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Old 02-13-2013, 05:12 PM   #31
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As of 0800 this morning the Truimph is underway and heading to Mobile. Speed 4 to 9 mile per hour, not knots. No new ETA. still just *thursday*

Seems reports are that she was not closer to Mobile then Progresso when going under tow. ABC report she was 200 NM closer to Progresso then Mobile. I have not found a tracking site with her true position, her tranponder maybe off. If anyone find it please post it.

Please remember the reasons given, for going to mobile, if correct were reasonable, the ocean currents and wind were very much in favor of going to Mobile.
First a question- you mentioned htey are at a speed of 4 to 9 miles per hour - not knots.

Could you explain how they are related? Like a conversion x miles = y knots

Then a thought-
Whatever the reason they are going to Mobile- it may turn out to be a huge blessing for those involved. Landing on a US port makes the logistics so much easier.

Closer to the original port
Busing to the airport
language spoken
Number of airports available for getting people home
Close to a big city for those that wait for flights

Most importantly- passports that might have been needed for flying back to the US.
Not trying to start an argument on what is or is not needed, just commenting that one thing that would have needed to be accomplished just got taken off the list.

Sorry for what they are going through
Glad that Mobile is waiting with open arms to help them
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:58 PM   #32
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First a question- you mentioned htey are at a speed of 4 to 9 miles per hour - not knots.

Could you explain how they are related? Like a conversion x miles = y knots

Then a thought-
Whatever the reason they are going to Mobile- it may turn out to be a huge blessing for those involved. Landing on a US port makes the logistics so much easier.

Closer to the original port
Busing to the airport
language spoken
Number of airports available for getting people home
Close to a big city for those that wait for flights

Most importantly- passports that might have been needed for flying back to the US.
Not trying to start an argument on what is or is not needed, just commenting that one thing that would have needed to be accomplished just got taken off the list.

Sorry for what they are going through
Glad that Mobile is waiting with open arms to help them
A land mile is 5,280 feet long and mph is based on that figure, so if your going 15 mph you cover 60 land miles.

A nautical mile is 6,022 feet long and knots per is based on that figure, so if you moving at 15 knots you cover 15 nautical miles.

Basicly a nautical mile = 1.14 land miles. Not a big difference.


I totally agree, Mobile is the perfect port for this. I am sure that handy shipyard there has been talking to Carnival.

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I wonder if they can get in and out of their cabins? Do they need electricty for their Key Cards to work?
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:27 PM   #34
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I wonder if they can get in and out of their cabins? Do they need electricty for their Key Cards to work?
Reports vary about permitted room access.
Cabin locks operate on batteries, so cards/locks should function.
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Nevermind...I think.
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I wonder if they are helping all those people who missed their flights in Houston? They keep talking about getting people to Houston.

And couldn't those other cruiseships have taken some of the people?

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I wonder if they are helping all those people who missed their flights in Houston? They keep talking about getting people to Houston.

And couldn't those other cruiseships have taken some of the people?

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Thats what I was wondering but then how would they choose who got to leave? I can't imagine the anarchy that would ensue. I'd say the elderly and medically compromised populations should have been able to board the other ships if there was room. I think about the people on nonelective medications.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:01 PM   #38
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I'm thinking that transferring passengers ship to ship while at sea is a fairly dangerous project, unless done via helicopter or something.

The Triumph has now cancelled sailings through mid-April. I am scheduled to take a 5 day cruise on her in September from Galveston to Progeso and Cozumel. My first cruise, other than in a friend's cabin cruiser from Newport Beach to Catalina Island.
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Wind, waves, possibly current, and lack of forward motion were making her list. No she wouldn't have sunk.

I heard the list was 4.5 degrees at one ponit. Doesn't sound like much, but it's spooky when it does.
I'm not familiar with marine talk, what does "list " mean?

Is that the degree of tilt side to side or front or back?
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I saw an interview today with a gentleman who's mother and her boyfriend are aboard the ship and according to him, she reports there are feces everywhere, very little food, and the smell is horrible. Carnival's statement was bland.

I know this can happen on any cruise line. I was leery about Carnival while deciding on a cruise line for DS's trip. I'm glad I chose Disney.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but this could happen on Disney or any other cruise line just as well.
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I'm not familiar with marine talk, what does "list " mean?

Is that the degree of tilt side to side or front or back?
Side to side. In this case leaning to port. I have no idea how I know it was to port. ESP
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I'm thinking that transferring passengers ship to ship while at sea is a fairly dangerous project, unless done via helicopter or something.
It is a dangerous project. The Navy can do it, but both ships have to be properly equipped, and have to have propulsion. As for helicopters, if they can land on deck, you can transfer a few people at a time. Without ample landing space it's one at a time on a litter or harness, which is not feasible with thousands of people and is a pretty risky maneuver. What would be feasible based on the number of passengers is transferring via boat, but that has inherent danger as well. I would expect if they evacuated that way there would be a number of serious injuries, maybe a death or two. Those are great odds if the ship is sinking, but unacceptable if the worst case scenario is a few days of misery.
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Thank you for answering my question and providing all the additional information as well. I appreciate it.

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but this could happen on Disney or any other cruise line just as well.
Exactly
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Watching Piers Morgan Show on CNN...this is ridiculous!
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