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Old 01-29-2013, 01:39 PM   #16
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So, if money was no issue...

Magic Kingdom
Fantasyland
  • Refurbish IASW with fresh paint and fix any broken AA's
  • Refurbish Mad Tea Party with fresh paint
  • Fix any broken AA's in Under The Sea
  • Refurbish Peter Pan with fresh paint and new queue
Adventureland
  • Nothing major... maybe some fresh paint wherever needed
Frontierland
  • Freshly paint Splash Mountain and fix all the broken AA's
Liberty Square
  • Nothing major... maybe some fresh paint wherever needed
Tomorrowland
  • Completely repaint and retrack Space Mountain - full refurbishment
  • Tear down Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
  • Tear down Stitch's Great Escape
  • Repaint the entire land with grays, silvers, blues
  • Update the People Mover
  • Completely retheme/refurbish the Speedway to TRON
  • Refurbish Buzz
  • Build a two new innovative rides

Epcot
Future World
  • Overhaul Innoventions with more interactive exhibits
  • New show in place of Captain EO
  • Refurbish Ellen but keep the ride!
  • Repaint anything needing painting
  • Update Soarin' with new video and technology
  • Create a new nighttime show
World Showcase
  • Add a new country Greece TS/CS and living museum
  • Add a water ride to Greece with homage to Hercules
  • Refurbish Norway's Maelstrom

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Pixar Place
  • Add a Monsters Inc dark ride
  • Add Flo's V-8 Cafe CS
  • Add a Ratatouille ride (like the one rumored to be built in DLP)
  • Tear down Backlot Tour and LMA! for this new area
  • Incredibles' Frozone water play area
  • Retheme HISTK's playground to Bug's Life
Star Wars
  • Remove IJESS, American Idol, and Sounds Dangerous
  • Expand with CS restaurant
  • Official M&G with Chewbacca and Yoda
  • Official Merchandise store (big)
  • New attraction of some sort
Everything Else
  • Refurbish GMR with new paint
  • Update Muppet*Vision

Disney's Animal Kingdom
Scrap Avatarland and instead build the Outback
  • Dark ride that introduces the various animals of the Outback (crocodiles, kangaroos, koala, emu/exotic birds, snakes)
  • New Kangaroos and Wallabies exhibit
  • Great Barrier Reef log flume-style ride with Nemo incorporated
  • Move Finding Nemo show to here
  • Australian TS
Everything Else
  • Asia: Fix the Yeti
  • Africa: Move FOTLK to Africa (actual plans are in set)
  • Africa: The Jungle Book or Tarzan M&G in Africa
  • Africa: New dark ride of Tarzan or the Jungle Book

I think that's all...
Only thing I would add to the list is additional countries in Epcot. We love this part of WDW, but have pretty much seen it all by now. We do spend 2 whole days just perusing the countries and shops each time we are there and would love to see something new!

Love the idea of making an extinction area in Animal Kingdom. And the comment about the animated and non-animated sections for DHS is just that that park needs. Pixar needs its own part of DHS, kinda like MK has "lands". Make a star wars area, a movie classics area, pixar area....etc.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:37 PM   #17
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I love many of these ideas. I would only add improving the restaurants and adding new places to eat to DHS. Yes, please improve Epcot! It needs help desperately.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:57 PM   #18
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Ok, I'm going to break the rules. Build a new park entirely somewhere near DL or WDW. Make it a villain's park. Make these changes to the classic layout:

Main Street = Sleepy Hollow;
Sleeping Beauty Castle = Malificient's Castle;
Matterhorn = Chernobog;
Train around the Park = Ghost Train around the Park;
Lampposts = Torches;
etc.

Even better, make it innocent/benign in the daytime and then go villain crazy at night!

I would visit that park... EVERY... DAY.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:17 AM   #19
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[I]So, if money was no issue...

[Disney's Animal Kingdom
Scrap Avatarland and instead build the Outback
  • Dark ride that introduces the various animals of the Outback (crocodiles, kangaroos, koala, emu/exotic birds, snakes)
  • New Kangaroos and Wallabies exhibit
  • Great Barrier Reef log flume-style ride with Nemo incorporated
  • Move Finding Nemo show to here
  • Australian TS
Agreed with the other poster: You be hired! In preparation for that, can we begin talking about me taking over the Painting Contract?

Have read the "Outback" suggestion on many other threads - LOVE IT! I fully believe that the American public is more fascinated by Australia then Avatar.

And, I loved your vision! Some additions and suggestions:
  • If I can't get Shrimp on the Barbie - I rescind my support!
  • Love the Log Flume concept! I would suggest that on one of the plunges you actually go under-water (in a TUBE) so you can see the reef.
  • If you had the reef, that is another "mini-attraction" that non-riders could view via a different area. And/or put a Restaurant with the reef surrounding the dining area.
  • Soarin' over the Outback would be cool.
  • Ayers Rock needs incorporated somehow.....
  • No snakes please!

I am a firm believer that AK represents Disney's finest work since Disneyland opened. The Outback fit's with the mantra of the park about 1 Kajillion times better then Avatar.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:01 AM   #20
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First of all, I agree with anyone who says SCRAP Avataar-land. Just a BAD idea from the get go. Especially in Animal Kingdom. If it was MGM, I'd still be resistent, but open to see what's offered.

Ok, now to everything else...

Magic Kingdom:

-I like the idea of replacing the Indy Track with the Tron bikes
-Bring back the Penny Arcade. I loved the old time games that were offered there
-Firm up the moving path on the way out of Space Mtn. Weirds me out how bouncy it is

MGM:

-Expand the Star Wars area. A couple more rides/shows. And, maybe, create a table service restaurant themed after Bespin or a Star Destroyer
-Expand on Streets of America. More streets. Maybe city specific shops or food stands down each street
-Maybe add a 3rd option on the Great Movie Ride

Animal Kingdom:
-Add S. America (no Brazilian tour group jokes/comments please) or Australia or both
-NO FRICKIN' AVATAAR-LAND!!!!

EPCOT:
-Add Russia, Greece, Ireland and maybe India
-More cutting edge technology in the Pavillions (I like what Seimen's has at the end of Spaceship Earth)
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:06 AM   #21
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Ooooh, that's a good list. I agree with the poster above--they should bring you on staff.

I do find myself thinking about this every visit (so frequently ). My short list:

Magic Kingdom

Tomorrowland needs a big redo

EPCOT

Future World needs help. I think a pavilion dedicated to the human genome would be very cool

World Showcase needs countries. My top picks would be Russia, Brazil, Turkey & Austrailia

Hollywood Studios

I've always thought this place needs some overall theme work and organization. I wouldn't mind seeing an update to Indiana Jones.

Animal Kingdom

I think a pavilion dedicated to Extinction & the Extinct might provide a real opportunity for both education and entertainment.
Extinct? What Chester and Hester isn't good enough? Kidding obviously.

Magic kingdom-
-refurb space mountain
- get rid of the laugh floor and stitch,
- update people mover
- wouldn't get rid of CoP, just refurb and update last scene
- tomorrow land speedway needs to be brought into this century--- refurb to "green" cars
- in place of laugh floor and stitch I would add a dark ride that's themed to walts vision of tomorrow, and something else innovative
- refurb astro orbit or to make it feel somewhat safe
- leave new fantasyland as is, it's new
- update splash to an actual working state
- get rid of Swiss family treehouse and the magic carpets, and add a magic carpet dark ride wear you fly over, similar to Peter Pan but Alladin theme
- modernize the jungle cruise, and update jokes

Hollywood studios
- make Pixar place more than toy story, add the monsters inc door coaster and laugh floor(where jack sparrow is)
- I like the incredibles water area
- make histk wall-e themed, since we already have it's tough to be a bug in AK
- remove backlot tour, and lights motor action, and add a unique cars ride not one at dca
- update muppet vision
- remove American idol and sounds dangerous stage and expand Star Wars and Indy into Lucas land
- retheme rnrc to non Aerosmith

Animal kingdom
-scrap avatar, make beastly kingdom
- get rid of Chester and Hester completely, add a coaster similar to dwarf mine train that goes "underground" through dinosaur fossils
- expand on the fossil kid attraction
-Get rid of the carnival style games and add a few more things to cover other extinct animals
- fix the yeti
- make rafiki more interesting
- move lion king to Africa
-bring back the boat ride

Epcot
- refurb and update universe of energy(don't get rid of Ellen but bring the ride into modern days)
- remove eo bring back honey I shrunk the audience
- refurb imagination
- add Greece
- make gondola ride in Italy
- move along with the "dead" plans of the Kodak Fuji coaster
- refurb maelstrom
- add more interactive attractions to innoventions
-update soarin for Florida, instead of making it California
- in future world add a pavilion about technology(past, present, and future)

Downtown Disney
- bring back a modified version of pleasure island
- add carnival row(games where Chester and Hester was)
- update la nouba
- update Disney quest games


I'm sure there's more, that was just a general overview of my thoughts(I'm at work haha)
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:59 AM   #22
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Hmmm...

Well,

MK-

Definitely shut down and redo all the broken hardware on Splash. I would be shocked if this was NOT on the plans to be conducted rather quickly after the seven dwarves ride goes online and they look at their priority list afterward.

perhaps some new stuff for the Jungle Cruise. I know its classic and sacrilege...but it might be time to do a little reboot of somekind, without changing it from the comedy based schtick.

I would completely revamp the merchandise (property wide) but especially in MK to go backward towards decentralized merchandise. It's never gonna happen - but i would start varying the offerings again - even if it meant some significant cost increases. Develop a "virtual shopping cart" kind of kiosk system so you can streamline having your purchases shipped en mass at the end of your trip if you wish -to allow for more shopping without the travel logistics and headaches that shopping actually creates these days.
You sell more interesting stuff - i buy more at greater price...deal?
And i even actually think they could incorporate domestic production into this - now THAT is a novel concept.

EPCOT-

The obvious answer is two more Country pavillions on the pads. The complicated parts of that is that they would have to rework the sponsorship deals. There's no doubt in my mind that they will have to do that for all the countries eventually...or lose them all. Technology is completely different now than it was in 1982...it changes how effective the country pavillions can be. But on the other hand, there are far more visitors...so there is a chance that exposure can offset the diminishing returns.
But that's new construction - not sprucing.

The other obvious answer is to replace the Wonders of Life and completely overhaul Imagination with something...anything.
I do not accept pavilions gutted for convention space or broken apart due to misguided rehab and not replaced. Nor should any paying costumer.
Anything is better than the embarrassment of what they have done.

But let's face it: alot of this is due to the same sponsorship whining that has plagued EPCOT for 15 years...they want companies to pay them, which was a great scheme in the late 70's...but must be evolved or abandoned.

Think about this: the Wonders of Life is the YOUNGEST pavilion in EPCOT...and no particular field that is covered in the showcase has had more evolution and development...nor effects human living more since the opening of EPCOT and going forward than the health field.
And they mothballed it.

Make any sense? None (and before anyone gives me the "there were major structural issues with than building" excuse - then FIX IT!!!)

Downtown Disney -

to obvious to even bother typing

MGM (or whatever) -

Tough one...i've kinda just given up on MGM

I don't think they wish to truly make the park a full day type place...and therefore won't repurpose all the wasted space.

So i guess to "spruce it up"...i'd can the hat and maybe invest in a couple of better quality quickserves...they desperately need that.

AK -

Animal Kindgom needs major work. They are bleeding money because animal parks are so high cost - yet aren't investing enough in the park to make it a can't miss draw and a real success.

So we know that they realistically need two new full blown disney-esque "lands"...anything short of that is probably silly.

But i would remove the old unused food kiosks that are stuck around the pathways if they aren't going to be used. Maybe figure our what is going on with your character areas and build a little bit nicer/more permanent spot somewhere else in the park. The kinda slow area between Asia and Africa might be nice.

Oh...and hit Chester and Hesters with a wrecking ball the size of Texas.
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What about retheme the Circle of Life with WALL-E? WALL-E has a fantastic plot/story for both Epcot and AK....
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I forgot 2 more things...

1) Bring life back into River Country. Don't make it a water park per se. But a general admission place for guests staying on resort. It's just sad when I see the pics of what it looks like now.

2) Bring back resort specific merchandise. Clothes, kitchen wares and especially the resort specific mugs. I was at POR in Dec, and our mug was all the Disney characters doing summer activities. I still have the POR mug that I bought in 2000. It's mostly faded. But I can still make out Mickey fishing at a fishin' hole while Donald and Goofy are playing river boat music.
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Agreed with the other poster: You be hired! In preparation for that, can we begin talking about me taking over the Painting Contract?

Have read the "Outback" suggestion on many other threads - LOVE IT! I fully believe that the American public is more fascinated by Australia then Avatar.

And, I loved your vision! Some additions and suggestions:
  • If I can't get Shrimp on the Barbie - I rescind my support!
  • Love the Log Flume concept! I would suggest that on one of the plunges you actually go under-water (in a TUBE) so you can see the reef.
  • If you had the reef, that is another "mini-attraction" that non-riders could view via a different area. And/or put a Restaurant with the reef surrounding the dining area.
  • Soarin' over the Outback would be cool.
  • Ayers Rock needs incorporated somehow.....
  • No snakes please!

I am a firm believer that AK represents Disney's finest work since Disneyland opened. The Outback fit's with the mantra of the park about 1 Kajillion times better then Avatar.
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I agree with your last statement wholeheartedly. The kangaroos alone would be a hit, honestly...
You could even a certain movie - 'The Rescuers Down Under'. Maybe for merchandise.
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Animal Kingdom Lodge is a deluxe resort that is phenomenal in so many regards but you have to bus everywhere or rent a car! How about an alternative, fun transport from AKL to AK? Adds something to both, I think.

Epcot has spots of genius but is in desperate need of help. Pavilions in Future World are deserted, closed, outdated, and just faded and sad. There are great attractions, but the only building with a full, consistent theme is Living Seas...and the common spaces there look like 1986. I remember being so wowed on my first visit to Future World but now (although I still love certain attractions) it bums me out...also Food and Wine reminds me how much World Showcase misses out on by not adding new countries and updating existing attractions.

HS is another place searching for a theme. Just so stuck in the past. A Backlot Tour of a place that no longer functions as a working studio? A Great Movie attraction that doesn't feature a single great film of the last decade or so? That entire half empty Backlot Area? At least at AK there are animals to look at and beautiful greenery between the attractions...When my family visits HS we do the few flagship attractions and run! Also why is one of the most popular attractions (Toy Story) jammed into a narrow gauntlet that as an afterthought had a Pixar sign slapped up? Have you tried to race the crowd down the stairs to the narrow area to get your small child on Toy Story? Ridiculous.

Also Stitch and Monsters Inc. need to go. The films/characters are attraction worthy but deserve better! Also what is with the cramped steel elevator that reaches 100 degrees to get to Astro Orbiter...but have you taken that elevator on a hot day? Brutal.

I am confused about the need to add Avatar land. Yes, the movie WAS hugely popular...WAS...doesn't anything based on a movie with no sequels, nostalgia, cross generational appeal belong at Universal? In ten years will kids be desperate to ride an Avatar ride like they are to go on a Peter Pan ride? Or to rise Space Mountain? Just no thanks.
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Animal Kingdom Lodge is a deluxe resort that is phenomenal in so many regards but you have to bus everywhere or rent a car! How about an alternative, fun transport from AKL to AK? Adds something to both, I think.
great idea...but the problem there is that the area between the hotel and the park is where a large portion of the animal habitats and service areas for the park are.

It would have to be some kind of enclosed sky bridge or underground tunnel...and they don't do that through service areas.

Its just not that easy...they have to build a ton of safety systems for animal containment. the last thing they want is a Bull Elephant rampaging around their property.

But any direct link would have to go through those areas.

Disney knew full well that they would be sacrificing "alternative" transportation in favor of buses when they built there...and doubled down with timeshares.
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