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Old 03-01-2013, 04:20 PM   #16
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Let me give it to you straight:

You may as well stay off site if you are going to stay at Saratoga springs. Wyndham Bonnet Creek is superior in every way. It's closer to the Disney theme parks. It has massive 850 square foot impeccably clean and beautifully decorated rooms with large balconies, full kitchen, laundry, and a jaccuzzi tub for $90 or less per night. It also offers beautiful high rise views of Disney property, themed pools, miniature golf, a lazy river, and is adjacent to the waldorf and hilton as well as the wyndham grand hotel which offer great food, spas, and ambiance. Transportation to/from all parks is included.

So why would you pay 3-5 times as much to stay at saratoga springs? To get ripped off by the Disney Dining Plan that forces you to eat until you want to puke to get your money's worth? To get magical express service and be stuck with Disney transportation instead of renting a car for $10 a day?

I adore everything about Disney but Saratoga Springs is the worst Disney has to offer- a cheap way to build a large resort to cash in from the massively overpriced Disney Vacation Club.

Old Key West has much more charm and appeal as well as significantly larger rooms for the same price. If staying at a Disney Hotel is your only option- stay there. Otherwise if you're going to pay Disney prices stay somewhere special. I'd rather stay at the art of animation or heck POP Century so I at least feel like I'm paying Disney prices for a Disney experience.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:25 PM   #17
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There is a difference in not liking a theme and saying there is no theme. Many label SSR as not having a theme when in fact I think they simply don't recognize it. The theme of Saratoga Springs, NY is spot on.

Is it boring, absolutely not. There is plenty to do. Beautiful pools, actually more than many DVC resorts. Great location, central to all things at WDW. A spa, not sure when you are going but they are doing a rehab at the Spa right now, so it might not be open.

One of the best counter service restaurants on the property. Daily activities at the Community Hall for kids, golf, tennis courts, bikes to rent, movies at the pool.

Walking distance to Downtown Disney. In fact there is more to do at SSR than AKL.

Both are great resorts, just very different. However if you are the type that prefers lobby hotels with interior hallways, then yes SSR probably won't appeal to you.

I do think 3 adults and a child in any studio will be disappointing. Simply two crowded for my comfort level.

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Old 03-01-2013, 04:37 PM   #18
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There is a difference in not liking a theme and saying there is no theme. Many label SSR as not having a theme when in fact I think they simply don't recognize it. The theme of Saratoga Springs, NY is spot on.

Is it boring, absolutely not. There is plenty to do. Beautiful pools, actually more than many DVC resorts. Great location, central to all things at WDW. A spa, not sure when you are going but they are doing a rehab at the Spa right now, so it might not be open.

One of the best counter service restaurants on the property. Daily activities at the Community Hall for kids, golf, tennis courts, bikes to rent.

Walking distance to Downtown Disney. In fact there is much more to do at SSR than AKL.

Both are great resorts, just very different.
1. It just so happens that every hampton inn, drury inn, ramada inn, strip mall, and american neighborhood built in the last 20 years also nails that "saratoga springs" theme. As in, it's not so much of a theme as it suburban architecture. "Suburbanite Springs." Seriously every new apartment complex I see reminds me of saratoga springs.

2. There is so much to do at saratoga springs. First of all you can go to the pool. Did I mention there are pools? Pools. Oh and you can eat at a restaurant. That really sets it head and shoulders above just about every resort on the planet I must say.

3. There's a spa. Forget that it's usually ranked as the most overpriced spa with the poorest service in the disney area. There is hope for the refurb though.

4. Great location. Well, yeah it's the closest Disney resort to the airport and the resort that is farther from the theme parks than all of the other resorts. It's close to Downtown Disney, because you need another place to buy the same merchandise you see at every single park every single day of your vacation.

5. Golf, tennis courts, and bikes. We've got this stuff in our neighborhood at home too. People go to Disney to sit on the beach and watch fireworks and get transported out of suburban boredom.

I think it's time people stop making excuses for Saratoga Springs. If it was $99 a night it'd be just fine. It's more like $400 a night. And it's a darn shame!
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1. It just so happens that every hampton inn, drury inn, ramada inn, strip mall, and american neighborhood built in the last 20 years also nails that "saratoga springs" theme. As in, it's not so much of a theme as it suburban architecture. "Suburbanite Springs." Seriously every new apartment complex I see reminds me of saratoga springs.

2. There is so much to do at saratoga springs. First of all you can go to the pool. Did I mention there are pools? Pools. Oh and you can eat at a restaurant. That really sets it head and shoulders above just about every resort on the planet I must say.

3. There's a spa. Forget that it's usually ranked as the most overpriced spa with the poorest service in the disney area. There is hope for the refurb though.

4. Great location. Well, yeah it's the closest Disney resort to the airport and the resort that is farther from the theme parks than all of the other resorts. It's close to Downtown Disney, because you need another place to buy the same merchandise you see at every single park every single day of your vacation.

5. Golf, tennis courts, and bikes. We've got this stuff in our neighborhood at home too. People go to Disney to sit on the beach and watch fireworks and get transported out of suburban boredom.

I think it's time people stop making excuses for Saratoga Springs. If it was $99 a night it'd be just fine. It's more like $400 a night. And it's a darn shame!
You know it is fine you don't like it. It is also fine others do.

Have you ever been to Saratoga Springs, NY, if not do some research, Disney did.

As to location, SSR and OKW are the most centrally located resorts to all Disney parks, fact. You can research that too. So no you are wrong in that it is the furthest resort from all parks.

We have DVC so no we are not paying $400 a night. I don't feel any Disney resort is worth that.

Golf, tennis courts and bikes, many do not have that at home so for them it is a fun activity.
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You know it is fine you don't like it. It is also fine others do.

Have you ever been to Saratoga Springs, NY, if not do some research, Disney did.

As to location, SSR and OKW are the most centrally located resorts to all Disney parks, fact. You can research that too. So no you are wrong in that it is the furthest resort from all parks.

We have DVC so no we are not paying $400 a night. I don't feel any Disney resort is worth that.

Golf, tennis courts and bikes, many do not have that at home so for them it is a fun activity.
Of course it's fine, everyone can like best whatever they want and that's wonderful. I just don't want people to get the wrong idea about saratoga springs that it's incredibly unique or special in the same way other Disney Resorts can be.

I'd dispute the central location. The swan and dolphin, boardwalk inn, beach club, yacht club, and carribean beach are all more centrally located. The boardwalk inn allows you to walk to epcot and hollywood studios, and is closer to the magic kingdom and animal kingdom than saratoga springs is. Saratoga Springs and Old Key West are praised for different reasons, but location is not one of them.
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This map should help you understand location. Note the location of the epcot resorts on crescent lake and their central location in relation to all the theme parks.

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Old 03-01-2013, 05:33 PM   #22
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Thanks for the map but we have been over 40 times, I know where everything is located. We will just have to agree to disagree over the rest.

Here are the facts on the distances from the parks to the resorts from the site here.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/resor...-distances.htm

I did not say that SSR was closest to a park, I said it was closer to all 4 parks than other resorts. It is closer to MK by a mile over BC, YC and CBR. It is only a mile to Epcot from SSR and closer to all parks than AK, compared to AKL which was the info the OP was looking for.

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Old 03-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #23
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I did not say that SSR was closest to a park, I said it was closer to all 4 parks than other resorts. It is closer to MK by a mile over BC, YC and CBR. It is only a mile to Epcot from SSR and closer to all parks than AK, compared to AKL which was the info the OP was looking for.
Those distances don't look quite right to me, either that or they are using some funky calculation? It says the Beach Club is 3 miles from Epcot, but it's a very short walk. Are these distances if you take a car and drive around to the front entrances?
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Those distances don't look quite right to me, either that or they are using some funky calculation? It says the Beach Club is 3 miles from Epcot, but it's a very short walk. Are these distances if you take a car and drive around to the front entrances?
yes it is driving distances.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:58 AM   #25
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1. It just so happens that every hampton inn, drury inn, ramada inn, strip mall, and american neighborhood built in the last 20 years also nails that "saratoga springs" theme. As in, it's not so much of a theme as it suburban architecture. "Suburbanite Springs." Seriously every new apartment complex I see reminds me of saratoga springs.

2. There is so much to do at saratoga springs. First of all you can go to the pool. Did I mention there are pools? Pools. Oh and you can eat at a restaurant. That really sets it head and shoulders above just about every resort on the planet I must say.

3. There's a spa. Forget that it's usually ranked as the most overpriced spa with the poorest service in the disney area. There is hope for the refurb though.

4. Great location. Well, yeah it's the closest Disney resort to the airport and the resort that is farther from the theme parks than all of the other resorts. It's close to Downtown Disney, because you need another place to buy the same merchandise you see at every single park every single day of your vacation.

5. Golf, tennis courts, and bikes. We've got this stuff in our neighborhood at home too. People go to Disney to sit on the beach and watch fireworks and get transported out of suburban boredom.

I think it's time people stop making excuses for Saratoga Springs. If it was $99 a night it'd be just fine. It's more like $400 a night. And it's a darn shame!
Have you actually stayed at SSR? You seem to loathe it with a vengeance. FTR, I have never seen a Hampton Inn, Drury Inn, etc that looks anything like SSR. That is a terrible comparison.

The spa actually receives very good reviews, and seems to be reasonably priced, so that comparison isn't very good either. AKL doesn't even have a spa.

It is a few minutes walk to Downtown Disney, with so many activities. Cirque du Soleil, balloon flights, cinema, boating, more restaurants than AKL and AK added up, and much more.

Everyone has a right to an opinion but its generally better to have one when you are actually well informed on what you have an opinion of. SSR and AKL both cater to different people. I feel immersed in Disney magic at SSR. However it isn't overwhelming in theming and we like that. The theme is there though and very authentic.

AKL is more in your face theming and exciting, but some people do prefer to stay somewhere less in your face. Sure, it may have more dining options, however when you factor in Downtown Disney SSR has much more.

I would recommend, OP, that you stay at AKL for your trip. You love it there, and the theming at SSR may disappoint you. If you stayed at SSR you may spend the whole time wishing you were at AKL, and spending a little more would be worth getting the vacation you love.

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For what it's worth, we belong to DVC and own at SSR. I am embarrassed to say that we haven't stayed at SSR since 2006, and haven't used our points there since 2005

We routinely changed our reservations to Beach Club villas, because it was walking distance to Epcot, and then when AKL villas became available, we bought points there, and generally have stayed there once a year ever since.

From my standpoint, SSR was spread out. If you stayed in a studio, the laundry is near the main pool. It is a beautiful, spacious, airy laundry, but, it is a long hike in hot weather to bring clothes there. If we stay for a week, we usually only bring enough clothes so that we plan on doing laundry half way through. Likewise, the buses take a long time to get through the resort to go to the park, because there are several stops. And, because there are several stops, they sometimes are full by the time they get to yours.

On the other hand, the highlight of my day when I stay at AKL villas (either Kidani or Jambo) is to sit on the balcony having my breakfast and watching the animals outside the room. The bus service one resort compared to the other is a wash, in my opinion. The buses stop at Kidani first, then Jambo. The laundry, if I stay in a studio, is inside the building, and I can watch animals while I wait for the clothes to be done.

I have a reservation for next December for SSR, that I am actually planning to change to either Bay Lake towers, Beach club villas, or Akl at the 7 mo window. It's not that I don't like SSR. It's that I like the other resorts better.

In case you are wondering, why did I buy points at SSR if I didn't plan on staying there? Simple. At the time we bought, it was the only resort available. We had stayed at OKW, and totally loved the idea of DVC. Our son was about 4 at the time, and we knew we would want to be coming back.

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I'm considering switching our reservations from AKL savanna view to a studio at SSR . . . Will we be disappointed?

1) I think so.
2) There is little "Disney" at Disney's SSR.
3) Plus, the buildings are like rows of Holiday Inns.
4) VERY LITTLE CHARACTER.

NOTE: Having worked there for quite some time, I think it is the
most boring of ANY Disney resort, DVC or not.
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1) I think so.
2) There is little "Disney" at Disney's SSR.
3) Plus, the buildings are like rows of Holiday Inns.
4) VERY LITTLE CHARACTER.

NOTE: Having worked there for quite some time, I think it is the
most boring of ANY Disney resort, DVC or not.
How can there be little of Disney when the bedding has scenes from Fox and the Hound and Disney horses?
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Thanks, all, so much for going through the pros and cons for me. I think we're going to go ahead and stick to AKL this time around and maybe check out SSR when it's just my husband and me. Distance doesn't mean anything to us, but theming does. We did tour SSR several years ago for DVC, but it was rather forgettable to me.

I'm not trying to discount those who love the resort. I know everyone has their favorites. Even my beloved AKL isn't everyone's cup of tea. I think I just needed to hear the different opinions so I could determine if it was worth the savings for us. I think if we want some bigger savings, I agree with the poster who suggested one of the values.
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