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Old 02-28-2013, 09:01 AM   #2026
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Bad Pins

I am a new pin trader/collector. I also just bought a lot from 423disneypinfreak
and I believe they are mostly all scrappers. They have rough edges, dimples in the paint or enamel, some I can see either scratches or paint brush stokes when I shift them in the light, some a very light weight, the colors are off on almost all of them, and 99.9 percent of them are very dull not shinny like the pins I purchased at Disney. I am sending them back. I am so thankful for this site because if I had not found it and pinpics I would have traded these pins at Disney this fall.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:47 PM   #2028
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And, the princess shoe pins are being sold as scrappers. I wound up with a set and in comparing them to my purchased from Disney set, it is obvious... borders on back that are not on the 3 booster packs I bought and horrible brush marks in the paint, so watch out for loose ones.
THIS^

I got the Snow White one in a lot I bought and it looked completely real until I noticed on one of the edges there's a splash of red paint where it was clearly painted over the edge from the design at the top of the shoe.

Not long after that I found a seller that puts up two to three auctions A DAY for the shoes individually. They sell every single one of those, too.

If it wasn't in such bad taste, I'd say it was a good way to make money :/


Oh, also, I got some pins in that I bought from yoruthewulf: pleased as punch. From what I can tell, they're real, and I mean I went over them with a fine tooth comb, I had some cast members at Downtown Disney look at them, I compared them to the real ones in the store... Absolutely thrilled.

On the other hand I got my purchase in from disneyatmidnight1
I figured they would be scrappers (I got the teacups) because she sells the same ones every single day and ALWAYS sells them, but I didn't expect them to be such BAD scrappers. They looked TERRIBLE. They were the factory seconds of the factory seconds. I mean they were just disgusting.

I'm not one to throw away scrapper pins, because I do love disney and I don't trade (and I keep my real pins separate from the scrappers anyways) but I had to throw these away. Absolutely terrible.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:23 PM   #2029
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Does anybody have any experience with this seller: thetreasurewithinfl

Didn't see them on the list and wanted to check with all of you smart people here!

Thanks!!
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:32 PM   #2030
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Update on my Dizneymandoug purchase. After promptly returning all my pins because so many were scrappers, they didn't refund my money. I contacted them a couple times with no response. After 5 days I opened a case. After 8 more days of no response I escalated the case, and eBay found in my favor and refunded me. I was out over $8.00 in return postage. I was concerned because the address they asked me to ship to was in a different state than their Paypal/eBay address.

They have had many cases opened against them in the last year. I thought there was a limit to how many you can have...

Prior to this I would have put them on green list for pins because I loved their stuff. Now I put them in red.
I hate to hear this about him. I've bought from him several times in the past, too and have always gotten new on card pins at great prices. He was always wiling to work with me to get to the number I wanted/needed and never charged extra shipping for them either. I just went to look at his stuff tonight and read his negative feedback (sounds like one of them was yours) and was disappointed that he's gone downhill....... which is why I came here to see if anyone had reported on him. Thanks for the info..... I'll have to look somewhere else now.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:16 AM   #2031
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:14 PM   #2033
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Does anybody have any experience with this seller: thetreasurewithinfl

Didn't see them on the list and wanted to check with all of you smart people here!

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This is a seller I looked at a while back when I was looking for the Princess shoe pins. I have not bought from them so this is just personal opinion, but the two photos they have up - 1 for the princess shoe pins, and the other for a lot of 25 pins - are the only auctions they seem to sell, over and over and over. They have sold more sets of the princess shoe pins than I can count, and they are not new on card, they just use a photo of them on card. You have to read the description. My guess is you will get scrappers since they have no variety, just the same two auctions repeatedly and simultaneously.

Thank you so much for the quick reply!!

I didn't end up purchasing from this seller. I did, however, buy a small lot (25 pins) from the following seller: ffc

I am not holding out much hope that they won't be scrappers, but the price was right so I figured it wasn't a big loss if I have to toss them all. I will report back and let you all know since I didn't see this seller on the current list. They did have 100% feedback (I know, I know that doesn't mean they're legit) But, nonetheless, I decided to throw a bit of caution to the wind. Fingers crossed!

On a side note...it is amazing how many pin lots there are on ebay. And, they all sell! Even the sellers on the red list seem to do a healthy business. Really makes you realize just HOW MANY scrappers there must be floating around Disney!
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:46 PM   #2034
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Thank you so much for the quick reply!!

I didn't end up purchasing from this seller. I did, however, buy a small lot (25 pins) from the following seller: ffc

I am not holding out much hope that they won't be scrappers, but the price was right so I figured it wasn't a big loss if I have to toss them all. I will report back and let you all know since I didn't see this seller on the current list. They did have 100% feedback (I know, I know that doesn't mean they're legit) But, nonetheless, I decided to throw a bit of caution to the wind. Fingers crossed!

On a side note...it is amazing how many pin lots there are on ebay. And, they all sell! Even the sellers on the red list seem to do a healthy business. Really makes you realize just HOW MANY scrappers there must be floating around Disney!

UUGGHHH!!! I just read back a number of pages on this thread and it seems that ffc is a suspected scrapper seller! Oh well, there goes my money.. Glad I didn't buy a bigger lot.

I will still post though when I get the pins to confirm with you all...

Live & learn.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:45 PM   #2035
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Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about seller thepinconnection came across him and the pins they have up look decent.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:17 AM   #2036
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Wish I would have found this thread a week ago!!!! My kids want to get into the whole pin trading world and I bought a lot of 50 pins from a seller on the red list- disney.crazy. They are due to arrive in the mail today. Guess I'll find out if I wasted my money or not.




UPDATE: Pins arrived. I know NOTHING about pins but even to me there are quite a few in there that look fake. At least my kids are excited. They sat at the kitchen table taking turns picking the ones they wanted. They don't know the difference but I'm certainly not going to take the ones that look fake to me with us to trade at the parks. We'll just keep them for the fun of it. I really wish I had done my research first.

I would love it if any of you wonderful pin experts spot obvious fake ones in these pics to let me know so I know to keep them home.







Definitely keep disney.crazy on the red list.





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Anything with a hidden Mickey on it has a chance of being a scrapper as they are the most copied.

Known scrappers picture 1 on left from top, 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 on right, 2, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11. This does not mean yours are scrappers, just that there are many scrappers of those out. Most obvious problem in those pins are brush strokes, but the character signatures are not made that way so feel for sharp edges and look for obvious discoloration to the metal. Some of those are from booster packs, so they may very well be safe.

Picture 2 from top left, 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 on right 2, 4, 6, 7, 12. Same info as above.

Picture 3 on left all 3 as already mentioned. Looks for the clues given. The ones with letters and a character whose name starts with that letter (like the C and P) are a huge scrapper problem. They come on 2 different sizes and have brush strokes in them. I don't remember which set is the correct one, larger or smaller. I have a mix of both in my personal collection.
WOW! Thanks so much!!! Now that I know what to look for I can definitely tell the difference. About half of the pins have rough edges, brush strokes or they just have that "cheap" feel to them.

I thought the pins on ebay were from cast members that trade. I had no idea there was such a fraudulent black market for pins.

Oh well at least my kids like them.
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