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Old 01-08-2013, 11:48 AM   #31
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Insiders are saying that Avatar is dead and instead AK is getting Dagobah and Naboo.
what insiders?
i read several disney boards and noone have said it was dead
struggling maybe but not dead
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:11 PM   #32
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You can always have, sigh, Jar Jar Binks I'm still excited for the SW stuff, but it doesn't really fit into AK (then again Avatar really didn't either).
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:53 PM   #33
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what insiders?
i read several disney boards and noone have said it was dead
struggling maybe but not dead
A pretty reliable source over at Orlando United recently posted that it was dead. Take it for what it's worth.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:34 PM   #34
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A pretty reliable source over at Orlando United recently posted that it was dead. Take it for what it's worth.
i did read that although they re sources are typically more uni stuff and the magic guys still say its a go..we will see

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Old 01-08-2013, 10:16 PM   #35
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If I recalled the head of parks and resorts was interviewed by one of Orlando major news stations during the FLE spoke about many new things comming to this property naming avatar land at DAK. I think it was WESH
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:26 PM   #36
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Avatar is already obsolete and out of date. Biggest movie of all time, but only because the price of a 3D movie is so high - that record won't stand forever. Might not even stand for a couple of years.

Avatar might be an interesting one-stop-spot if they go through with it, but it will not draw in the crowds. And it will not cause families to make a trip to WDW just to see it (especially not repeat customers the way WWoHP has).

If Disney wants to compete with WWoHP, they need something that is proven to stand the test of time. Because of the Star Wars purchase and the success of SWW, that's the gold mine. 30+ years and the fanbase is bigger than ever and always growing. Hollywood Studios desperately needs an update - perfect fit.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:44 PM   #37
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There is lots talk of cars land for dhs I would like to see a starwars land
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:59 AM   #38
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Avatar is already obsolete and out of date. Biggest movie of all time, but only because the price of a 3D movie is so high - that record won't stand forever. Might not even stand for a couple of years.

Avatar might be an interesting one-stop-spot if they go through with it, but it will not draw in the crowds. And it will not cause families to make a trip to WDW just to see it (especially not repeat customers the way WWoHP has).

If Disney wants to compete with WWoHP, they need something that is proven to stand the test of time. Because of the Star Wars purchase and the success of SWW, that's the gold mine. 30+ years and the fanbase is bigger than ever and always growing. Hollywood Studios desperately needs an update - perfect fit.
hey ashlee how did the avengers do at the box office? great of course (good movie) but it barley made half of what avatar made.... if star wars id the end all be all great IP how come when it reopened the lines were tiny barely a wait in summer..if avatars land will be good based on the the main E ticket you dont need the greatest story line

if story line mattered I vote for The Godfather to have a attraction

this is not a slam on Star wars because i hope to see a greater presence in the parks

i just get tired of people trying to discuss what may be in the land and somebody has to point out the same tired arguments why they dont want to see it

i say if you dont want to see it dont go to DAK or dont go to the land
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:59 PM   #39
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It's definitely not my favorite movie but I think this could have been neat, however doesn't look like it's happening now.
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I liked Avatar. Loved Star Wars. Still would prefer Beastly Kingdom. But please, not another Soarin. Long waits, no story, and definitely NOT a thrill ride.
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Avatar is already obsolete and out of date. Biggest movie of all time, but only because the price of a 3D movie is so high - that record won't stand forever. Might not even stand for a couple of years.

Avatar might be an interesting one-stop-spot if they go through with it, but it will not draw in the crowds. And it will not cause families to make a trip to WDW just to see it (especially not repeat customers the way WWoHP has).

If Disney wants to compete with WWoHP, they need something that is proven to stand the test of time. Because of the Star Wars purchase and the success of SWW, that's the gold mine. 30+ years and the fanbase is bigger than ever and always growing. Hollywood Studios desperately needs an update - perfect fit.
You're proposing Disney completely ignore how they've done business in the past. As great as WWoHP is, and I do think it's great, Disney absolutely should not start tilting at windmills now. They just need to RETURN to what Disney USED to do best, tell stories with absolute quality (the story is less important than how well it is told) and despite all of the rash trashing of Avatar around here, Avatar, or rather Pandora offers Disney imagineers all of the opportunity for a beautiful and spectacular land.

Universal is proving very good at what they do, let them do it. Their success is not any indictment on Disney nor can they ever challenge Disney's success head to head because of their limited size.

Avatar land, Star Wars land, Humpty Dumpty land, whatever. None can survive on their cache alone. All can succeed with QUALITY as their hallmark and in the scheme of things, as I pointed out, Pandora is a huge gift to Disney just waiting to be opened.
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Sometimes I think the reliance upon a movie or tv show for a theme, for a ride or an entire park can backfire. The focus should be on the EXPERIENCE one will receive and if done correctly, the 'story' or the 'theme' will sell itself. Heck, imangineers could come up with their own brand new story so long as the experience guests have is great. I don't care for Avatar, but if done right and the experience I receive makes me want to come back again and again, then I say go for it. However, if the experience is underwhelming, the rides only so-so, then the theming will not create the desire for me to spend my time there.
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Smile ~This thread is super fabulous!

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I know the future Avatar land is not popular amongst Disney fans. I think once its open it will be mind blowing.
~Yay! Great thread! I totally agree with you!!!

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Went to Fantasyland preview in Nov. what a boring bust that is. Very pretty but will never set foot in it again. IMHO a waste of space can only see interest in 6 or 7 and under. Mermaid like Nemo and the Story thing, would never wait again to do that. I hope the "roller coaster" is at least like Thunder but not hopeful
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I hope they call the area Pandora instead of Avatarland.
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hey ashlee
how did the avengers do at the box office? great of course (good movie) but it barley made half of what avatar made.... if star wars id the end all be all great IP how come when it reopened the lines were tiny barely a wait in summer..if avatars land will be good based on the the main E ticket you dont need the greatest story line

if story line mattered I vote for The Godfather to have a attraction

this is not a slam on Star wars because i hope to see a greater presence in the parks

i just get tired of people trying to discuss what may be in the land and somebody has to point out the same tired arguments why they dont want to see it

i say if you dont want to see it dont go to DAK or dont go to the land
~Fabulous post! I totally agree! Disney just created the New Fantasyland, people can just go there, instead! There are so many other wonderful options for everyone to enjoy.

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You're proposing Disney completely ignore how they've done business in the past. As great as WWoHP is, and I do think it's great, Disney absolutely should not start tilting at windmills now. They just need to RETURN to what Disney USED to do best, tell stories with absolute quality (the story is less important than how well it is told) and despite all of the rash trashing of Avatar around here, Avatar, or rather Pandora offers Disney imagineers all of the opportunity for a beautiful and spectacular land.

Universal is proving very good at what they do, let them do it. Their success is not any indictment on Disney nor can they ever challenge Disney's success head to head because of their limited size.

Avatar land, Star Wars land, Humpty Dumpty land, whatever. None can survive on their cache alone. All can succeed with QUALITY as their hallmark and in the scheme of things, as I pointed out, Pandora is a huge gift to Disney just waiting to be opened.
~Omg... this post is just fabulous & I could not agree more! I totally *love* this post, it's remarkably thoughtful & so beautifully expressed!!!
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...Avatar land, Star Wars land, Humpty Dumpty land, whatever. None can survive on their cache alone. All can succeed with QUALITY as their hallmark and in the scheme of things, as I pointed out, Pandora is a huge gift to Disney just waiting to be opened.
Exactly. Like the movie or not, Pandora was beautiful. As a matter of fact, as I was watching the movie for the first time, I saw those glowing flowers and plants, & the first thing I thought of was how Disney could do a great job a creating something like this in their park! I was thinking about Fantasyland, but seeing as how AK needs a nighttime area, Pandora's glowing gardens could be a nice flip side to the green of AK day time. A separate section they could block off at night to keep the guests away from the animals... and the park open later. Maybe even a restaurant along the lines of The Rainforest Cafe on steroid's.

I would like it to be the type of attraction that the whole family (age span) could do together and walk away from "wowed" by the beauty.
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