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Old 11-30-2012, 09:16 AM   #1171
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There are separate sections but the Cms let you go anywhere. Don't let them direct you to a viewing spot without comment. When they tell you where to go just tell them you would prefer a different area. Experience says they will say "no problem". Bottom line is if you know you can go anywhere you want then there is no difference to WCT vs CCR. If you do not know then there is a difference where the CMs direct you by default.

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Old 12-11-2012, 11:19 AM   #1172
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Just wanted to post in the thread to say that we saw WOC for the first time ever last night, and thanks to the instructions here we got a great spot right up front on the railing! We braved the "wet zone" for photographic purposes and it worked out great. Here's a quick edit of one of the shots, we've got hundreds more to sort through and edit! Thanks again to HydroGuy and everyone who's posted.


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Old 12-11-2012, 11:23 AM   #1173
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Just wanted to post in the thread to say that we saw WOC for the first time ever last night, and thanks to the instructions here we got a great spot right up front on the railing! We braved the "wet zone" for photographic purposes and it worked out great. Here's a quick edit of one of the shots, we've got hundreds more to sort through and edit! Thanks again to HydroGuy and everyone who's posted.


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Old 12-11-2012, 11:34 AM   #1174
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Did you do the Reserved Seating Dining Package?
For the most part that shouldn't be necessary. I remember going early and getting a FP at the rope drop. I thought I could get one for my wife who hasn't come through, and the machine rejected her ticket. We got there later (after 11 AM) and they still had blue section FPs for the same showing. Your mileage may vary.

We actually got there right before the starting time. We got close, and got even closer when several people at the railing moved back after they figured out they were going to get wet. The biggest issue I had wasn't getting wet per se but that I had a hard time seeing through my glasses when they were covered with the mist.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:26 PM   #1175
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Hey, I just realized I had not stopped in and updated this thread with our experience on Nov 19th.

We did lunch at Carthay Circle to get the preferred viewing. Paid almost $200 for lunch for 4 people (spendy, but it was a good experience... we enjoyed it). We requested tickets for the 2nd seating because we figured the crowds would be calmer the 2nd one. We showed up about 45 minutes early to the center entry for the Preferred area. The best way to envision this is there are people in the roped areas watching the show, then there is a wide pathway they are keeping open for park guests to get to the back part of the park, then there is a thin line of people watching the show from just in front of Ariel and all long the opposite side of this pathway they are keeping cleared. we stood at entry for about 5 minutes and a CM told us we needed to move because when people leave the first show we would get trampled. Asked where we should go to wait for 2nd show and was told to just walk farther down the path. We found a table where a gal as working on "Glow with the Ears" that weren't working and stood next to table so we would not be in anyone's way that was leaving 1st show. 5 minutes... new CM "You need to move to keep the path clear". Asked again where should we go, told to go even farther back towards the back part of the park past where the WoC starts near the little roller coaster. Went back there, then about 5-10 minutes before 1st show was over, we figured we would just start walking towards the area. Got back to entrance and asked where we could stand for 2nd show... "oh, that line always forms right across from the entrance right there sir... See that big line of 50+ people?" Hmm, 10 yards across the pathway from where we started. So we go get in line that was not there before when we asked the 1st time and wait our turn. They make us stand in this line while they clear out the former crowd. About 15 minute sin this line and about 5 minutes before they let us actually into the area, a group of about 75 people just walk right up to the entry and stand... right in front of all of us who have been waiting. They were business men in suits, elder couples, etc. To say things got heated would be an understatement... people at the front of our line started yelling at them, calling CM's over and demanding they move those people to the back of our line. The CM's assured them it was being taken care of. We watched as no less than 5 different CM's (starting with basic CM's and ending with clearly managers) spoke with this crowd that had now grown to over 100 people. I never saw a single person in that group respond to any of the CM's instructions, they just stared ahead or completely ignored them. Not one single person that I could see ever left that line, and not 1 CM did anything to correct it. So sure enough, they opened up the area and that group just waltzed right in and quickly took up all the prime spots. I knew from this wonderful thread to ask if I could go to the middle circle (they try to send CCR people to the right as soon as you enter the area), we went forward to the circle, only to find there was literally nothing good left there, so we went quickly back to the right side section but now all the spots at the rail were gone as well. We did manage, thanks to the kindness of others, to squeeze our 2 girls to rail since they were short.

It was a wonderful show, but unfortunately the "entitlement" cancer at DL made it tough to fully enjoy. SO what did I learn...

1) The info on this thread is amazingly helpful, thank you so much. This could have been much worse if we hadn't followed the hints here.

2) I wouldn't book the 2nd show again. Even though the crowds are smaller, the ability to actually "line up" without people just ignoring the line would be nice.

3) Maybe the 1st time is worth it to do Preferred, but we won't spend that kind of money for that kind of headache. Getting "first-come first-serve" spots was not the problem here... the problem was terrible instructions from the CM's (never once told us to line up right across from the entrance), and absolutely horrid crowd control. At least if I just get a FP for another section for free and don't get an optimum seat I won't be thinking "$200? For this?"

4) Even with less than optimum viewing (don't get me wrong, we did have decent view... not great but decent) this has to be our #1 Fav show at DL or WDW now!!!

5) I know it probably means absolutely nothing, but I have decided I am done just quietly sitting by and not voicing my frustrations to Disney over this clear policy that has existed for years... If a person will not abide by the rules, as long as it doesn't directly affect public safety, just let them do whatever they want. Better to not make a scene for that 1 rude individual than to respect the other 100+ people around them that are quietly obeying the rules because it is the right thing to do. I am sure I'm not the only one who has just looked the other way trying to just ignore their behavior and just "have a magical time" with my family. It is getting harder and harder to just ignore it, simply because the problem has seemingly become the norm.


Well thanks for all the great info in this thread, this show was amazing! Can't wait to go back and see it again! And believe me, the next experience will be much better... live and learn right?
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Old 12-13-2012, 12:21 AM   #1177
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Did you do the Reserved Seating Dining Package?
We didn't do the dining package, no. Just got a regular Fastpass in the morning (Blue) and lined up at 6:30 for the 8:15 show. The Cast Members were actually dissuading people from going down to the "wet zone", telling them to go one level up, but we knew better because of the DIS Boards!
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:32 PM   #1178
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but have browsed it pretty comprehensively over the last several months. From it, I had understood that if one were to want to go to the 2nd show on a night where there are two shows, they would need to regularly check in at the Fastpass distribution location until the 2nd show started to distribute.

Last Tuesday, 12/18/12, following that advice, I stopped by around 9:30 am to ask the CM on duty when she suggested I come back for 2nd show Fastpasses. She told me I could get them whenever I wanted. She took my park tickets and used them to print out 1st show Fastpasses as would normally be done. Then she printed a set of blank WOC Fastpasses (no showtime or color section on them), hand-wrote the info for the 2nd show on them, signed them, and then "exchanged" them in the computer system with the ones that had originally printed.

Just a heads up since I know the question has been brought up throughout the thread and since my experience is inconsistent with some of what has been discussed here.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:49 PM   #1179
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but have browsed it pretty comprehensively over the last several months. From it, I had understood that if one were to want to go to the 2nd show on a night where there are two shows, they would need to regularly check in at the Fastpass distribution location until the 2nd show started to distribute.

Last Tuesday, 12/18/12, following that advice, I stopped by around 9:30 am to ask the CM on duty when she suggested I come back for 2nd show Fastpasses. She told me I could get them whenever I wanted. She took my park tickets and used them to print out 1st show Fastpasses as would normally be done. Then she printed a set of blank WOC Fastpasses (no showtime or color section on them), hand-wrote the info for the 2nd show on them, signed them, and then "exchanged" them in the computer system with the ones that had originally printed.

Just a heads up since I know the question has been brought up throughout the thread and since my experience is inconsistent with some of what has been discussed here.
Thanks for the tip. I have seen this reported once by another forum member. So you make two. I will update the OP that this may be an option for second show guests.

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Old 12-24-2012, 10:16 PM   #1180
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but have browsed it pretty comprehensively over the last several months. From it, I had understood that if one were to want to go to the 2nd show on a night where there are two shows, they would need to regularly check in at the Fastpass distribution location until the 2nd show started to distribute.

Last Tuesday, 12/18/12, following that advice, I stopped by around 9:30 am to ask the CM on duty when she suggested I come back for 2nd show Fastpasses. She told me I could get them whenever I wanted. She took my park tickets and used them to print out 1st show Fastpasses as would normally be done. Then she printed a set of blank WOC Fastpasses (no showtime or color section on them), hand-wrote the info for the 2nd show on them, signed them, and then "exchanged" them in the computer system with the ones that had originally printed.

Just a heads up since I know the question has been brought up throughout the thread and since my experience is inconsistent with some of what has been discussed here.
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After following this thread and seeing WOC 4 times, I thought I had this show figured out. Not completely though. I have a question about the "Reserved Dining" section(s).

Our family watched the first showing WOC on 12/24 with dining FPs from WCT. We showed up a little over 1 hour before the 9pm show time and the only section open was the center reserved viewing area. The front rails were already taken so we stood on the stairs.

I wanted to get to the rails by the RED line on the this marked up map but that entire section was roped off. The CM told me that area is not available. I presumed it was wheel chairs but about 30 min before the show started, they opened that area up to premium dining!!!

Shouldn't that area be available on first come first served basis? Is this normal practice?





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Old 01-08-2013, 09:39 PM   #1182
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CMs may have been told to reserve that area for disabled guests or for another reason (after all, it was Christmas Eve), then later been told that it was all right to open that area up for other guests. Since CMs don't always know exactly how many PD guests to expect on any given night, the protocol is flexible, not hard and fast. On another night, that roped off area might have remained roped off. It depends on various factors.
And, as you discovered, HydroGuy's advice about allowing at least 90 minutes before the stated entry time on the FP is solid. The spots at the railings go very, very quickly.
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After following this thread and seeing WOC 4 times, I thought I had this show figured out. Not completely though. I have a question about the "Reserved Dining" section(s).

Our family watched the first showing WOC on 12/24 with dining FPs from WCT. We showed up a little over 1 hour before the 9pm show time and the only section open was the center reserved viewing area. The front rails were already taken so we stood on the stairs.

I wanted to get to the rails by the RED line on the this marked up map but that entire section was roped off. The CM told me that area is not available. I presumed it was wheel chairs but about 30 min before the show started, they opened that area up to premium dining!!!

Shouldn't that area be available on first come first served basis? Is this normal practice?




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Preferred Dining is the WOC dining package that can be purchased at the Wine Country Trattoria (lunch or dinner, although the viewing areas may differ between the two) and at Carthay Circle Restaurant. The WCT has prix fixe meals that come with a WOC FP. CCR lets you order a la carte (an appetizer, an entree, and a dessert per adult) and gives you a WOC FP if you request it. The viewing areas for PD are marked on the map in the first post of this thread and Preferred Dining is explained there, too.
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CMs may have been told to reserve that area for disabled guests or for another reason (after all, it was Christmas Eve), then later been told that it was all right to open that area up for other guests. Since CMs don't always know exactly how many PD guests to expect on any given night, the protocol is flexible, not hard and fast. On another night, that roped off area might have remained roped off. It depends on various factors.
And, as you discovered, HydroGuy's advice about allowing at least 90 minutes before the stated entry time on the FP is solid. The spots at the railings go very, very quickly.
OK, that makes sense. While I would have loved to have our kids on the rails, I can understand the CM's reasoning to hold these spots. Though it would have been better for the CMs to say they are holding that area for HC folks just in case instead of telling us that area isn't available.
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