Any other Breaking Bad fans out there?

[jgh]

Originally Posted by Sherry E

jgh -

There are 8 more new episodes coming, but they do not begin until July (they are being filmed now). Technically those final 8 episodes are supposed to be part of Season 5, which began in July of last year. But because they are spaced so far apart it seems like two separate seasons to most people!

I don't think many people are happy with the way the final "Breaking Bad" season is being broken up. At least in the case of "Walking Dead," they split the season up with only a 2-3 month break before finishing it off in Spring. They don't split one season and put 10 months in between new episodes. That's just crazy! The "Breaking Bad" folks should just call it Season 6 that's coming in July!

I think that a lot of folks feel that the first 8 shows of Season 5 of "Breaking Bad" last year were not that strong. I would say that the last few shows out of the 8 were stronger, with the last one (it aired in early September) being the darkest and strongest one of the bunch. The last one really kind of showed the depths to which Walter White has sunk to save his behind.

Anna Gunn (who plays Skylar) said a few nights ago that these final 8 shows coming soon are "brutal" and "apocalyptic," and that they are "not holding back." So I would say, since there are only 8 shows left and then the series is ending in September, hang in there and try to watch!

Awesome. Thanks! I'll probably just hold off on watching it anymore until it's completely finished and they have everything available online.

[kaligal]

Originally Posted by Gorechick

Can someone give me a spoiler? I haven't watched in awhile and not sure if I'll get to see more but does Hank know by now?

Originally Posted by Princess Dolly

I think Hank knew/suspected all along but just had it confirmed.

Yup. Hank either just found out or just found proof.

What he does with that info we shall have to wait to see. Walt is his BIL, after all. And it isn't like Hank is above breaking the law to participate in illegal substance use...

I always wondered about that partner of Hank's, too.

When Walt and Jesse went to see crazy Tuco, I thought about how nuts he was...and how much was his own lunacy, how much was his position in that world. I thought about how Walt could turn out like that and wondered how many people end up like that IRL.

I wonder if Walt/Heisenberg will be that crazy at the end and be killed by the new guys, Todd and his uncle or their little gang. Like a Circle of Life kind of thing.

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One time, Jesse was yelling at Walter about how they were partners and equals and he wasn't taking orders from Walt any longer. I started singing, "You're not the boss of me now..."

DS, who was the reason we watched Malcolm in the first place, was not amused.

...but I was.

[Sherry E]

It's very possible that Hank could 'overlook' what he discovered/learned if Walt convinces him that he is truly out of the business forever and that it wouldn't be good for Skylar, Walt Jr./Flynn or baby Holly if he got sent away. I mean, of course, Hank shouldn't overlook any of it, but he could be convinced...

So let's just say that happens, hypothetically - Hank decides to somehow let it go, but meanwhile is secretly amazed and impressed that his dorky brother-in-law Walt was able to pull all of it off.

If that happens (Hank sweeps his knowledge under the carpet and stays quiet), then I see one of two things possibly happening as a result:

1) Marie will end up getting killed through some sort of drug business-related situation and Hank will be out for blood, with Walt as the #1 target; or

2) Somehow Hank will end up getting killed (by Walt or by one of the other drug people) and Walt will go on the run. Hank's partner, Gomey/Gomez, will have to be the one who chases after Walt, because he will see something in Hank's notes about Walt being Heisenberg and finally realize what's been happening.




As for what will happen at the very end of the series (like in the last 2 or 3 episodes), I can't help but return to the same scenario in my mind. I think this is the scenario that I have pondered more than any others:

I think that Walt will end up going on the run because several people from several different camps could be after him at the same time - 1. Hank (or Gomez, taking Hank's place) will be after him; 2. Jesse could be after him (once he finds out that Walt has done some extra things he didn't know about); 3. Quiet, creepy Todd (or Todd's violent "uncle" and his gang) will be after Walt for some reason or other; and 4. Quite possibly, Lydia's people could be after Walt (remember how she was so easily going to have all of those men killed off, even without Mike's help) for some reason. She is not above that sort of thing. Maybe even that Declan guy could go after Walt for whatever reason (remember Declan - the drug guy from Arizona or wherever he was from?).

Also, Skylar could run off with Ted and go into hiding (with Saul's help) to protect baby Holly and Walt Jr./Flynn, or she could just end up getting killed along the way.

In any case, I think that Walt will feel backed into a corner with all of these people on his tail. Some of them will die along the way, of course, but some will find him. And in the middle of all of the madness (after a few more deaths) he will know that the cancer is going to get him anyway, eventually...so he will swallow one of his own chemical concoctions (like the vial of ricin that is currently stashed in the wall) and end it all.

Yes, Walt could go out by someone else's hands, but it would seem fitting (and ironic) if he used one of his own evil scientific creations to kill himself in the end - OR if Jesse took him out. Those two options for Walt's demise would be the most poetic and appropriate.

[kaligal]

I've often thought Skylar would manage to testify against Walt, enter witness protection with her kids...and steal some of the money so that they're all set for life. Maybe in a tropical location.

Not only would Skylar beat Walt, she'd beat all the fans who hate her so much, lol.

[zippingalong]

If anyone takes out Walt, my guess is it will be Jesse...

Just another option. Hank now knows Walt is the cook, but doesn't go straight to him...he knocks on Skinny Pete's door, or Brandon's. Walt finds out and takes them out. Jesse finds out. Remember how angry he was about Combo? I think along the way, Jesse may find out the fates of Mike and Jane...and that would be it. Walt would be done.

[kaligal]

Saul was in a Super Bowl commercial. He wasn't Saul, of course. But I was trying to yell, "It's Saul!" over everyone else. My throat was hurting, but I was so excited, "It's Saul! It's Saul!"

I'm enjoying reading everyone's ideas and wish people would expand on them, lol. Like...zipping along, why does Hank go to Skinny Pete?

[SgtClaymore]

It's one of the realest shows out these days! My friend got me hooked and now I can't stop watching it lol.

[Sherry E]

Originally Posted by kaligal

Saul was in a Super Bowl commercial. He wasn't Saul, of course. But I was trying to yell, "It's Saul!" over everyone else. My throat was hurting, but I was so excited, "It's Saul! It's Saul!"

I'm enjoying reading everyone's ideas and wish people would expand on them, lol. Like...zipping along, why does Hank go to Skinny Pete?

For some reason I missed most of the commercials this year - usually I try to pay attention to them. So I missed Saul! The one ad I saw (and loved) was the Clydesdale/Budweiser ad. I was actually wiping tears from my eyes over that commercial - whoever thought of it is brilliant!

I agree - I love reading all the different ideas that people have about Breaking Bad. Plus, it gives us all something to discuss and do until the show comes back in 5 months. We need to kill some time! It's fun to run different scenarios around and see which ones sound most plausible.

Here's something else to ponder - and I wonder if I somehow missed a mention of this in the show, or if it hasn't been addressed yet...

Gus Fring's family. Where are they? WHO are they? We know that after Tuco was killed in season 1, that pesky Salamanco family wouldn't leave it alone and it took quite a while to get rid of them.

But...Gus mentioned "the children" when he was eating dinner at his house with Walt or Jesse. He said the children didn't like the fish stew or whatever it was that he served. There was no sign of them running around the house so he obviously kept them hidden elsewhere so they'd be protected. Maybe he didn't even tell Mike where his family was?

What if someone from Gus' family also joins in the chase after Walt? It could be that the missing Fring family hasn't been seen yet and will suddenly surface in the first episode in July. Or...is there any possible way, within reason, that the boring Lydia (who we don't care about even though we know that something suspicious is up with her) could have been romantically involved with Gus and is secretly out for blood?? She acts all jittery and afraid of being killed or caught at any moment, but she could secretly be plotting against Walt.

[Princess Dolly]

Originally Posted by Sherry E

It's very possible that Hank could 'overlook' what he discovered/learned if Walt convinces him that he is truly out of the business forever and that it wouldn't be good for Skylar, Walt Jr./Flynn or baby Holly if he got sent away. I mean, of course, Hank shouldn't overlook any of it, but he could be convinced...

So let's just say that happens, hypothetically - Hank decides to somehow let it go, but meanwhile is secretly amazed and impressed that his dorky brother-in-law Walt was able to pull all of it off.

If that happens (Hank sweeps his knowledge under the carpet and stays quiet), then I see one of two things possibly happening as a result:

1) Marie will end up getting killed through some sort of drug business-related situation and Hank will be out for blood, with Walt as the #1 target; or

2) Somehow Hank will end up getting killed (by Walt or by one of the other drug people) and Walt will go on the run. Hank's partner, Gomey/Gomez, will have to be the one who chases after Walt, because he will see something in Hank's notes about Walt being Heisenberg and finally realize what's been happening.




As for what will happen at the very end of the series (like in the last 2 or 3 episodes), I can't help but return to the same scenario in my mind. I think this is the scenario that I have pondered more than any others:

I think that Walt will end up going on the run because several people from several different camps could be after him at the same time - 1. Hank (or Gomez, taking Hank's place) will be after him; 2. Jesse could be after him (once he finds out that Walt has done some extra things he didn't know about); 3. Quiet, creepy Todd (or Todd's violent "uncle" and his gang) will be after Walt for some reason or other; and 4. Quite possibly, Lydia's people could be after Walt (remember how she was so easily going to have all of those men killed off, even without Mike's help) for some reason. She is not above that sort of thing. Maybe even that Declan guy could go after Walt for whatever reason (remember Declan - the drug guy from Arizona or wherever he was from?).
Also, Skylar could run off with Ted and go into hiding (with Saul's help) to protect baby Holly and Walt Jr./Flynn, or she could just end up getting killed along the way.

In any case, I think that Walt will feel backed into a corner with all of these people on his tail. Some of them will die along the way, of course, but some will find him. And in the middle of all of the madness (after a few more deaths) he will know that the cancer is going to get him anyway, eventually...so he will swallow one of his own chemical concoctions (like the vial of ricin that is currently stashed in the wall) and end it all.

Yes, Walt could go out by someone else's hands, but it would seem fitting (and ironic) if he used one of his own evil scientific creations to kill himself in the end - OR if Jesse took him out. Those two options for Walt's demise would be the most poetic and appropriate.

Remember the Flash Forward that started this season with Walt in the restaurant and then meeting that guy and buying the firearms.

[7165red]

It was fun to see Saul in the super bowl commercial.

[zippingalong]

Originally Posted by kaligal

Saul was in a Super Bowl commercial. He wasn't Saul, of course. But I was trying to yell, "It's Saul!" over everyone else. My throat was hurting, but I was so excited, "It's Saul! It's Saul!"

I'm enjoying reading everyone's ideas and wish people would expand on them, lol. Like...zipping along, why does Hank go to Skinny Pete?

Hank could go to either one of them (I think) because he saw Badger and Skinny Pete leave Jesse's house together when he was staking out Jesse looking for the camper. He knew Badger from the first search for Heisenburg (when they arrested the con for hire) and he would have noted both license plate numbers when they got into their cars. Pete's mentioned in the past that he's on probation.

It's just a guess (obviously) but, if Hank doesn't go directly to Walt, and he has to walk on eggshells regarding Jesse, that Badger or Skinny Pete would be the person who would take the pressure.

[kaligal]

Originally Posted by zippingalong

Hank could go to either one of them (I think) because he saw Badger and Skinny Pete leave Jesse's house together when he was staking out Jesse looking for the camper. He knew Badger from the first search for Heisenburg (when they arrested the con for hire) and he would have noted both license plate numbers when they got into their cars. Pete's mentioned in the past that he's on probation.

It's just a guess (obviously) but, if Hank doesn't go directly to Walt, and he has to walk on eggshells regarding Jesse, that Badger or Skinny Pete would be the person who would take the pressure.

I see.

That's right - Skinny Pete was on probation. That was his reason for not wanting to attack or kill people, lol. Like murder is okay, so long as it isn't a parole violation.

I love Badger. He is always hilarious and was generally under-used, IMO.

[Sherry E]

For those who have not yet seen "Breaking Bad" and want to get caught up before the season resumes (and the series ends) this summer, and you don't want to deal with Netflix or an online service...

Not only has AMC been running the first episodes of Season 5 (one of them airs every Monday morning) for the last few weeks, but the series is also starting from the very beginning on the Sundance Channel, as of this coming Monday, March 4th (check your listings for times)!!! They are kicking it off with the pilot episode and then "Cat's In the Bag," with more episodes to air on March 11th. I was surprised to see that Sundance was going to be airing it.


Also, I guess no one knows the answer to my question about Gus Fring's family (in my previous post, above)?? Gus only referenced "the children" when talking about how they didn't like the stew he made for Walt (and Jesse). But we never saw any kids or a wife.

Obviously a man such as Gus Fring would protect his family and keep their identities hidden. I am wondering if there is any possibility of one of his secret family members suddenly surfacing in the final 8 episodes of "Breaking Bad" and joining in the ranks of people who will inevitably be chasing after Walt.

And is there any possibility that Lydia could have been more involved with Gus than just the 'business' connection we already know about?? I know there has to be more to her than what we've already seen (which is incredibly boring) -- and that would be a nifty way to make her more interesting.

[Heluvsme]

Could Lydia actually be Gus's daughter? I'm trying to think of things she said to Walt and nothing is ringing a bell with me. She always wore sunglasses when they met. She didn't hesitate or even blink when referring to having someone killed. But.... you'd think if she were related to Gus she wouldn't be so close... same city, etc.

I like the theory though... that someone from Gus' family might make an appearance!!

[Sherry E]

Originally Posted by Heluvsme

Could Lydia actually be Gus's daughter? I'm trying to think of things she said to Walt and nothing is ringing a bell with me. She always wore sunglasses when they met. She didn't hesitate or even blink when referring to having someone killed. But.... you'd think if she were related to Gus she wouldn't be so close... same city, etc.

I like the theory though... that someone from Gus' family might make an appearance!!

I'm thinking that someone from Gus' family has to materialize. Out of all of the people who will be chasing after Walt, the one that would/could really be out for blood would be someone closely involved with Gus. And, of course, Walt has lulled himself into a false sense of security after recruiting Todd's uncle and his people to 'take care of business' in the "Gliding Over All" episode last year. Walt isn't even thinking about any other people potentially tied to Gus.

Lydia could turn out to be a relative of Gus...or she could turn out to be his younger mistress or something. Maybe the daughter she has is his?? It would be a great twist if it happened.

One way or the other, something will happen with Lydia where she and Walt end up at odds. Either she will reveal herself to be someone closer to Gus than we realized, OR she will just simply turn on Walt for some other reason.

Walt probably has his guard somewhat down with Lydia because she is female, she acts nervous and skittish, and she seems to crumble under pressure when backed into a corner. He probably doesn't view her as much of a threat. He thinks he is the one in charge.

I almost get the feeling that Lydia was written that way and portrayed that way so we, the viewers, would all see her as very annoying, weak and bland...only to be shocked when she shows her true colors in the final episodes. Even when she was going to hire someone to take care of the 9 men, she acted as if she was doing it out of fear and paranoia - not because she was a major criminal/murderess. But I think she might be a major criminal and murderess!