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Old 02-05-2013, 06:22 PM   #1
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Disney working on stand-alone 'Star Wars' films

Disney working on stand-alone 'Star Wars' films

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LOS ANGELES  Disney is mining The Force for even more new films.

Walt Disney Co. CEO Bob Iger said Tuesday that screenwriters Larry Kasdan and Simon Kinberg are working on stand-alone "Star Wars" movies that aren't part of the new trilogy that's in the works.

"There has been speculation about some standalone films that have been in development, and I can confirm to you today that in fact we are working on a few stand-alone films," Iger told CNBC.

Iger said the movies would be based on "great `Star Wars' characters that are not part of the overall saga." The films would be released during the six-year period of the new trilogy, which starts in 2015 with "Star Wars: Episode VII."

Disney confirmed last month that "Star Trek" director J.J. Abrams will direct the seventh installment of the "Star Wars" saga.

Disney bought "Star Wars" maker Lucasfilm last year for more than $4 billion.

The last "Star Wars" trilogy, a prequel to the original films, was released from 1999 to 2005.
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Here's the CNBC interview with Iger: http://www.cnbc.com/id/100434935
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:21 PM   #3
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I hope they do a Boba Fett movie! I vote for the Boba!
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:50 PM   #4
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This could really work for the franchise, sort of doing the Avengers thing in reverse. There are so many characters to explore too: Yoda, Han and Chewie, the Emperor, Boba Fett.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:02 PM   #5
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This could really work for the franchise, sort of doing the Avengers thing in reverse. There are so many characters to explore too: Yoda, Han and Chewie, the Emperor, Boba Fett.
Those would all be awesome. Almost anyone would be great in the world of Star Wars, except Jar Jar Binks. Me-say no-saw to Binksay!
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:15 PM   #6
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It's Gonna be YODA!!! Already read about it, but I'm sure Boba will be next

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Old 02-05-2013, 10:26 PM   #7
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Yoda's the big rumor, since that was where Kasdan started, writing Empire, but I haven't seen any confirmation on that. I'd love an origin story about the emperor, or a standalone Ewan McGregor as Obi film about what happened to him between the time he fought Anakin and became Alec Guinness.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:40 AM   #8
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To me this pretty much confirms that there will be new star wars attractions in the parks, there is no way Disney is going to spend this much money to make all these films and then not turn around and create new attractions for the parks.

I truly believe Star Wars is getting ready to become bigger than it ever has.
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~I don't know. I can see Princess Leia, Darth Vadar -- and *maybe* 3CPO & the gold robot -- and *possibly* Yoda. I think Disney needs to tread lightly, oversaturation of Star Wars brand could backfire and hurt the franchise. I hope this translates into Starwarsland at DHS!!!
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To me this pretty much confirms that there will be new star wars attractions in the parks, there is no way Disney is going to spend this much money to make all these films and then not turn around and create new attractions for the parks.

I truly believe Star Wars is getting ready to become bigger than it ever has.
The first part i completely disagree...
Disney parks - especially WDW - do not have an attendance problem. So to put a bunch of new star wars rides into the domestic parks would be giving the people more for what they are are already willingly paying...

that is business sense in the -1. It doesn't make any sense.

Now...Chinese parks...maybe Paris and Japan...it makes a ton of sense to throw the weight of the "Force" into those venues.

I do believe that they are going to use the franchise more in the domestic parks...i wouldn't just assume they are going go haywire and build high cost attractions...that is really counter intuitive to how they've operated since AK opened.

I'm thinking more giftshops (no question there is a star wars shop coming to downtown...maybe magic kingdom...maybe epcot as well), more characters in the parks (obviously), maybe the long desired star wars dining locations...an expansion of the star wars event at MGM...

stuff like that...not the lifesize replica of the death star.


As far as disney throwing all its weight to try and take star wars to a new level...i completely agree.

Buying Lucasfilm obviously wasn't an accident...i bet they have been sitting quietly waiting for it to be sold to a major studio for probably 25 years. They built the working relationship...then pounced.

Star Wars is unique...its a pop franchise that in modern times that started quickly and grew into the biggest thing in its field quickly and has made an unthinkable amount of fans and money.
Serendipity....the right idea, right approach, right characters, at the absolute right point in time.

You can look at the expansion of the Tolkien properties...the Harry Potter Franchise, the Batman/DC, the Spiderman/Marvel, Star trek...
all of those things are impressive as heck...

but none have cast the net as wide or been as impressive as the history of star wars...pound for pound.
It's just bigger...or was so until recent creative mistakes...


And that plays into Disney too. Star Wars can unite the creative juices of the entire company. heck, even the competitors are rooting for disney on this...
spielberg has expressed his complete respect and affection for the star wars movies for 30 years.
Fox adores them...
Paramount (the star trek people) have always given massive credit to lucas for moving their material along with technology.
Disney...the pixar computer was built by lucasfilm...so not only do they love the partnership...they owe old George about 2 billion in tickets stubs for the development work that lead to nemo and buzz and woody...

Hollywood loves and needs star wars to get back to the top. just like the PGA needs Tiger back at the top. Everyone will win.

And internally at TWDC...the tension that has apparently risen over the last few years between players - Iger, Jobs, Lasseter - can only be soothed by a collective goal for star wars.

Did bob iger ever dream of having a piece of the star wars pie? I have no doubt. Now he can eat the whole pie.
Was John Lasseter a huge star wars fan? Again...no doubt - because all creative guys in film, movies, cartoons, tv - love star wars. Its almost like a membership requirement to get into SAG or DGA.

Disney is gonna try to take this thing through the roof. they paid for it and they have the muscle to pull it off. So far, in 4 months of ownership...they have made what seems to be great choices for writing and directing of the new material. And i guarantee that they weren't cheap. That is the right approach.
As much as the geeker community might be whining about their beloved "universe"...which lucas himself took a dump on for cheap material for 15 years...Disney is doing the right thing - at least so far.
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The first part i completely disagree...
Disney parks - especially WDW - do not have an attendance problem. So to put a bunch of new star wars rides into the domestic parks would be giving the people more for what they are are already willingly paying...

that is business sense in the -1. It doesn't make any sense.
Using your logic Disney would never build anything new in the domestic parks because, well the people are already coming. Truth is, they already are (see FLE and Avatar).

Your logic doesn't account for things getting stale or actually growing attendance, nor does it account for the growing attendance at its major competitor in Orlando. I know, we've been over this before and you just seem to refuse to accept reality with Universal. Sure Universal is not WDW, nor do they have the attendance that WDW does. But they are building new things and drawing new customers. My family typically spends a week at WDW, due to work schedules and vacation schedules we do not go beyond a week. Should we decide to make the trek to Universal, which we will in the next few years, then it will simply take Disney days away from us, which means less of our money going to Disney. I would be willing to bet my family is not the only one doing that or will be doing that.

Disney already has millions of people that come to Orlando, but can they get more by adding new things, and especially Star Wars? You bet they will. Star Wars is a unique brand that I believe will actually draw people to Disney that haven't been, or don't go very often, it truly has that appeal.

Disney is sitting on a gold mine with Star Wars, they will not make possibly 6 movies and not add an attraction in Orlando for it, it just doen't make any sense.
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As someone who is a big fan of the books, here are my hopes for the spin-off movies:

-Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
-Rogue Squadron
-Wraith Squadron

As for the next trilogy, I am hoping for the Thrawn Triology.
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Using your logic Disney would never build anything new in the domestic parks because, well the people are already coming. Truth is, they already are (see FLE and Avatar).

Your logic doesn't account for things getting stale or actually growing attendance, nor does it account for the growing attendance at its major competitor in Orlando. I know, we've been over this before and you just seem to refuse to accept reality with Universal. Sure Universal is not WDW, nor do they have the attendance that WDW does. But they are building new things and drawing new customers. My family typically spends a week at WDW, due to work schedules and vacation schedules we do not go beyond a week. Should we decide to make the trek to Universal, which we will in the next few years, then it will simply take Disney days away from us, which means less of our money going to Disney. I would be willing to bet my family is not the only one doing that or will be doing that.

Disney already has millions of people that come to Orlando, but can they get more by adding new things, and especially Star Wars? You bet they will. Star Wars is a unique brand that I believe will actually draw people to Disney that haven't been, or don't go very often, it truly has that appeal.

Disney is sitting on a gold mine with Star Wars, they will not make possibly 6 movies and not add an attraction in Orlando for it, it just doen't make any sense.
The difference between us is that i hold the fandom and tend to take the worst case scenario take...

you seem to be more on the high road.

And neither of us has an entirely winning argument.

I neglected to fully explain my take:

Part of the reason that i don't think that major star wars attractions are necessarily close is that disney has just spent large sums of capital on two domestic park projects and two new cruise ships within the last 5 years...2 billion worth to be exact.

So while they will eventually throw some more big bucks out for new stuff at WDW - in particular - i don't see the argument that the time is now.

And as far as stale, tired, and the threat of Universal...you can't really throw that out as an argument now. Universal stealing Disney's business has never been documented nor really feared. You can't have business stolen if your numbers go up and you're on top...even if your competitors go up more. That is no argument.

Not while (and everybody else) continues to go and their attendance and revenues rise. It doesn't matter if its hypothetical. And all those things are...wait for it...The Phantom Menace.

In fact...a more pessimist analyst could then make the case you might be coming close to your point of market saturation...and the cap is near - making the benefit for further reinvestment far less.

Disney's attendance has grown at a steady "cost of living" "rate of inflation" type rate. Not huge gains...but just steady growth based on population and the economy.

But the important number during their 90's expansion....average length of stay....has flatlined near 7 days.
And they know full well...that is due to factors beyond their control. 3 parks - 5-6 days...4 parks...6-7 days...5 parks - 7...6 parks - 7

and on and on. So while they certainly will always do renovations and additions...the need to do so out of principal is probably not their.

Construction has other benefits other than new rides too...more room inventory, more financed debt/tax benefits...adherence to budgets for predictable results and stock stability.

They will build if and when they are ready.
My money is on not yet with Star Wars. If they prove me wrong - i don't care.

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Disney's attendance has grown at a steady "cost of living" "rate of inflation" type rate. Not huge gains...but just steady growth based on population and the economy.:
WDW's attedance between 2008 and 2011 grew only 1%, and declined between 2008 and 2009. I don't see that as very good growth.
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Two movies were confirmed online and on my local news last night. The first will feature a young Han Solo swashbuckling his way around the galaxy (most likely leading up to a chance encounter with an old jedi and young farmhand in a seedy desert cantina) and a Boba Fett film (most likely leading up to a chance meeting with a guy with a heavy breathing problem and a chance encounter with some giant tentacles in a sarlaac pit)
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