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Old 04-19-2013, 06:31 PM   #91
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My apologies, but I'm having a hard time making heads or tails of this--

Do you hate boardwalk for some reason? Or do you love the feel of Allstars? (many people do) Does any one else get this? Not trying to be rude, just trying to understand.
I understand completely what they are saying. They care more for the location of the Boardwalk Inn than the amenities. I think that is understandable. The location is exactly what the poster wants in staying at a hotel, being easily accessible to Epcot, and DHS as well. And similarly, people are willing to pay that money to stay on the monorail line, or even walking distance to the MK in the case of Contemporary.

To me, my family spends very little time at the resort anyway, so amenities and stuff like that mean very little to me. I'm much more interested in location (especially being on Disney property), transportation, Magical Express, etc.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:03 PM   #92
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Thank you for the clarification. As it turns out we are in complete agreement. Staying at the BW, BC, and BLT (DVC member) in my opinion are so far superior to any other location on property, we won't stay anywhere else. As far as the pricing, when you have developed a "world" which is like nothing ever created anywhere else, regardless of the current levels of neglect , you can charge whatever you want for admission. The reason the pricing is not excessive is because there is no other place to compare it to. If you want the disney experience, you can't get it at universal, simply due to the size differences. Until another company buys huge acreage, creates better parks, resorts, transportation, dinning, and yes, people like the shopping, Disney will never have a real competitor.
Good to hear-yes you summed up what I meant/feel as well. I get 10 days (with 2 weekend in there) to get out of these 80 hour year around work weeks and have found this "creation" as you say is far and away "THEE" place we are going. We do often split a few days at BLT so we can walk to MK as well. I don't think Disney's "Deluxe" has to be at Four Season levels at all.

Once Four Seasons builds next to EPCOT and has its own entrance-I will be glad to check pricing and amenities. But even then, the ease of ME regarding bags etc better be included. Right or wrong-I can't really improve on what we get there currently.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:36 PM   #93
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Good to hear-yes you summed up what I meant/feel as well. I get 10 days (with 2 weekend in there) to get out of these 80 hour year around work weeks and have found this "creation" as you say is far and away "THEE" place we are going. We do often split a few days at BLT so we can walk to MK as well. I don't think Disney's "Deluxe" has to be at Four Season levels at all.

Once Four Seasons builds next to EPCOT and has its own entrance-I will be glad to check pricing and amenities. But even then, the ease of ME regarding bags etc better be included. Right or wrong-I can't really improve on what we get there currently.
It's own entrance? You have inside info?
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It's own entrance? You have inside info?
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:48 AM   #95
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I would love if Disney made fast passes exclusive to delude resort guests like what is done at universal.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:05 AM   #96
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I would love if Disney made fast passes exclusive to delude resort guests like what is done at universal.
Good idea or maybe resort guest get 6 fp and non resort get 3 in regards to MM+
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:58 AM   #97
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I would love if Disney made fast passes exclusive to delude resort guests like what is done at universal.
That's nice for those who can AFFORD deluxe..... That's the problem today..everything for those who have the most.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:44 PM   #98
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That's nice for those who can AFFORD deluxe..... That's the problem today..everything for those who have the most.
I'm not sure that is just today---I think it has always been that way.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:43 PM   #99
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But for the price difference between a deluxe and a value you don't get much extra
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:13 AM   #100
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But for the price difference between a deluxe and a value you don't get much extra
As stated above-- for some of us the walk to the parks (location) is priceless ( almost)
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:11 AM   #101
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As stated above-- for some of us the walk to the parks (location) is priceless ( almost)
$1500 a week?

Wow...I though I hated buses...

YOU must really hate buses
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I'm not sure that is just today---I think it has always been that way.
Here here...Disney has never stated any desire to become a registered charity
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$1500 a week?

Wow...I though I hated buses...

YOU must really hate buses
Depends what your time is worth. We saved over 100 hours on a trip, that's $15 an hour. And you still have all "deluxe" factors to add yet. Bigger beds, better pools and slides, dining, room service etc.

We did 5 days at BLT mostly MK and 5 BW mostly EPCOT and DHS. Only did one morning at AK.

We consider bus travel to the parks a waste of time, or at least we would rather not have to do. Instead use the time to sleep, drink, swim, sun bathe, dine etc.

For 5 of us the locations saved us 30 minutes each way, or 150 minutes each way (5). At going to the park, returning for lunch/swim/rest, then back to the park, and back after a night show, is 4 trips per day minimum, or 600 minutes per day. At 10 days that's 6,000 minutes or 100 hours.

For our 1 week a year, yes its more than worth it, so the money is not the reason-it's the time, and accommodations/amenities.
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Here here...Disney has never stated any desire to become a registered charity
Since when are people who are PAYING to stay at a value or a moderate receiving any kind of "charity". The elitist attitude is vulgar.
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Since when are people who are PAYING to stay at a value or a moderate receiving any kind of "charity". The elitist attitude is vulgar.
You're right...I shouldn't have used "charity"... That wasn't the right context to use it in.

I was commenting that Disney's goal is maximum profit...and always has been. The antithesis of a profit business would be a charity.

The comment that started this was about the "haves and have nots"
Disney has never cared publically or privately about "have nots". Never once.

I wasn't referring to any particular travelers at wdw...but see it was a bad choice of metaphor and apologize. My bad
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