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Old 02-06-2013, 05:37 AM   #31
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We did disney for 2082 staying at all stars, virgin flights and ultimates for two adults in 2005! I wish it was that cheap but like wayne has said close to that proceis doable if your flexible
Same! Those were the days...
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:29 AM   #32
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Again..nobody is saying it can't be done, but the OP said that they want to stay on-site and they don't have passes.
Realistically I don't think its do-able for £2k all in.
I agree that maybe he will need to reduce the time there, which would be a shame for a first visit not doing at least 2 weeks or wait a while longer and save a bit longer and get the holiday that he wants with no regrets.
Again... As I said we are doing 2k including spends so if the op were to clarify if they could have spends on top then it might be more realistic. However I hadn't seen that they want to stay onsite, I really don't think that can be done for 2k
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Can he stay "onsite" but not really? Like Wyndham Bonnet Creek? I've been reading about great deals (on the non-UK portion of the site) where you can get a 1 bedroom or 2 bedroom for a week at $500 US! It's supposed to be at/near DTD?

Although at that point, you'd have to add in the cost of parking. But depending on the price of the tickets, perhaps one person could get an annual passport (you get free parking with an AP and don't have to rely on shuttles/buses)
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I think the OP needs to clarify exactly what their friend wants for their £2K. Do they want onsite? Do they want a car? Do they want to do Universal, Sea World etc.? Do they want to pay for their food up front? Do they enjoy visiting new cities and exploring or do they want the package holiday experience?

I realise that I am in the minority on this board in the way I holiday because I would never book a package - but it does save thousands for us because of our needs (2 adults, school holidays only...not exactly your classic family break).

I get why people book package holidays, it's just not for me - but I will never dismiss their ideas out of the water because it's not how I choose to holiday. I do find it remarkable that every suggestion that isn't "in line" with the "typical" Disney experience is shot down, though - and my own statements constantly questioned for their validity (yes, you can eat well for $40 each/day, I assure you - including at least one meal in the parks!). I have certainly been to Orlando many times, but I figured out the bus system, staying offsite etc. by putting in just a little extra planning - the same as I do wherever I am visiting, even if it's my first I've in a place/country/continent! Orlando couldn't really be much easier to research, given it's an incredibly popular tourist destination in a rich, westernised, English speaking country. My idea of a cracking holiday may well not match many others', or even the OP's, but some people do prefer to travel this way...
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I realise that I am in the minority on this board in the way I holiday because I would never book a package
I don't think so.

I've never booked a package and most posts I see here are people being advised to book flights and hotel separate.

Your trips are so cheap becasue there are sacrifices you don;t mind making, which as someone who has been to Orlando lots are absolutely fine for you.

First timers - unless they're willing to put hours of research and planning in, and skip Disney, which let's admit it, aren't many people - would not have a very enjoyable holiday experience on your budget.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:27 AM   #36
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First timers - unless they're willing to put hours of research and planning in, and skip Disney, which let's admit it, aren't many people - would not have a very enjoyable holiday experience on your budget.
I get the wanting to do Disney part. But why would they otherwise not have a good time on my budget? What really is the difference between riding the public bus and riding the Disney bus? Whats the difference between getting on the public bus and catching ME? What really is the difference between staying offsite and staying onsite? What really is the difference between bing your food up front (or paying it as part of your hotel room fee) and budgeting for it? Why is it not possible for a person to visit a new place and really enjoy it, without booking a package where everything is "taken care of" for them?

It's not like I'm suggesting anyone rents a shack on the side of the road just outside Tampa, travels by donkey back to the parks and eats out of Tupperware. I'm merely pointing out that there are alternatives. And lots of first timers do this. Hours of research and planning? Hardly. Reading a few basic guides on tripadvisor or asking here will tell you everything you need to know. And I know this because I've done it...I didn't just learn how to DIY a holiday through osmosis.
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I realise that I am in the minority on this board in the way I holiday because I would never book a package
I don't book packages either (although I did for my first two trips because I didn't know any better ). As Torsie says, though, there are sacrifices you are willing to make and still be able to have the holiday you enjoy. We all choose to holiday differently. Personally, I don't make sacrifices on holiday but I do make sacrifices that others might not, throughout the year, in order to pay for the kind of holidays we choose to take.

I don't think anybody has dismissed anything because it doesn't fulfil the 'Disney ideal' but, more because they recognise that a first-time visitor with a child (who may have some disagree of disability) who wants to do (as the OP herself stated) the "best of Universal and Disney" and (as she later stated) stay onsite is going to struggle to do all of that for less than £2K. Especially if that £2K includes spending money. What 10-year old child isn't going to want a t-shirt and a cuddly toy or two

Nobody is questioning the validity of your statements. Personally, I think it's great that you can get a 10 day holiday to Orlando, staying in a nice hotel, eating good food and including all your transport, tickets, souvenirs and other costs for less than £1K per person. The OP asked if it could be done and most people said they didn't think so, having (correctly) made a few assumptions about what the OP's friend may want (and need) for a first trip with his child. She also asked for some ideas about where to book things and suggestions for resorts. You were the only person (as far as I could tell) who said it definitely could be done and provided examples of costs to back it up but, rather than answer the OP's enquiries about the practicalities of how it could be done cheaply, where to stay, where to eat for $40 a day etc. you just pooh-poohed all those who said it would be difficult and accused them of dismissing your suggestions out of hand.

The OP has asked two questions - can it be done? And, if so, how? The OP has already clarified that her friends does want to do Disney AND Universal and she believes he would also want/need to stay onsite.

So my original responses till stands. I don't believe it can be done for £2K.
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I don't book packages either (although I did for my first two trips because I didn't know any better ). As Torsie says, though, there are sacrifices you are willing to make and still be able to have the holiday you enjoy. We all choose to holiday differently. Personally, I don't make sacrifices on holiday but I do make sacrifices that others might not, throughout the year, in order to pay for the kind of holidays we choose to take.

I don't think anybody has dismissed anything because it doesn't fulfil the 'Disney ideal' but, more because they recognise that a first-time visitor with a child (who may have some disagree of disability) who wants to do (as the OP herself stated) the "best of Universal and Disney" and (as she later stated) stay onsite is going to struggle to do all of that for less than £2K. Especially if that £2K includes spending money. What 10-year old child isn't going to want a t-shirt and a cuddly toy or two

Nobody is questioning the validity of your statements. Personally, I think it's great that you can get a 10 day holiday to Orlando, staying in a nice hotel, eating good food and including all your transport, tickets, souvenirs and other costs for less than £1K per person. The OP asked if it could be done and most people said they didn't think so, having (correctly) made a few assumptions about what the OP's friend may want (and need) for a first trip with his child. She also asked for some ideas about where to book things and suggestions for resorts. You were the only person (as far as I could tell) who said it definitely could be done and provided examples of costs to back it up but, rather than answer the OP's enquiries about the practicalities of how it could be done cheaply, where to stay, where to eat for $40 a day etc. you just pooh-poohed all those who said it would be difficult and accused them of dismissing your suggestions out of hand.

The OP has asked two questions - can it be done? And, if so, how? The OP has already clarified that her friends does want to do Disney AND Universal and she believes he would also want/need to stay onsite.

So my original responses till stands. I don't believe it can be done for £2K.
I didn't bother to make suggestions for hotels etc. after the OP said moments later they would want onsite as we all agree that there's no way it can be done onsite for £2K. If they want offsite, I'm happy to help explaining all the costs I outlined in my budget - but there was no point the second that the OP made that statement. Instead, several other posters told her that everything I'd said was absolutely impossible/impractical/unenjoyable for her friend.

As for the comments about souvenirs etc. - as I said, the OP hasn't actually specified what their friend wants for that 2K (flights, hotel tickets and food or really "all in" down to the last cuddly toy). I have no idea how much shopping they want to do? But at least the OP knows what can be done offsite for £2K (and with Universal AND Disne, it would only run ~£400 over the budget I gave her). Her friend may not be willing to make the "sacrifice" of staying offsite, but that's their choice and at least the OP can show them that it can be done - and it was the only suggestion of how their friend might be able to fit a trip with his son into his budget (and, of course, I never claimed it met all of the requirements - in fact, I detailed exactly what you would get for that money, down to the UK petrol costs...).
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I didn't bother to make suggestions for hotels etc. after the OP said moments later they would want onsite as we all agree that there's no way it can be done onsite for £2K. If the want ffsite, im happy to help. As for the comments about souvenirs etc. - as I said, the OP hasn't actually specified what their friend wants for that 2K (flights, hotel tickets and food or really "all in" down to the last cuddly toy). I have no idea how much shopping they want to do? But at least the OP knows what can be done offsite for £2K (and with Universal AND Disne, it would only run ~£400 over the budget I gave her). Her friend may not be willing to make the "sacrifice" of staying offsite, but that's their choice and at least the OP can show them that it can be done - and it was the only suggestion of how their friend might be able to fit a trip with his son into his budget.
I don't disagree with you. Since the OP hasn't actually specified exactly what her friend wants to do within the £2K budget, it is practically impossible to say with any degree of certainty whether it can be done or not. I suspect not, but I don't actually know for a fact without far more detail. As the OP said, she was going to put together a spreadsheet for her friend with an idea of options and costs. Once she has done that, maybe she will come back and let us know what he decided...or ask for more help. And I am fairly sure that, if she needs more help, the DISers here will be more than happy to give advice and suggestions.
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I get the wanting to do Disney part. But why would they otherwise not have a good time on my budget?

What really is the difference between riding the public bus and riding the Disney bus?

?!? A lot! A lynx at best is going to take you to the TTC having stopped a load of times on the way. And that's me assuming there's a direct MCO bus. Imagine you've never taken your child before and you spend the best part of 2 hours on a bus after a 14 hour journey and you get dropped at the TTC or somehwere offsite that isn't right outside your front door.

Whats the difference between getting on the public bus and catching ME?

again - a LOT! Timetable, the fact you're dropped at the TTC. It's make it at LEAST double the journey. Especially if you are going to a water park, DHS or AK


What really is the difference between staying offsite and staying onsite?

If you've not got a car - then a lot! See above points.

Why is it not possible for a person to visit a new place and really enjoy it, without booking a package where everything is "taken care of" for them?

It is - I just said above I've *never* booked a package.
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?!? A lot! A lynx at best is going to take you to the TTC having stopped a load of times on the way. And that's me assuming there's a direct MCO bus. Imagine you've never taken your child before and you spend the best part of 2 hours on a bus after a 14 hour journey and you get dropped at the TTC or somehwere offsite that isn't right outside your front door.
But if you stay offsite and book somewhere on a bus route (which is very, very easy to do) the bus WILL take you to your hotel which is right outside your front door? If you're staying onsite, of course you take ME. Best part of two hour journey??

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again - a LOT! Timetable, the fact you're dropped at the TTC. It's make it at LEAST double the journey. Especially if you are going to a water park, DHS or AK
The Lynx buses stop at several places in Disney and run regularly (plus, unlike Disny transportation, you know when they will arrive because there is a timetable. They also load/unload faster than Disney buses and are faster at accommodating those with disabilities in my experience).

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It is - I just said above I've *never* booked a package.
Yet you said no first timer would have an enjoyable time using my method
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We have travelled to Orlando, approximately 20 times, and in the last 7 years we have had the joy of taking our children too, this has sadly bumped the price up to around £6000 for a two week trip. We are by no means frivolous with our spends, and DH loves to try and save money!

One year we stayed at a budget hotel, it was the choice of this or no trip. The hotel provided a daily shuttle to the parks, and there was a Lynx bus stop nearby too, however we didn't entertain the thought of using the buses, I'm sure that if you're a couple or a family with older children then this would be fine, but with younger ones or those with special needs it would be a tiresome experience, I understand that the bus services are reliable etc but at the end of a long day at MK for instance you just want to get those kids home to bed, and yourself 9 times out of 10 come to think of it! So by using either the direct service of the Disney buses or hiring a car this is IMO the best option for the OPs friend. rather than going round the houses to get back to your hotel or whatever.

I am currently helping my SIL to sort out a holiday for their family to WDW in the summer, as she is so overwhelmed by all of the information out there, it would be foolish for a first time visitor not to research the destination fully and I depth, again especially if there are children involved in the trip. Personally I would say that not planning would be their worst mistake, as we have been so many times we feel that it's second nature to us, we know where to go, where to eat, what can save money etc, but a first timer isn't going to know this, the boards are invaluable for information and I would say always gain perspective from every view.

The whole point of Florida with kids is Disney, why go otherwise? Yes we have been on trips where we haven't bothered, but my 6 year old has been there 6 times, he's not going to be fussed if he misses out one year on Disney, as a parent I would feel like They were missing out if we went but didn't do Disney and it was their first and possibly only trip to suggest that they don't do disney's parks is ludicrous to me again just IMO.


Personally I'd say to the OP's friend.....

Wait and save up enough to do the trip properly, I wouldn't reduce the length of my trip to save a bit of cash, travelling is hard on you and takes up two days of your holiday.

Research everything you would like to do thoroughly, gain the views of other people who have done it and make up your own mind especially about what would work for your family, what is great for one isn't necessarily going to work for others.
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But in answer to the original question...... No I don't think it's particularly do-able in the current climate to travel for 2k, and have the "experience of florida"

I hope they get their holiday sorted!
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Staying onsite and school holiday flight costs is going to be difficult. If they have not been before I would suggest saving more money and going 2 weeks later rather than rushing into it and going for a shorter time.
Unfortunately out of school is not an option,so i suggested as late on in August the better.

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Can he wait a year and make it £3k?

Then he can very comfortably do it either 2 weeks at a value, or a week at a value and a week on I-Drive.
I passed on this idea of waiting unit he can spend a bit more money.He seems dead set on staying onsite.
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If he is happy to stay a week instead of 2, or even 9 or 10 days, price up the trip on the US site. I'm planning a week later in the year and it works out much cheaper purely because I am not compelled to buy 14 day tickets (7 days is the same price) for a 7 night stay.

Even without discounts it is cheaper than Disney UK

I agree with your friend - offsite would not be an option for me with a child and no car. I've done Disney with my DD - just the 2 of us - with her at age 6,7, 8, 9 and 10. I would still not do offsite with her and she is very well travelled. It's a stress reduction that is worth paying for or making sacrifices elsewhere
100% agree.Onsite would be so much more relaxing.

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Again..nobody is saying it can't be done, but the OP said that they want to stay on-site and they don't have passes.
Realistically I don't think its do-able for £2k all in.
I agree that maybe he will need to reduce the time there, which would be a shame for a first visit not doing at least 2 weeks or wait a while longer and save a bit longer and get the holiday that he wants with no regrets.
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I think the OP needs to clarify exactly what their friend wants for their £2K. Do they want onsite? Do they want a car? Do they want to do Universal, Sea World etc.? Do they want to pay for their food up front? Do they enjoy visiting new cities and exploring or do they want the package holiday experience?
Onsite yes, car no, Universal & Sea World would be great be he realises that its probably not an option, WDW is the main priority.Free dining i think will be a deal breaker.Package or DIY, it doesn't matter,its all down to the cheapest option.

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Universal & Sea World would be great be he realises that its probably not an option,
If he does go then they are an option - but will of course add some money.

We buy these tickets when we go:

http://www.dreamsunlimitedtravel.com...al/tickets.htm

Transfers have worked great, and we've always gotten plenty done in 1 day, but as you can see its not a lot more to make it two.

ETA - the transfers have also always dropped and picked at Seaworld on the way, but we've not done SW yet.
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Unfortunately, however dead-set OP's friend is about staying onsite during school holidays for less than £2k (I presume that would be for approximately two weeks and include tickets, transfers and flights?), it's just not going to happen.
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