretty confused. We just answer questions as best we can.
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That pretty much sums it up for all of us.

We don't know many of the specifics like TDC Nala mentioned, so we're all pretty confused. We just answer questions as best we can.
I really hope the CM online was correct, but it almost seems too good to be true. It fits a little too well into mine and a lot of other smart people's strategies.
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Wait, so there will be FastPass machines that you can wave your bracelet by to get a ticket similar to the old way when you stick your card in the slot?

If that ends up being the case, then you're right, you should be able to do both (pending availability, of course). The T&C, though, seem to indicate you need the old-fashioned mag-strip tickets to get a regular FastPass and once you get the new ticket... things... you have no way of getting the regular passes anymore.

It's possible the T&C will change, or that they apply to the testing for the FP+ and not for the system once everything's official.

But mostly, I'm just confused.
I would think you would not get a paper Fastpass ticket. It would be electronic and stored on your account that you access with the RFID bracelet/card, and there would be no more paper involved. That would all be in the future, at some point where everyone has only RFID/compatible ticket media, be it a card or a bracelet. They won't be doing it now, or possibly anytime soon. Or maybe never. There's no way to know yet.
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Just hypothesizing along w/ you. If all we had to do to get a FastPass w/ FastPass+ was to wave our magic band in front of a reader...how would we be able to look up the time for the FastPass after we walked away from the reader?
I know there is the app for smart phones, so techincally once it is loaded 'in your band' it would then be 'in your app'.. potentially...maybe.. and if you don't have the app can you still get a band? If so, what happens then once you load your FastPass?
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Just hypothesizing along w/ you. If all we had to do to get a FastPass w/ FastPass+ was to wave our magic band in front of a reader...how would we be able to look up the time for the FastPass after we walked away from the reader?
I know there is the app for smart phones, so techincally once it is loaded 'in your band' it would then be 'in your app'.. potentially...maybe.. and if you don't have the app can you still get a band? If so, what happens then once you load your FastPass?
WHY COULDN'T THINGS JUST STAY THE WAY THEY WERE?!?!?!?
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