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Old 04-17-2013, 01:25 AM   #31
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Ummm.....I liked your review until it took a negative turn about the cruise director "Queen" and electronica music. I guess sometimes I forget that people have strong feelings about that. I'm not sure how his sexual orientation really matters.
As a person that believes I marriage equality I didn't take this as negative at all but a characterization of the ships atmosphere. I've heard other characterizations that deal with atmosphere like "hard core partiers" that under the right circumstances (ie - without my kids) I would love to be a part of. However, I wouldn't want my young kids Ina sexually charged atmosphere (gay or straight) or around a bunch of power drinkers.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:33 AM   #32
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Great review. I especially appreciated your detailed examples! You made great points, not just sweeping generalizations. Love it when my loyalty to DCL gets reinforced!!
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:38 AM   #33
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That being said, I would have had to stay in my cabin all the time, as I do not appreciate adult humor, shows, music, drinking etc
I'm not a "show" person, I'm not a comedy club person (apart from seeing Eddie Izzard live, and I would see him a million times more), and our honeymoon cruise was a week after our wedding and we could already tell I was pregnant, so it wasn't a big drinking time. One of the reasons we knew was that I was falling asleep by 8pm (note the time I'm writing this pacific time...I'm not even tired, I'm a total nightowl by nature), so DH had fun on the ship in the later evenings on his own, and had a GREAT time. And he does not drink. We had a lovely time during the days on RCCL. I'm sorry you think you would have to stay in your cabin, just because there are shows that might not be appropriate for you.



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Anyhow, the word has such negative connotation that I think it's best to avoid it unless with friends who are ok with it. My 2 cents; nothing more.
I completely agree. My BIL and his partner can use it, but I'm not going to use it in conversation. That whole section of the review made me incredibly uncomfortable, because I just didn't see what it had to do with anything. And, OP, the whole point of Hairspray is that there are performers in drag. If you didn't like the drag performers and didn't expect it, there wasn't quite enough research on the show ahead of time.



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It's interesting that your review of the kids club is so different from how people are always saying how awesome the RCI kids clubs are.
Remember that any person's opinion on the clubs is based on how their kids felt about the clubs at that time. Kids are all different, so you'll have different opinions!
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:06 AM   #34
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Remember that any person's opinion on the clubs is based on how their kids felt about the clubs at that time. Kids are all different, so you'll have different opinions!
That's very true. I think most children enjoy structured organized activities. Mine does not. When he goes to the club/lab it's to watch movies, run around playing with other kids, and to play video games. He will occasionally color or read. If they are making cookies or flubber he will do that only if its not crowed and he's not getting pushed aside. If RCI has no independent activities that he has the option to do 100% of the time he won't go. I think most people who report that their kids love the clubs on RCI must have kids who like the organized activities. I would need more options for my kid to enjoy them.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:37 AM   #35
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I am also a DVC member & been on the Disney Fantasy twice since her launch & the Allure (Oasis sister ship) once.

I found the Allure wonderful!

Better Common areas, shows & activities than the Fantasy which feels almost claustrophobic compared to the Allure or the Disney Magic!

The Pool decks on the Allure blow the Fantasy away!

The show variety on the Allure & promenade parades & dance parties are at the least the equal of Disney I feel the Allure's are better! Comedy Club, Ice Show, Production Shows, Water Shows, Diving Shows, oh & a casino!

Nickel & Dime, with the exception of having to buy a soda card or pay for soda I find no difference. The Liquor is priced about the same.

You have more options on the Allure than the Fantasy, Johnny Rockets, Rosas Cantina, Japanese (cant recall the name) Brazilian, Chops, One Fifty Central Park, Italian all great! Have been to both Remy's & Palo's Remy's compares well to One Fifty Central Park but as far as I'm concerned Chops blows them all out of the water!

Kids Clubs yes Disney is the best & probably will stay that way however as your young ones age (my youngest is 8 (on the Fantasy) & was 7 when we were on the Allure. They tend to want there freedom & stop into the clubs at their leisure for some fun. That being said My youngest has never seen a kids club she did not like (Still liked Disney Clubs the best both the Fantasy & Magic).

Should say that we are going to Disney for Xmas staying at Bay Lake Towers (DVC at the Contemporary) than going back on the Allure for NYE this year!!

Any way that's my 2 cents!

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Old 04-17-2013, 08:46 AM   #36
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I'd be curious to know what you mean by 'profanity' on Hairspray ? Abour men in drag, it's been like.this since the 60's when the first movie was released !
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:00 AM   #37
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Thank you for this great review! I didn't find anything you posted disrespectful... in fact, I appreciate your candid observations. Like most people, we have limited funds for vacations and I want to make sure we're getting the best vacation experience we can with what we can afford. This just confirms that DCL is our line of choice.

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:59 AM   #38
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I'd be curious to know what you mean by 'profanity' on Hairspray ? Abour men in drag, it's been like.this since the 60's when the first movie was released !
Wow! Ricki lake looks really good for her age!! The original hairspray was released in 1988. FYI.

OP I appreciate your review but I do think you did quite a bit of stereotyping. The techno music you stereotyped as gay is very popular in a lot of different countries.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:00 AM   #39
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I read your review with great interest. I've been on 15 Disney cruises, twice on Dream, the rest on Wonder and Magic. This Sunday, I leave for my first Royal Caribbean cruise, a 14-night TransAtlantic on Adventure of the Seas. Your review included a lot of information about the "flavor" of your cruise, which is what I really needed to know!

I have decided that I'm going into this with the idea that it's going to be just as awesome as my other cruises, just in a different way. From pictures I've seen, the ship looks beautiful. I know that the room will be smaller, but I'll have a porthole instead of an inside room so it's a good trade.

I do plan on writing a comparative review also, but it will be from an "older couple" point of view, since this is my DH's retirement trip.

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Old 04-17-2013, 10:23 AM   #40
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My 11 year old son did like the kids club... they had structured activities but he enjoyed them. At 10 p.m. every night they started a "gaga ball" tournament that is basically dodge ball from the knees down. they played that for an hour. He really enjoyed playing gaga ball. Not sure what else there was to do if you didn't want to play gaga ball. They gave out prizes and the last night of the cruise he was so proud to have won a silver medal.
I just got off Allure of the Seas on Sunday and I have to totally agree with you here. My son was in Allure's 9-11 year old group, and every time I would pick him up from the club, they were playing this 'gaga ball' game. And I met him at the club at different hours of the day, on different days, and EVERY time I got there, they were playing this game where they're throwing balls at each other. So I finally asked my son "don't you all do anything DIFFERENT in this club...?" His response was "not really, but it's fun". I really expected more from the kid's club on Allure, but I guess that was my mistake! I'm glad my son had fun, but wish they offered more of a variety of things for them to do. Hence, why we're giving DCL a try for our next cruise....
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:43 AM   #41
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OP were you on a 7 night cruise? The reason I ask is because a shorter cruise could account for the party type atmosphere you encountered. I've also read that some of the cruises out of Florida can have more of a party/club type atmosphere. They may have just been catering to a party clientele while Disney caters more to families.
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OP were you on a 7 night cruise? The reason I ask is because a shorter cruise could account for the party type atmosphere you encountered. I've also read that some of the cruises out of Florida can have more of a party/club type atmosphere. They may have just been catering to a party clientele while Disney caters more to families.
I am pretty sure the Oasis is currently only doing 7 night itineraries, similar to the Fantasy.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:47 PM   #43
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Wow! Ricki lake looks really good for her age!! The original hairspray was released in 1988. FYI.

OP I appreciate your review but I do think you did quite a bit of stereotyping. The techno music you stereotyped as gay is very popular in a lot of different countries.
Oops yes awful mistake there !!!
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:13 PM   #44
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Thank you for your time to post such a thorough review - you answered many questions I had about that ship! Our group demographics is very similar to yours and while we don't use the kids clubs everyday, I would really not like to not be contacted if my child needed me.

I really feel quality lessens when things ( in this case, a cruise ship) get bigger. It's just so hard for management to really have a grip on all those employees, and they are often the difference in one's cruise experience. You can have all the amenities you want, but poor service, whiny stateroom hosts, lack of communication with excursion companies all speak loudly about the company and their priorities. Not saying you couldn't have all these things on any cruise line, but all of them together on yours, I imagine will not have you clamoring to get back on the ship.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:03 PM   #45
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Thanks for the great review. DH and I have only cruised Disney, but want to try something else - just don't know what. We've been with and without grandchildren and had fun experiences both ways. We may be considered "boring" as we like good, clean fun, though we like the night life on DCL. Thus far we have eliminated more cruiselines than added.
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