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Old 01-09-2013, 05:24 PM   #61
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Now they will not only know what park you're in but everywhere you visit and for how long. It seems to take very little incentive from companies to get us to give up our privacy! A rewards card, a convenient wrist band, etc
they already know this, especially if you have been using your KTTW card to pay for everything.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:29 PM   #62
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they already know this, especially if you have been using your KTTW card to pay for everything.
I dont use KTTW to pay and even if you do they can't track you to the level that they can with RFID
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:36 PM   #63
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I dont use KTTW to pay and even if you do they can't track you to the level that they can with RFID
The current KTTW cards have RFID in them though...
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:47 PM   #64
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Okay, I have just started reading up on this new systerm I am not tech savvy, and it does sound complicated. What I am trying to figure out and I am sorry if this has been addressed somewhere, 1)Do you have to plan all your activities for each day before you arrive? 2)Do you need to have a computer or smart phone on vacation if you want to make changes? What about the Water Parks? I know there isn't enough info out yet for me to not feel insecure of this, but I am traveling in August with 6 others, 4 of which are children, 3 of whom have never been to WDW. I am nervous to say the least Also I don't have a smart phone, nor does my daughter......
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:09 PM   #65
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Okay, I have just started reading up on this new systerm I am not tech savvy, and it does sound complicated. What I am trying to figure out and I am sorry if this has been addressed somewhere, 1)Do you have to plan all your activities for each day before you arrive? 2)Do you need to have a computer or smart phone on vacation if you want to make changes? What about the Water Parks? I know there isn't enough info out yet for me to not feel insecure of this, but I am traveling in August with 6 others, 4 of which are children, 3 of whom have never been to WDW. I am nervous to say the least Also I don't have a smart phone, nor does my daughter......
I wouldn't even worry about it if you don't want to use it. From an article in a Tampa newspaper:

"Guests will not be forced to use the MagicBand system, and people who try it will decide how much information to share."

ETA: I would post the link but I don't have 10 posts on this forum yet
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:17 PM   #66
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Now they will not only know what park you're in but everywhere you visit and for how long. It seems to take very little incentive from companies to get us to give up our privacy! A rewards card, a convenient wrist band, etc

A voice of reason. The lack of privacy bothers me too.

Also, if they hand over your AP wristband when you purchase it, how will you know the CM made a mistake in your expiration date? Has happened to me a couple of times.

I think it will soon get to the point that Disney will have the name and address of every guest in the park. Even now if you buy a ticket at the main gate you don't get to just hand over cash and get a ticket...they ask your name, etc. I bet those with other outside media (like an UT ticket) will have to trade it in for the wristband, giving up your name etc to the data bank. Who wants to bet they are cross referencing with the homeland databases for unobtrusive security?
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:20 PM   #67
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I think it will soon get to the point that Disney will have the name and address of every guest in the park. Even now if you buy a ticket at the main gate you don't get to just hand over cash and get a ticket...they ask your name, etc. I bet those with other outside media (like an UT ticket) will have to trade it in for the wristband, giving up your name etc to the data bank. Who wants to bet they are cross referencing with the homeland databases for unobtrusive security?
Over on the DL forum, they are reporting this week that there are huge lines backed up getting into the parks....... as they stop and photograph every guest entering the park today. Guests reported using their entire Magic Morning benefit....... standing in line.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:51 PM   #68
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After what we experienced from 12/28 - 1/5 Disney has a lot of kinks in the system to work on. Our room key was the new RFID key with charging being a touch to the new readers. The key worked getting into our room but charging, forget it. It worked once for me and once for my husband the entire trip. A cast member finally said to me, it is not your card but the readers, they just don't work well. Typical Disney, grand ideas but the system has problems.

Now they are adding the wristbands, which I will not wear but will have tucked away just as I do my room key which is easier to tuck away, and I have no doubt the readers will have also have problems reading the bands. I watched people enter at EPCOT using the touch readers and the cast members kept touching the cards because they were having problems with the readers not reading the room keys. If it is a flat plastic room card or a thick wrist band, the chip is the same and if the readers are having problems reading the chip it just doesn't matter what the guest uses, card or wristband.

My opinion on this subject: Disney tells us they are doing this to improve the guest experience: I don't buy it. It is a way Disney can gather information so they can learn how to market better to the guest or simple put how to improve sales. If they gather info in this manner they no longer will do the post stay surveys which means they can drop all of the people who work for Disney doing the surveys which saves Disney money. For business purposes, it makes sense.

This project is expensive, I watched the video posted in the thread. I still remember the wonderful new Stitch stage added to Tommorland. It was open what, 6 weeks or so and soon the stage show stopped. Who wants to stand in the blazing hot Florida sun and from what I read here on the DIS, the show was not that great. The only time I know the stage is used is for the extra night parties. That was a project that didn't work out.

Time will tell how all of this will play out. Maybe I will end up getting the RFID containers that block readers that travel companies sell so your RFID items are protected, not really but it is a thought. Kathy
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Maybe I will end up getting the RFID containers that block readers that travel companies sell so your RFID items are protected, not really but it is a thought. Kathy
Save your money, those "RFID protection" containers have proven to be completely ineffective.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #70
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The current KTTW cards have RFID in them though...
I get my tickets from UCT, but I suppose they could track me by my room key as I walk through the park but they wouldn't be able to track other things I do (purchases, dining, FP, etc) quite as easily.

I'm sure in addition to enhancing the guest's experience Disney will mine the data that they collect to better understand purchasing habits and then use text or email prompts to get you to either buy something while you are on site or order something after you are back home or perhaps they will structure special offers specific to your buying/eating/resort habits. Maybe, "if you go back to MouseGear in the next 20 minutes you can buy that Mickey shirt you picked up and didin't buy for 10% off" or " The line at Casey's is shorter now, you can go back and order something since you left without making a purchase". Smart business, but it makes me feel like I have an unwated shadow following me around.

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:09 PM   #71
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You have to opt into emails or texts or any sort of contact from Disney.

And if you don't link your UCT tickets to your room key, your room key wont work for admission and you don't get FP+.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:14 PM   #72
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You have to opt into emails or texts or any sort of contact from Disney.

And if you don't link your UCT tickets to your room key, your room key wont work for admission and you don't get FP+.
Okay, I'm not there today so I was speaking about previous trips, that they couldn't track me with UCT tickets versus having the tickets on the KTTW.

Perhaps you have to opt in today; but I'm not so naive to think that Disney is not going to utilize all of the information that they collect with this system and the best way to do that is with prompts while your in the park and if they do in a way that makes you feel like you're getting better service (restaraunt lines info) or a discount people will be accepting of being electronically followed. As a shareholder I applaud the idea. But as a guest I don't like it, yes I'm a hypocrite! All of these type of things are dual purpose, enhance the buying experience and gather data to increase sales.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:15 PM   #73
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I can't remember which one it was either. But I remember reading that. I think they said that option is gone on the WDW website.

I think if that's what I wanted, I'd be calling UT to see if they have any left. Because pretty soon it looks like they won't.
OMG, I L O V E my 10 day non expiring.

Is there any guess on how Disney will honor these. I have 10 day that I am using in March and again in August. Also I have plusses on an old ticket.

I think I better stock up OMG, really, REALLY wish I had the extra cash. Hoping to get 1 or 2 tickets for my family of 4.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #74
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I live locally and love the fact that my pass is always in my wallet and I can visit the parks whenever I want without much of a second thought. I'm cringing at the thought of having to keep track of my family's bracelets. I wonder when passholders will hear more?
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:51 PM   #75
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Will it be tied to your finger print? so let see,,,,gotta scan (as in the photo) then again gotta put your finger on the scanner,,,hmmmm equals more time
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