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Old 01-15-2013, 09:54 PM   #16
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Pastors and the Amish can opt out of Social Security. That's it. If they don't pay in, then they (and their survivors) can't collect SS, whether it's because of age, disability, or death (survivor benefits).
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:01 PM   #17
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Can't speak for all states, but farm supplies are exempt from sales tax here (if you're a farmer that is). Could be many Amish avoid some taxes in this manner.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:03 PM   #18
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I work in Amish country and used to work for a public accounting firm. I have prepared many Amish tax returns, so yes they pay. The only thing they don't pay is SS and that's only after they join the church.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:30 PM   #19
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Clergy can at their option, opt out of social security. However, they must state a valid religious reason for opting out and only their income from working for the church is exempt. That means they won't pay any social security or medicare taxes and they will get no social security or medicare benefits when the time comes. Many clergy members don't opt out of social security and because many churches set them up as contract employees, if they choose to opt in to social security, they have to pay the their half and their employer's half. The rest of all the other applicable taxes, they have to pay just like the rest of us.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:32 AM   #20
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OP here - Rev DH and I definitely pay taxes just like the rest of the world. Our only exemption is on our housing allowance.

I did a little research on the Amish and they pay taxes too.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:30 AM   #21
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My BIL is a Lutheran pastor. Not only does he pay taxes but he's considered self-employed so he pays all of his Social Security.
Our congregation pays our pastor an additional Social Security offset to cover this.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:02 AM   #22
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In the next town over, there is a large population of Hasidic Jews. Many of them have services in their homes, in order for it to be recognized as a place of worship, and avoid paying property taxes (which are very high here).
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:05 PM   #23
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Our congregation pays our pastor an additional Social Security offset to cover this.
DH gets that too.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:59 PM   #24
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That is a total lie! DH is a pastor and we pay MORE in taxes. Being a minister means you are considered self-employed which means not only income taxes but also double social security taxes, employee and employer portions! It's true that the church does not take it out of his pay. He is given a check for the full amount of his salary. However we must estimate what our taxes will be and pay that every 4 months! There's no looking forward to April for our big refund in this house
Pay MORE? Than who? Sure, maybe someone employed by a company, but there's plenty of "self-employed" out there that have to pay the same taxes as I'm understanding your DH does.

Sorry, that answer just struck me wrong.
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Family is from Amish country and I can remeber my Grandfather complaining that the Amish were always using the roads but never paid for them since they never paid any gas tax.
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Pay MORE? Than who? Sure, maybe someone employed by a company, but there's plenty of "self-employed" out there that have to pay the same taxes as I'm understanding your DH does.

Sorry, that answer just struck me wrong.
Yeah, I wasn't sure why she thinks they pay more than the rest of those of us who are self employed.
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Another pastor's wife here. We've had our church withhold money from each check and submit it so that we don't get hit with quarterly taxes or nasty end of the year bills! Even though we're paying self-employed, it seems like less of a burden that way.
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