Is there really smoking allowed? - The DIS Discussion Forums

mamamac · 01-07-2013, 11:03 PM

I just read that people can smoke on their verandahs. Is this true?? I'll be damned if I just paid $9,000 and my daughter sits out there and we have someone smoking next to us. Or better yet, someone has smoked in the room prior to us. That would really put a damper on the trip because she is an asthmatic and we've had her go down the tube just walking pass a group of smokers by the door at Target.

eyesing4u · 01-07-2013, 11:05 PM

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Bear3412 · 01-07-2013, 11:09 PM

From DCL site;

Disney Cruise Line has never allowed smoking in Guest staterooms. In addition, smoking is prohibited in all interior spaces throughout our ships. In an effort to provide a cruise experience that satisfies both our non-smoking and smoking Guests, smoking is permitted in designated areas of the ship.

On the Disney Magic and Disney Wonder, smoking is permitted on:

Private verandahs
Outdoors on Deck 4 starboard side from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. only
The starboard side open-air decks 9 and 10 (excluding the Mickey Pool area).

On the Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy, smoking is permitted on:

Stateroom verandahs
Deck 4 port side, aft, the outside Promenade Deck from 6:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.
Deck 12 port side, aft, the outdoor area that is accessible through the Meridian Lounge
Deck 13 port side, forward, by Currents Bar

Guests who are found smoking in their staterooms will be charged a $250 stateroom recovery fee. This fee covers deep cleaning that includes air filter replacement, carpet extraction and the cleaning and replacement of drapes, comforters, blankets and pillows.

Due to differences in size and the availability of some services while out at sea, our policies will sometimes differ slightly from similar ones at the Walt Disney World Resort. We have carefully considered which areas of our ships to designate as smoking and non-smoking, and we do periodically review our policies to ensure continued Guest satisfaction.

mamamac · 01-07-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eyesing4u

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I don't mean for this to be a heated debate, I just figured that the verandahs would be considered as part of the room. I can understand smoking sections like in the bar area or whatever it's called, but not all smokers are very considerate and that's what I am worried about.

mmouse37 · 01-07-2013, 11:11 PM

Yes, it is true. Smoking is not allowed IN staterooms but is allowed on verandahs. And people spending that same amount of money are probably thinking the same things...dang, I just spent all this money and now I can't even smoke on my verandah (if it was not allowed).

Going forward let's not turn this thread into a smoking/non smoking debate. It is allowed so smokers are allowed to be out there and smoke.

Choose a cabin more forward and you will have less people in front of you to potentially avoid drifting smoke. If it makes you feel better we have cruised in verandahs several times and only once had rude smoking neighbors. Most of the time it was fine and we never knew when people were smoking.

MJ

eyesing4u · 01-07-2013, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mamamac

I don't mean for this to be a heated debate, I just figured that the verandahs would be considered as part of the room. I can understand smoking sections like in the bar area or whatever it's called, but not all smokers are very considerate and that's what I am worried about.

Just a heads up then, if you don't want to rile people up, it's probably not wise to post how much you paid as if that has anything to do wuth DCL rules. It implies that because you paid more, you can circumvent the rules.

reagansmom · 01-07-2013, 11:16 PM

We had this problem on the last 2 cruises. DH went down to Guest Services towards the end of our 7 day cruise and asked them about it. They offered to move us, but we declined because it wasn't worth it with the little bit of time we had left, BUT we checked out our veranda before we even unpacked for our last cruise and found chain smokers next door. He went down to guest services and they moved us.

mamamac · 01-07-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mmouse37

If it makes you feel better we have cruised in verandahs several times and only once had rude smoking neighbors. Most of the time it was fine and we never knew when people were smoking.

MJ

That does make me feel better. Thanks!

WDW Princess 71 · 01-07-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear3412

From DCL site;

Guests who are found smoking in their staterooms will be charged a $250 stateroom recovery fee. This fee covers deep cleaning that includes air filter replacement, carpet extraction and the cleaning and replacement of drapes, comforters, blankets and pillows.

I wonder how long it takes to do this type of "deep cleaning" and "extraction/replacements"? Would the room still be ready for a 1:30 arrival? Seems like it would take quite a bit of work to freshen up such a confined space, especially an inside stateroom. Last year on our pre-cruise night at the hotel we stayed at in Jacksonville, I had booked a non-smoking room, and when we got to the room it had an odd smell. It wasn't obvious that it was from cigarettes though--it was masked with cleaning products so we just thought it was a weird smell and didn't mention anything or ask for a new room. Boy, did we regret that the next morning. It wasn't until we were out of the room the next day, and smell some of our belongings, that the stench of the cigarettes was embedded in our clothes/stuff. Thank goodness 90% of what we packed had been in the car and not in that room, since it was only 1 night pre-cruise we only carried 1 change of clothes inside. Next time we're ever in a room that smells even a little off, we'll be sure to move, as the hotel's effort to spray down the room clearly didn't work in this case.

Bear3412 · 01-07-2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WDW Princess 71

I wonder ......

As have I. They must send in the Hazmat crew and fog the place or something.
I do know on NCL they did this well. So .....

Billinaz · 01-07-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by reagansmom

We had this problem on the last 2 cruises. DH went down to Guest Services towards the end of our 7 day cruise and asked them about it. They offered to move us, but we declined because it wasn't worth it with the little bit of time we had left, BUT we checked out our veranda before we even unpacked for our last cruise and found chain smokers next door. He went down to guest services and they moved us.

They should have moved THEM, not you.

Namsupak · 01-07-2013, 11:54 PM

They do try to sell all the rooms, but I do believe that they have a few that they keep in reserve for possible problems, for example unresolvable maintenance issues or even this smoking issue. Perhaps if this is the case, they leave the smoked in room as a "reserve" room and take the time to clean it.

thedonduck · 01-07-2013, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Billinaz

They should have moved THEM, not you.

Why they aren't breaking any rules... The people moved were the ones with an issue?

EPCOTatNight · 01-08-2013, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eyesing4u

Just a heads up then, if you don't want to rile people up, it's probably not wise to post how much you paid as if that has anything to do wuth DCL rules. It implies that because you paid more, you can circumvent the rules.

It doesn't imply that to me. Nowhere in the OP's post did I read that they wanted to get around the rules. And, whether you like it or not, the price does make a difference to some.

kcashner · 01-08-2013, 12:11 AM

it has rarely been a problem for us. However, I never thought of checking out the neighbors before unpacking--that's actually a good idea!

They definitely maintain a few open staterooms in various categories even on a "sold out" cruise. We had a repair issue that couldn't be resolved (after having the dudes in our cabin for 2 full days)...so they moved us. This despite it being supposedly a full cruise.

01-07-2013, 11:03 PM	#1
mamamac Mouseketeer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: St. Louis Posts: 397	Is there really smoking allowed? I just read that people can smoke on their verandahs. Is this true?? I'll be damned if I just paid $9,000 and my daughter sits out there and we have someone smoking next to us. Or better yet, someone has smoked in the room prior to us. That would really put a damper on the trip because she is an asthmatic and we've had her go down the tube just walking pass a group of smokers by the door at Target. __________________ Sarah 4/2002 - Family Reunion at Contemporary 5/2009 - Family fun with neighbors and inlaws at Windsor Hills 5/2010 - A "Re-do of the Re-do Vacation" at Wilderness Lodge 5/2011 - Contemporary with Oma and Opa June 2013 Looking forward to our first cruise with the family!

01-07-2013, 11:05 PM	#2
eyesing4u DVC Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 101	Subscribing to this one and getting my popcorn ready! __________________

01-07-2013, 11:11 PM	#5
mmouse37 Mickey for Me! Likes surprises Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Too far from the Magic!! Posts: 25,037	Yes, it is true. Smoking is not allowed IN staterooms but is allowed on verandahs. And people spending that same amount of money are probably thinking the same things...dang, I just spent all this money and now I can't even smoke on my verandah (if it was not allowed). Going forward let's not turn this thread into a smoking/non smoking debate. It is allowed so smokers are allowed to be out there and smoke. Choose a cabin more forward and you will have less people in front of you to potentially avoid drifting smoke. If it makes you feel better we have cruised in verandahs several times and only once had rude smoking neighbors. Most of the time it was fine and we never knew when people were smoking. MJ __________________ 29 DCL Cruises and Counting! - Sailed on the official Maiden Voyage of the Magic (July 30, 1998) and official Maiden Voyage of the Dream (January 26, 2011)“DON'T BE SAD IT'S OVER, BE HAPPY IT HAPPENED!!

01-07-2013, 11:54 PM	#12
Namsupak DIS Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,798	They do try to sell all the rooms, but I do believe that they have a few that they keep in reserve for possible problems, for example unresolvable maintenance issues or even this smoking issue. Perhaps if this is the case, they leave the smoked in room as a "reserve" room and take the time to clean it. __________________ Lauren Married May 26, 2008 Epcot's Japan/Adventurer's Club/Living Seas Salon DD Lorelei Born July 30, 2009, Jameson Born Sept 15, 2012 WDW: 1998, March 2002, Dec 2006, Dec 2007, May 2008, Sept 2008, Dec 2009, Sept 2010, Jan 2011, July 2011, Jan 2012, Feb 2012, Aug 2012, Dec 2012 DCL: June 2008, Feb 2009, Dec 2009, Nov 2010, Jan 2011 (MV Dream), WBTA Sept 2011, Dec 2011, NYE Dream 2011-12, Jan 2012, March 2012 MV Fantasy, Dec 2012 Fantasy DLP: Sept 5, 2011 Coming Up: May 2013 WBPC, Dec 2013 Fantasy

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01-07-2013, 11:09 PM	#3
Bear3412 DIS Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: No. VA Posts: 2,511	From DCL site; Disney Cruise Line has never allowed smoking in Guest staterooms. In addition, smoking is prohibited in all interior spaces throughout our ships. In an effort to provide a cruise experience that satisfies both our non-smoking and smoking Guests, smoking is permitted in designated areas of the ship. On the Disney Magic and Disney Wonder, smoking is permitted on: Private verandahs Outdoors on Deck 4 starboard side from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. only The starboard side open-air decks 9 and 10 (excluding the Mickey Pool area). On the Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy, smoking is permitted on: Stateroom verandahs Deck 4 port side, aft, the outside Promenade Deck from 6:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. Deck 12 port side, aft, the outdoor area that is accessible through the Meridian Lounge Deck 13 port side, forward, by Currents Bar Guests who are found smoking in their staterooms will be charged a $250 stateroom recovery fee. This fee covers deep cleaning that includes air filter replacement, carpet extraction and the cleaning and replacement of drapes, comforters, blankets and pillows. Due to differences in size and the availability of some services while out at sea, our policies will sometimes differ slightly from similar ones at the Walt Disney World Resort. We have carefully considered which areas of our ships to designate as smoking and non-smoking, and we do periodically review our policies to ensure continued Guest satisfaction.

01-07-2013, 11:16 PM	#7
reagansmom Mouseketeer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 277	We had this problem on the last 2 cruises. DH went down to Guest Services towards the end of our 7 day cruise and asked them about it. They offered to move us, but we declined because it wasn't worth it with the little bit of time we had left, BUT we checked out our veranda before we even unpacked for our last cruise and found chain smokers next door. He went down to guest services and they moved us.

01-08-2013, 12:11 AM	#15
kcashner DIS Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 33,275	it has rarely been a problem for us. However, I never thought of checking out the neighbors before unpacking--that's actually a good idea! They definitely maintain a few open staterooms in various categories even on a "sold out" cruise. We had a repair issue that couldn't be resolved (after having the dudes in our cabin for 2 full days)...so they moved us. This despite it being supposedly a full cruise.