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Old 01-26-2013, 01:00 PM   #16
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Nope, the size of beds does not equate to room capacity. You can have six sleeping spots but fire codes limit the room capacity to 5. So, they can only advertise the rated room capacity thus "sleeps 5"./QUOTE]

Okay, I have a lil confession. I"m a lil obsessive. Actually, I think most Disney lovers are. Several years ago when my youngest of 4 was 3, we did not fit into a room for 5 anymore. I looked at square footage of rooms. The number of people to the square footage didn't match up at all the resorts. As I am sure many have been told by the reservation cast members, the number of people in a room is determined by fire code. SOOOOOooooo, I called the county fire chief and inquired what the criteria was for the Disney properties for number of people in a room. He said it was determined by Disney and reported to the fire department how many people are in a specific room in the specific resorts. This way they would know the maximum number of guests. So, yes it is fire code, however that code is based on what Disney sets.
Except you should have called Reedy Creek which is its own authority and yes dominated by Disney appointees, not the county. However, also understand that fire codes are based on federal and local legislation and nobody dares go outside those. So in no way does Disney arbitrarily set room sizes without adhering to strict legal fire codes. I am a hotelier and know how it works, Disney would never take the liability risk of going around fire codes.
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And how would you put the wrong info in? Poly Lagoon View room, please. Oh, I see there is a Queen sleeper listed multiple times on Disney's new website. Get YOUR facts straight.
Please, no need to attack me here. I actually use the Dis and Deb's All Ears for most of my info. I just thought the way it was priced, i.e., Rooms starting at $$$, etc. It just" looked" like one of those discount sites to me, that's all. Believe me, I wasn't trying to insult anyone here. I promise in the future I WILL do my homework before I post info or opinions I'm not an expert at.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:11 PM   #18
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Nope, the size of beds does not equate to room capacity. You can have six sleeping spots but fire codes limit the room capacity to 5. So, they can only advertise the rated room capacity thus "sleeps 5"./QUOTE]

Okay, I have a lil confession. I"m a lil obsessive. Actually, I think most Disney lovers are. Several years ago when my youngest of 4 was 3, we did not fit into a room for 5 anymore. I looked at square footage of rooms. The number of people to the square footage didn't match up at all the resorts. As I am sure many have been told by the reservation cast members, the number of people in a room is determined by fire code. SOOOOOooooo, I called the county fire chief and inquired what the criteria was for the Disney properties for number of people in a room. He said it was determined by Disney and reported to the fire department how many people are in a specific room in the specific resorts. This way they would know the maximum number of guests. So, yes it is fire code, however that code is based on what Disney sets.
Occupancy isn't based on square footage in hotel rooms. It is based on the number of people in the room. Square footage is the deciding factor in assembly occupancies like theaters and ballrooms, and such. I'm sure you have seen signs in places like that which say this space is limited to XX many occupants. Hotel rooms they need to calculate the number of feet coming out of the room in a fire, how many rooms and the width of the corridor and stairs. If there are too many bodies walking/running out of the room, and not enough space in the corridor/stairwell, people get trapped. So it's not the space in the room, it's the space in the corridor and stairwell.

Read about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in the early 1900's. It kind of explains why the occupancy limits were determined as they were.

Some building owners/states/counties/parishes/cities use the National Fire Protection Association Code 101, the Life Safety Code. Others use different building codes, like the UBC (Uniform Building Code), which are very similar.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:10 PM   #19
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Right Deb & Bill it's more complicated than most people realize. Similar size rooms can have different capacities due to lots of factors as you point out.mit tends to one down to how many people in a given area (multiple rooms/spaces) can be evacuated within the required time.

I should have added to my previous post that the pp is likely being directed to "Disney" meaning Reedy Creek authority not Disne the hotelier.
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