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Old 01-27-2013, 12:44 AM   #16
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I guess you could say that about every country in Epcot..

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:45 AM   #17
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PS: OP, I think we all knew you were referring to the American Pavilion not the attraction.




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Old 01-27-2013, 08:11 AM   #18
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Guess I really worded my original post badly. I understand that most foods didn't originate in the U.S.A., but that doesn't mean we aren't known for them. Just saying I think our Country should be represented better then Hot Dogs and Hamburgers at a CS.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:23 PM   #19
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I always thought it would be cool if they kept the CS, but made it more like a food court with different counters for different regions. You could have pizza, Southwest, Southern, a generic hamburgers/hot dogs, Northeast (seafood) etc.
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Shoot, there are plenty of American foods that could be in a food court or in a table service restaurant. Let's see, the lobster roll originated in Connecticut (that's right, not in Mass.), the Philly Cheesesteak originated in (shocker here) Philadelphia, and as if the cheeseseteak isn't enough to thank Pennsylvania for, they also gave us the banana split. And let's not forget foods of the south! The yummy chicken fried steak of the south, gumbo, shrimp and grits are all foods native to the south. God bless Texas, we invented the corn dog! Buffalo wings were invented in Buffalo. Baked Alaska, anyone? The Reuben was invented in America, as well. It can be misleading with its Swiss cheese (not really from Switzerland) and Russian dressing (nope, not from Russia), but it originated here in The Home of the Brave. Our American Indians were also the first ones to ever use maple syrup. Want something a little lighter? The Cobb Salad is also native to The United States.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:41 PM   #21
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I've been pushing this idea for years. Forget about trying to figure out what "real" American cuisine is. We are the melting pot. We get that. But it would be easy to design a restaurant that captures a concept that is indeed uniquely American.....road food. I would love to see an Airstream diner style casual TS place or a Route 66 style restaurant. I would call it "Stern's" in honor of the husband and wife authorities who literally wrote the book(s) on American regional cuisine. The menu could include hot dogs, hamburgers, pastrami, fried chicken and lots of other stuff that one would find on the Mother Road whether or not those foods have their origin from other countries.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:08 PM   #22
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Getting back to the original topic, no there really isn't room to add a new TS at the American Pavilion.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=epcot...41981&t=h&z=18

They couldn't take out the CS since for a certain number of guests its the only food they would eat anywhere in the WS outside maybe the Fish and Chips. They want regular food.

Also if you look at all the other TS menus at WDW they are not very extensive. Most only seem to have at most 10 entrees. Not sure how you can do a fair representation of everything the US has to offer in ten dishes.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:14 PM   #23
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Barbecue derives from the word barabicu found in the language
of the Taíno people of the Caribbean, translated it means Sacred
Fire Pit. (At least according to Altron Brown)
I thought it meant cooking over green sticks. Also from Alton Brown, which is actually not BBQ but grilling.

Which is where we get buccaneer.

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The term buccaneer derives from the Caribbean Arawak word buccan, a wooden frame for smoking meat, preferably manatee. From this became derived in French the word boucane and hence the name boucanier for French hunters who used such frames to smoke meat from feral cattle and pigs on Hispaniola (now Haiti and the Dominican Republic).[2] English colonists anglicised the word boucanier to buccaneer.
(Wikipedia but AB also brought it up)
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:33 PM   #24
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Shoot, there are plenty of American foods that could be in a food court or in a table service restaurant. Let's see, the lobster roll originated in Connecticut (that's right, not in Mass.), the Philly Cheesesteak originated in (shocker here) Philadelphia, and as if the cheeseseteak isn't enough to thank Pennsylvania for, they also gave us the banana split. And let's not forget foods of the south! The yummy chicken fried steak of the south, gumbo, shrimp and grits are all foods native to the south. God bless Texas, we invented the corn dog! Buffalo wings were invented in Buffalo. Baked Alaska, anyone? The Reuben was invented in America, as well. It can be misleading with its Swiss cheese (not really from Switzerland) and Russian dressing (nope, not from Russia), but it originated here in The Home of the Brave. Our American Indians were also the first ones to ever use maple syrup. Want something a little lighter? The Cobb Salad is also native to The United States.
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I always thought it would be cool if they kept the CS, but made it more like a food court with different counters for different regions. You could have pizza, Southwest, Southern, a generic hamburgers/hot dogs, Northeast (seafood) etc.
I LOVE these ideas! They would have to do a huge remodel to put a TS in, but the current CS could surely be adapted somewhat easily to serve a broader selection of American food. While I love The American Adventure and Spirit of America, most of the other pavilions have much better dining offerings than ours does. Pretty sad...
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I know Hot dogs and Hamburgers are as American as it gets, but think its disapointing that the U.S.A. isn't truly represented in its Area. How about a place that serves all the great regional favorites. I'm talking foods like Maryland Crab Cakes, PA Dutch Foods, Chicago style pizza, Southern B-BQ, Fish from the Northwest, and many other great foods.
I also wish it was set up differently. As you walk through WS, the lack of dinning in America seems to be 'conspicuous by it's absence', at least in comparison. Besides the kiosk, what they offer almost seems not only lacking but also hidden.... but I realize there are a lot of things involved.

Nice post and great question stoudt6!

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How about fried clams from Mass/Maine!! I think those are truly an american food!!
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I also wish it was set up differently. As you walk through WS, the lack of dinning in America seems to be 'conspicuous by it's absence', at least in comparison. Besides the kiosk, what they offer almost seems not only lacking but also hidden.... but I realize there are a lot of things involved.

Nice post and great question stoudt6!

I somehow think its also by design. Its Disney saying "Why don't you try something new."
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Sound great in theory, but I don't think this could happen in practice. There would be tons of people who would say this isn't REAL____(add regional dish here). Then there would be the discussion of why something was left off or done poorly.
I live in NYC, and I can assure you, almost all (I think Wolfgang's is supposed to be good?) PIZZA at WDW is NOT good representation of what it should be.

I mean, gross.

Asking WDW to create a restaurant to show off TRUE flavors of this country, would be a FABULOUS idea. Yum. Hush puppies, crab cakes (I also lived in MD for many years), po'boys, deep fried oreos, bbq...omg yum.
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I live in NYC, and I can assure you, almost all (I think Wolfgang's is supposed to be good?) PIZZA at WDW is NOT good representation of what it should be.

I mean, gross.

Asking WDW to create a restaurant to show off TRUE flavors of this country, would be a FABULOUS idea. Yum. Hush puppies, crab cakes (I also lived in MD for many years), po'boys, deep fried oreos, bbq...omg yum.
How big of a menu do think it would take?

It would make the Cheese Factory's menu look like a small pamphlet.
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How big of a menu do think it would take?

It would make the Cheese Factory's menu look like a small pamphlet.
Exactly. Which is why the better approach would be to focus on the style of restaurant instead of trying to appease every niche culinary idiosyncrasy.
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