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Old 04-09-2013, 09:31 PM   #1636
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The stargazing conversation had me looking at the globe wondering what we'd be able to see where. For the first time, I noticed how short of a distance it is between Cartagena and the Panama Canal and it made me curious about the way our schedule is constructed.

It is roughly the same distance in terms of nautical miles from Cartagena to the Panama Canal as it is to go from Puerto Vallarta to Cabo. We sail from PV --> Cabo overnight, yet we have 2 nights and a full sea day between Cartagena and the Panama Canal.

Do we sail in circles to get from Cartagena to the canal? Just go really slow? Or will there be a period of several hours in the evening where we are basically sitting still waiting our turn to start the passage through the canal on the morning of the 12th?

I do a lot of timeline management for work, so it just has me curious.
I would say that we would be going slow. We will be at a holding area around midnight the day before our transit. DCL books, and pays a premium, a specific date and time to transit. I guess it's just one of those things. So it will be a slow lazy day at sea for our last day in the Caribbean.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:54 PM   #1637
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On past Panama Canal cruises I have been on, they did so stargazing. It was conducted by the navigation officer. He did it because DCL requires that officer to know how to navigate by the stars. He did come armed with a iPad with a really cool app that I should get and some really strong binoculars. Has he said it, only constellations that are in the northern hemisphere are seen north of the equator and the same for the southern ones. So I guess that means since we will not be crossing the equator, we won't be able to see those southern constellations.
According to ABC Science (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...17/2929420.htm),

..."A lot of people think you can't see the Southern Cross in the Northern Hemisphere, but that's not actually true," says Watson.

If you're north of the equator but south of a latitude of about 25 degrees, which is around say Hawaii and parts of northern Africa, you can still see the Southern Cross.

"But unlike us in the Southern Hemisphere, you won't see it all year round."

"If you were in Hawaii and looking south in May/June, you would see the cross, standing upright and pointing towards the South Pole," says Watson.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:00 PM   #1638
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According to ABC Science (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...17/2929420.htm),

..."A lot of people think you can't see the Southern Cross in the Northern Hemisphere, but that's not actually true," says Watson.

If you're north of the equator but south of a latitude of about 25 degrees, which is around say Hawaii and parts of northern Africa, you can still see the Southern Cross.

"But unlike us in the Southern Hemisphere, you won't see it all year round."

"If you were in Hawaii and looking south in May/June, you would see the cross, standing upright and pointing towards the South Pole," says Watson.
I don't know. I just am a armature start gazer. My cousin got me into it. The Nav officer I guess was wrong. All good to me. I just like looking into the depth of our universe.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:34 AM   #1639
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On past Panama Canal cruises I have been on, they did so stargazing. It was conducted by the navigation officer. He did it because DCL requires that officer to know how to navigate by the stars. He did come armed with a iPad with a really cool app that I should get and some really strong binoculars. Has he said it, only constellations that are in the northern hemisphere are seen north of the equator and the same for the southern ones. So I guess that means since we will not be crossing the equator, we won't be able to see those southern constellations.
The app I use is called Night Sky.....
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:36 AM   #1640
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According to ABC Science (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...17/2929420.htm),

..."A lot of people think you can't see the Southern Cross in the Northern Hemisphere, but that's not actually true," says Watson.

If you're north of the equator but south of a latitude of about 25 degrees, which is around say Hawaii and parts of northern Africa, you can still see the Southern Cross.

"But unlike us in the Southern Hemisphere, you won't see it all year round."

"If you were in Hawaii and looking south in May/June, you would see the cross, standing upright and pointing towards the South Pole," says Watson.
That s what I've been told... We will see it and can navigate by it.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:07 AM   #1641
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That s what I've been told... We will see it and can navigate by it.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:24 AM   #1642
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Our last two PC cruises we stopped in Aruba which is further away from the canal than Cartagena. We went at top speed to get to outside the canal where we stayed for the night. I think like Alan that it will be slow this time. The last times we also took on fuel very early morning. It is amazing to see all the ships anchored just waiting for their turn. Some wait days for a slot. It is quite eerie actually seeing them all there.

DCL and other no doubt other cruise lines pay top money to transit at the best time so you will probably find we are moving very slowly when you wake up. It seems to take ages to get from when we anchor for the night to the first lock, a few hours. Plenty of time to get up and find a spot if you want. Drinks and pastries served on deck from the early hours.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:51 AM   #1643
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I am a Dooney Girl I have 10 of their non-Disney bags and can say nothing but good thing about of the non-Disney bags.The Cruise line bags are not of the same quality. I purchased the Fantasy satchel in October 2012 while on the Fantasy and in late Jan. 2013 the lining around the zippered pocket was ripped and frayed. I did not abuse the bag-I carry it every day from the time I purchased it. I sent the bag to Dooney expecting it to be replaced and was offered a credit of $117.50 to apply towards the full retail price of one replacement item valued at $235.00 or greater. Also $7.50 for shipping and taxes were to be paid by me. I declined the offer and the bag was repaired and returned to be. I am very unhappy with the repair job and will bringing the bag with me on this cruise to return it back to Disney Cruise Line. I would recommend a non-Disney bag in a split second. The cruise line collection has been nothing but a HUGE disappointment to me. I also purchased the Disney Parks Retro satchel in Nov. and I am hold my breathe as to how it will hold up.
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Okay, so I am debating getting a Dooney & Bourke satchel onboard. I have a wristlet from 2011 and it's held up very well, but I am more than a little wary because of the reports of bags coming apart that I keep seeing pop up every once in a while, especially when the response from D&B is anything less than a free replacement or repair.

So are they REALLY worth the money? I have never had a dependable, use every-single-day purse or bag that was an investment at this level. It would be a considerable chunk of my personal savings (especially after this cruise, LOL) and I know so many people who buy expensive things just for the brand with no regard for quality. DH and I are willing to invest $$$ in stuff that is well made and will last for a long time; I just don't know if D&B qualifies.

What has been your experience?
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There is something I am having trouble wrapping my head around. Previous Champagne Girl groups have charged a fee collected in advance and included things like champagne, feather boas, etc. They have also reserved space via DCL prior to the cruise for their group alone.

I think I am missing something here - what is the point of "signing up" folks to meet in a space open to all cruise passengers, and if all are going to the bar (like other cruise passengers) in this public space?

Whether or not the Promenade has activities going on at the same time, it is a public area, not reserved by any one group. So theoretically can't anyone stop in and buy a drink during your meet?

. . .
Grumpy Grandma here. The thing you all need to remember is that the promenade lounge is in heavy use all day everyday after embarkation day, beginning fairly early in the morning with the cruise director's daily show. Among the activities held there are toddler dance parties, trivia, name that tune, crafts, dancing lessons, music and dancing, scavenger hunts begin and end there etc.

On the December PC, we had to move our "yankee swap gift exchange" from the Promenade to Preludes, in front of the walt theatre. Talk about uncomfortable!

I think your VOLUNTEER hostess on this event was very well intentioned and following a protocol often used in the past. It's unfortunate that her efforts were so misunderstood and criticized.

On a personal level, house selling is not going well at all. House buying is an adventure. But the weather and pleasures of family, outweigh all the headaches.

Happy Day, all!
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HA HA HA! Wow. Can you tell I'm tired and it's been a long day, or what? That's one of my better oopsies. So glad you corrected me! But now I have quite the mental image of someone in a turban out on deck providing us all with our star charts and predictions of our future. (Which might be better suited to Pirate Night, actually.)
Star charts & palm readings would be a great addition to Pirate Night - anyone know how to read a tarot deck?


Thanks for the confirmation on the Southern Cross - the bit of web research I'd done indicated it could be seen from Key West during certain parts of the year, so I assumed we'd be able to see it as well. We'll be at about 10 degrees north latitude between Cartegena and the Panama Canal - well south of the 25 degrees that BoosGram's link mentioned.
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I don't know if any of you have read the Kingdom Keepers books by Ridley Pearson. They are aimed at young teens but are a great read for Disney lovers.
Thanks for the suggestion. We just downloaded the first of the series for our children. We probably will get "Dark Passage" for the cruise. I wasn't sure if we had to read the first to understand the rest!
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UPDATE ON THE MIXOLOGY CLASS!
Disney emailed me back! Since we have 56 people signed up we will have TWO classes. The 1st group will be on 05/15 at 2:00 pm in Diversions and the 2nd group will be on 05/16 at 2:00 pm in Diversions. The maximum capacity for each group is 40! The price now be $15.00 per adult. As long as we only have 40 people per group and there are open spots you may choose to attend both! Please let me know ASAP who wants to attend which date! I'll be posting this on the Facebook and sending out an email to those who already have signed up.
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UPDATE ON THE MIXOLOGY CLASS!
Disney emailed me back! Since we have 56 people signed up we will have TWO classes. The 1st group will be on 05/15 at 2:00 pm in Diversions and the 2nd group will be on 05/16 at 2:00 pm in Diversions. The maximum capacity for each group is 40! The price now be $15.00 per adult. As long as we only have 40 people per group and there are open spots you may choose to attend both! Please let me know ASAP who wants to attend which date! I'll be posting this on the Facebook and sending out an email to those who already have signed up.
Sent you an email. The 15 th for us, please. Thanks
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UPDATE ON THE MIXOLOGY CLASS!
Disney emailed me back! Since we have 56 people signed up we will have TWO classes. The 1st group will be on 05/15 at 2:00 pm in Diversions and the 2nd group will be on 05/16 at 2:00 pm in Diversions. The maximum capacity for each group is 40! The price now be $15.00 per adult. As long as we only have 40 people per group and there are open spots you may choose to attend both! Please let me know ASAP who wants to attend which date! I'll be posting this on the Facebook and sending out an email to those who already have signed up.
Please sign Scott and me (Tracey) up for the 5/16 2 pm class - many thanks!
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15th for Angel & Robin please. Cabin 6590 / thank you for doing this

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UPDATE ON THE MIXOLOGY CLASS!
Disney emailed me back! Since we have 56 people signed up we will have TWO classes. The 1st group will be on 05/15 at 2:00 pm in Diversions and the 2nd group will be on 05/16 at 2:00 pm in Diversions. The maximum capacity for each group is 40! The price now be $15.00 per adult. As long as we only have 40 people per group and there are open spots you may choose to attend both! Please let me know ASAP who wants to attend which date! I'll be posting this on the Facebook and sending out an email to those who already have signed up.
15th & 16th for us, please, I've never been to one! I don't have Facebook, but will send a PM. Thanks for organising this, I realise it's challenging with a group this large
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