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Old 03-09-2013, 06:30 PM   #1576
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It was his grandfather's island. Here's the article.

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Fascinating story !!I bet his Grandfather made a few $$$$$ selling it to Disney!!!
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:59 PM   #1577
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Fascinating story !!I bet his Grandfather made a few $$$$$ selling it to Disney!!!
actually if you read the story he didn't sell it to Disney. Even now Disney doesn't actually own it, it's owned by a dummy company they set up in the Bahamas.
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so happy to have you here! I see you started a TR yourself

We've still got several days left in the trip, it was wonderful, absolutely wonderful!
I still remember your first TR (I think it was your first) about your stay at Fort Wilderness. I've thought about that many times as we've planned this trip.
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actually if you read the story he didn't sell it to Disney. Even now Disney doesn't actually own it, it's owned by a dummy company they set up in the Bahamas.


I must have missed that part!!! So who set up the dummy company, the grandfather or Disney???
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Fascinating story !!I bet his Grandfather made a few $$$$$ selling it to Disney!!!
Well the original sale wasn't to Disney, it was to a dummy company for Frank Barber. Disney acquired it after that. Alvin Tucker, the grandfather, sold it to Frank Barber under his dummy corporation. It's pretty murky how Disney got it from Barber as supposedly he was dead partway into his incarceration, I've not been able to find details on how Disney actually bought it or under what name.

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actually if you read the story he didn't sell it to Disney. Even now Disney doesn't actually own it, it's owned by a dummy company they set up in the Bahamas.
Actually Disney now owns it in full. At least according to all the public sites I could find. Whether they initially acquired it under a dummy corp as they did with WDW land I can't find specifics on.

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I still remember your first TR (I think it was your first) about your stay at Fort Wilderness. I've thought about that many times as we've planned this trip.
As you know, we loved FW and the cabins! if there are any questions you have about them, ask away.

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I must have missed that part!!! So who set up the dummy company, the grandfather or Disney???
Neither lol. Grandfather sold it to a dummy company that was really Frank Barbers, Disney got it from Barber, or more likely from the Bahamian government if they seized control after Barber was taken down. I imagine all the details of that are hard to find for a reason along those lines.
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THIS JUST IN!!! Customize Upload Options (SIZE) was back on PB for me this morning!!!
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Just popping in to make sure I haven't missed an update. Hope you have a great weekend, Cynthia.
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Conchs, Konk's and Cocktails

Sorry for the delay! Real life is well, real life! We've been busy around here. Jeff and I ran away a couple of weekends ago for a night to celebrate our birthdays and Valentine’s day as is our tradition and had a lovely time in our own town with an amazing dinner, a show at a local jazz favorite and a night at a downtown hotel. Of course it was jam packed on either end with getting kids off to snow caves camping, overnights and opening night of the Sounders with grandparents and then soccer games and a lot of math homework all around. Which meant....no update! Then this weekend we had one college visit/ID camp for K (Vanderbilt), middle school registration for Eric and high school registration for Evan plus some other school events. The latter was mildly stressful, that thing read like a college catalog and was paired with an open house that was of no use whatsoever. Hopefully we've made the right choices for all. Thankfully this weekend should have some real downtime, or at least one can hope. K has a tournament but it’s in Vegas so we will not be going and right now the E's schedules look relatively light.

I am hideously behind on everyone's threads, my apologies in advance. I will get caught up, I will! Someday.

I have to admit, in the light of what happened at POP this weekend I am a bit freaked out now about leaving the E's unattended even though I know they have good swimming skills and there were multiple lifeguards there while we ditched them in search of Serenity. I digress but my heart hurts for the family for those who don't know, a 13 year old boy died after almost drowning in the Hippy Dippy Pool. The family was right there and honestly, at 13 with good swimming skills, we are not always "right" there. We are nearby but in the pool or physically next to where they are? No, not always. As I read about the incident, and thought of our trip to Serenity Bay it just gave me pause. Heck, as I think about our trip, or life, in general. Several times the boys were swimming without us. Never alone, usually with a lifeguard present but at what age, what skill is it ok? Is it? I know my parents weren't with me at that age. As long as I could pass the swim test to swim out to the platform at the lake we went to, that was good enough. I do not expect the lifeguards to babysit and heaven knows the boys swim at their own risk in our lake all summer long. Often we are there, but not out on the dock watching every move and at 13 the club allows them to be there without a parent. No lifeguard… and Evan spends most of his days down there with his friends jumping in and out of the lake. Last summer, at 13, was the first summer we let him go on his own without us, per club rules. I admit, I’ am glad Eric won't technically be old enough until after summer is over this year as I certainly don’t trust Evan to keep an eye on him if he has friends there. Last summer, before the trip, Eric was on an aggressive lesson schedule so we could get him to a point where he could go into the ocean and even consider trying to snorkel but still, lessons aside, visuals aside, beyond the swim test at the Y

So how can you really know how far to let them go? At their ages I thought we did but with this happening it really makes me wonder if there is more to the story or not. The news said he was jumping in and out. CNN had a great article on teens and swimming and going beyond limits with peers as well as a scary bit of information about something called "shallow water blackout" that I’m going to share with the E’s. Hard. I can’t even imagine.

At any rate I've truly meant to get this update up for what feels like a week and between life and a high maintenance cat I've not had my normal "free" writing time. I do want this done before we go to Aulani so need to get cracking. This is a bit shorter than I wanted but if I wait to get the rest of the night in it, it might not happen today!

With that, let's go back to Castaway Cay! When I left off we’d been robbed, robbed I tell you of a drink at Serenity Bay. We'd left, and headed back to find the kids. Done with snorkeling (we could tell by the gear at the loungers) we easily spotted them and gave them the one last slide warning. Which let me get set up for a photo attempt.







Where they'd go?



Don't get salt water up your nose Eric!





Did I miss Evan?



Yep



No clue what this picture was about



The sad walk up



Okay...





Really, I have NO idea what they were doing here other than I distinctly recall they thought it was hilarious and I thought it was hideous, which of course made them keep doing it. We did do a quick slide ranking at this point and on the Evan slideometer Pelican Plunge, the fast side (you can see in the pics they were on different slides) gets a 10!

We had bribed them to get out with promises of a smoothie and more shopping. I really wanted to try that darn Konk Kooler and we were cutting it close. We packed up, Kendall had found us while we were getting the E’s out of the water and headed over here



Carp. No smoothies on the menu





One of them they were able to make without rum but it was not what the E’s had in mind so the 3 of us ordered.

And here it is, the infamous Konk Kooler!



from Alears (I need to check this against evan's Disney cookbook as it's in there too)

3 oz. Light Rum (Suggestion - Malibu or Parrot Bay)
3 oz. Dark Rum (Suggestion - Cruzan Black Strap)
4 oz. Orange Juice
8 oz. Cream of Coconut (Suggestion - Coco Casa)
6 oz. Passion Fruit Juice Concentrate (Suggestion - Welches)
3 oz. Ice

I LOVED it! I was worried it would be too sweet and it wasn't. Just lovely tropical coconutty deliciousness. Honestly, had I not been robbed at Castaway Air, this might have been my 2nd.

While the drinks were being made I let Jeff get them and settle up. As you can see, while we were trying to get Conched Out…the whole Island was almost out. They were literally boarding up the bar while making our drinks.



What it "normally" looks like



Mission (for 3 anyway) accomplished!



I'd sent the boys ahead to shop



Where honestly there was nothing of interest. Evan was bummed, he’d been convinced he would find a necklace but there just wasn't a thing anyone wanted. I think they are missing the mark on merch here, Big time. Most of it was either too cute (very little kid Disney) or too generic.

I was not leaving without the mandatory pic



They look miserable huh


Who is your favorite character?



I could not get Kendall and Jeff in the picture, oh well. With that, it was time to head back to the ship.

Continued in next post

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Continued from previous

And look, we are the last ones off the island (shocker I know)



And onto the tram



For some reason I thought that was funny at the time

There she is



No one walking back apparently



Hey look someone else is still here!



Too late to get on the tram going the other way…unless you are a towel



Sadly, we got off the tram and with the rest of the stragglers, I mean the rest of the folks who maximized every minute they could on the Island, we headed in.



Up next. Where are the kids?

Sorry this one is short guys, the rest of the evening involves well, more than one story, so I need a little writing time. It was an interesting evening.



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As I was reading your post about the boy who died after the drowning, I was thinking of all those times we snuck off and went swimming in the pond behind our house and of those times when I let my kids swim waaaaaay out in the lake when we were camping. It's scary to think what could have happened.

Moving on to happier thoughts. Ya'll really did milk every single minute out of Castaway Cay! I can't say that I blame you as it's such a beautiful place.
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Reading about that 13 year old boy certainly was certainly tragic. I remember, a few years back, reading about a 14 year old who died at Typhoon Lagoon. She didn't drown, but she literally cardiac arrested for some unknown reason. I was always on high alert when my kids were in that wave pool. I could never relax.

So, how WAS the Konch Kooler? (did I spell that right? ) I didn't here any rave reviews. Do tell. I have to have at least one "signature" drink while lounging around on the island.

I love that your gang closed down the island. That's awesome. Just goes to show what a great day you had!
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I am taking a break from school work to treat myself to some DIS time. I can't see the pictures here, but I sure will look forward to seeing them tonight! For some reason I can see one of them - the Conched Out Bar (what it normally looks like), and I see palm trees, which makes me happy.
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Cynthia, playing catch up myself, but just wanted to say that I love all those photos of an empty CC!
Glad you got your drinks in the end ...... and sorry to hear about the shopping.
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You didn't although I was probably uploading it as you typed this! Hope you have a great weekend too

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We did milk it that's for sure! And I'd do it that way again for sure.

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Reading about that 13 year old boy certainly was certainly tragic. I remember, a few years back, reading about a 14 year old who died at Typhoon Lagoon. She didn't drown, but she literally cardiac arrested for some unknown reason. I was always on high alert when my kids were in that wave pool. I could never relax.
I'm on high alert in the wave pool, they are not allowed in it without me and/or Jeff but even then we do get split up, it's hard not to.

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So, how WAS the Konch Kooler? (did I spell that right? ) I didn't here any rave reviews. Do tell. I have to have at least one "signature" drink while lounging around on the island.
Konk and it was fabulous! So fabulous that maybe that should be our drink for F&G. I checked the all ears recipe against the Disney cookbook and while similar ingredients, they are NOT remotely the same proportionately. Check it out

Allears (this is making a batch versus single)

3 oz. Light Rum (Suggestion - Malibu or Parrot Bay)
3 oz. Dark Rum (Suggestion - Cruzan Black Strap)
4 oz. Orange Juice
8 oz. Cream of Coconut (Suggestion - Coco Casa)
6 oz. Passion Fruit Juice Concentrate (Suggestion - Welches)
3 oz. Ice

Mix in blender until slushy.

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1/4 oz. Light Rum
3/4 oz. Dark Rum
1 oz. Orange Juice
1 oz. Pina Colada Mix
1 oz. Passion Fruit Juice

Shake and serve in a tall glass with crushed ice.

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I love that your gang closed down the island. That's awesome. Just goes to show what a great day you had!
We did shut it down, I'd do it again too!

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I am taking a break from school work to treat myself to some DIS time. I can't see the pictures here, but I sure will look forward to seeing them tonight! For some reason I can see one of them - the Conched Out Bar (what it normally looks like), and I see palm trees, which makes me happy.
Oh how funny, the one public domain picture I hijacked you can see but not any of mine. Hopefully you can see them now. Palm trees would make me very happy today too.

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Cynthia, playing catch up myself, but just wanted to say that I love all those photos of an empty CC!
Glad you got your drinks in the end ...... and sorry to hear about the shopping.
Oh it's ok on the shopping, I just think they are missing some sales is all. Believe me, we found plenty to buy over the course of the trip
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