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Old 01-04-2013, 11:20 AM   #151
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Great update, Andy. I just hate when ignorant people who show up at the last minute think they can squeeze into any spot so they can have a view of the parade, blocking those that had been waiting as they should be (we had a similar situation at the Christmas parade and Mark got up from his spot just as the parade was going to start to let two kids sit who were standing behind me at first and were "squished out" by some overzealous morons.

Despite not having your camera, your pictures of the parade turned out pretty well.

We've eaten at Casey's only once in all the years we have been going to Disney. I get really bad heartburn from their hot dogs and definitely do NOT like corn nuggets or whatever they are.

Glad you got some rides in before you called it a night. Glad that DS ended up enjoing his pirate adventure. And you are at Disney...it's a requirement to get into a sword fight with someone.

A good night's rest was probably what you needed with the rugrats at your resort.
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Wow, rude people were just drawn to you that day!!! I hate parade spot poachers. I feel like telling them, "Yes, although I got here early and found a spot appropriately sized for my family to have a good view of the parade, feel free to march up at the last second and encroach on our space." That seems like a great little spot to see it though! We tried it out from Frontierland this time, and found a spot where people really couldn't crowd in around us, so it was really great! The nighttime parade is so much more enjoyable to me now with DS.

We ate at Casey's for the very first time this year, and I was pleasantly surprised!

Love the pics of your DS on the Carpets. He looks so excited!!
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Rude people at parades can really take the fun out of everything. It's amazing how fast your blood pressure can go up, right? And then later you had to swim upstream to Adventureland. But you didn't get arrested for assault, so that's a win!

One of these days your son will like that cannon-battle scene in PotC. I know it's my favorite.

Sounds like the rest of the family really got a lot done that night.

Looking forward to more!
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Sometimes I don't understand people's logic... In Nov. there was a family sitting on a blanket right at the rope for the parade. We there was a spot next to them and pulled the stroller right up. When the parade started they got up and were leaning over and moving forward so I had to hold Juliana for the entire parade for her to see. I guess it is their right to stand but they obstructed more than just our view for the parade.

Sounds like you guys had a great night in MK!
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The joys of MK parades. It seems like nobody can go through a WDW trip without encountering some rude family trying to push their way into a good seat. I'm not even ashamed to say that I was happy reading about your choice to move the other family's kids in front of your stroller. Love when us polite parade-viewers passive aggresively stick it to rude guests.


An orange swirl Dole Whip sounds really good! Might have to break away from my obligatory pineapple flavor to try one of those one day.
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DS finally woke up from what amounted to an almost 3 hour nap!
Epic snoozing!
He should be ready for a nice long evening outing.


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We didn’t have much of a wait before we were on a monorail and on our way to the MK. We had just left the station when we came to a sudden stop. The recording about waiting on clearance or something started to play when someone came over the PA and sternly warned everyone not to lean on the doors, because it will cause the monorail to come to a sudden stop. Never heard that one before…
That’s a new one on me as well.
Good thing who ever it was didn’t succeed in falling out or they’d have been shutting down the whole monorail loop for quite some time.


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but we quickly found a spot in front of the Fire Station next to a lamp post right behind a couple who were sitting on the curb. We parked the stroller behind them right between the tape line and the lamp post. There was no way anyone would be able to crowd in here…
Somehow, I got’s me doubts.
Never underestimate the capacity of people to be rude.

But I suspect you already know that, otherwise you wouldn’t have had to set that one up.

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There was absoultely no room next to our stroller, but they somehow managed to cram their way in there. Their son was literally draped over the side of our stroller practically sitting on DS’s lap.
Like I said…


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Andy restores balance to the force.


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I managed to get a few parade pictures, but again, I don’t think we even bothered to bring the camera that evening with the problems we were having with it, so all I have are crappy cell phone pictures.
Which still beats my really crappy lack of pictures from when we weren’t at Disney at any point in the last year…


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The parade was still going through that part of Main Street, and surprisingly, the lines at Casey’s were absolutely deserted.
You saw the whole parade and were still able to use the same parade against the rest of the folks to gain easy access to Casey’s.


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Nah, who am I kidding? The only one of those scenarios I considered was turning the stroller into a battering ram.



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We went through the gift shop where someone was unable to keep his hands off the conveniently located swords they have all over the place.

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No, I’m not talking about DS, I’m talking about BiL.
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The report back from everyone else was that they did Monsters Inc., Buzz, It’s a Small World, Haunted Mansion and Thunder Mountain. Not a bad use of some evening EMH time.

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The recording about waiting on clearance or something started to play when someone came over the PA and sternly warned everyone not to lean on the doors, because it will cause the monorail to come to a sudden stop. Never heard that one before, but I’m going to guess that someone had just leaned on a monorail door for the last time.
I'd be scared to lean against the doors, just out of principle.

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There was no way anyone would be able to crowd in here…
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Just before the parade started another family comes running up. Mom, dad, 2 kids. They crammed right into the area where we were standing. Dad is complaining trying to get them to just leave. Mom is arguing that they have a few minutes before they need to get a monorail, and it won’t hurt anybody to sit there and watch part of the parade.
Except, you know, the people who are already occupying that space.

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This allowed them to see the parade while at the same time blocking the 2 kids from the rude family. It may have been a dirty trick, but what goes around comes around. I slept fine. I guess they either got the hint or decided it was finally time to catch their monorail, because they left.
Not dirty, just fighting fire with fire.

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It was ridiculous. I was seriously contemplating either using the stroller as a weapon, or taking the kids out and just carrying them and the stroller through the crowd.

Nah, who am I kidding? The only one of those scenarios I considered was turning the stroller into a battering ram.
That's what I figured. I sometimes imagine doing that even if there aren't huge crowds.

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When we got to the end of the ride, the CM there was singing along with the music. She actually had a very nice singing voice and was just singing along and then changing various lyrics to basically tell everybody to get out of the boat. It was great to see a CM having fun with her job and was just a little bit of extra magic.
Cute. Full points for creativity.

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We went through the gift shop where someone was unable to keep his hands off the conveniently located swords they have all over the place. No, I’m not talking about DS, I’m talking about BiL. He and I may or may not have had an impromptu sword fight in the middle of the gift shop.
Sounds like it wasn't just your BiL that had the problem.
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Uggghh. Rude parade people are the worst! Glad that you managed to squeeze them out.

Too bad you weren't able to take full advantage of EMH, but it sounds like a good night's sleep was needed.
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Great update, Andy. I just hate when ignorant people who show up at the last minute think they can squeeze into any spot so they can have a view of the parade, blocking those that had been waiting as they should be (we had a similar situation at the Christmas parade and Mark got up from his spot just as the parade was going to start to let two kids sit who were standing behind me at first and were "squished out" by some overzealous morons.
Almost as annoying as those pool hogging cheerleaders...

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Despite not having your camera, your pictures of the parade turned out pretty well.
Thanks. I didn't think they were too horrible for operating a phone with one hand while holding a kid.

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We've eaten at Casey's only once in all the years we have been going to Disney. I get really bad heartburn from their hot dogs and definitely do NOT like corn nuggets or whatever they are.
I actually don't recall having ever been there before this trip. We actually just ate there out of convenience that evening, but I actually liked it.

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Glad you got some rides in before you called it a night. Glad that DS ended up enjoing his pirate adventure. And you are at Disney...it's a requirement to get into a sword fight with someone.
Sounds like a good rule to me!

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A good night's rest was probably what you needed with the rugrats at your resort.
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Wow, rude people were just drawn to you that day!!! I hate parade spot poachers. I feel like telling them, "Yes, although I got here early and found a spot appropriately sized for my family to have a good view of the parade, feel free to march up at the last second and encroach on our space." That seems like a great little spot to see it though! We tried it out from Frontierland this time, and found a spot where people really couldn't crowd in around us, so it was really great! The nighttime parade is so much more enjoyable to me now with DS.
I really like watching from Frontierland, but since we were coming in so late, we thought it would be easiest to just stay near the entrance if we could find a good spot. I actually loved the location. We got to see the floats from the front as they came out, then see them go past us and around the corner.

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We ate at Casey's for the very first time this year, and I was pleasantly surprised!
They could probably use a little less bun with the chili dogs though.

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Love the pics of your DS on the Carpets. He looks so excited!!
He was. He loved Dumbo and all of his clones.

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Rude people at parades can really take the fun out of everything. It's amazing how fast your blood pressure can go up, right? And then later you had to swim upstream to Adventureland. But you didn't get arrested for assault, so that's a win!
Yeah, all in all a good night. I kept calm and didn't do anything illegal.

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Me too. Well, second favorite anyway. Hard to top the jail scene with the dog.

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Sounds like the rest of the family really got a lot done that night.

Looking forward to more!
Yes, they definitely did. I can believe it though, the closing time for day guests was 10 pm, I believe. Even though we left just before 10, we could already tell the crowd was thinning. I'm sure the lines were all very short during EMH.
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Sometimes I don't understand people's logic... In Nov. there was a family sitting on a blanket right at the rope for the parade. We there was a spot next to them and pulled the stroller right up. When the parade started they got up and were leaning over and moving forward so I had to hold Juliana for the entire parade for her to see. I guess it is their right to stand but they obstructed more than just our view for the parade.

Sounds like you guys had a great night in MK!
It seems like you can't go to a parade without something like that happening. That's why I really hate wasting valuable time by camping out really early for a good spot. It just makes it that much more annoying when you have all that time invested in it.

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The joys of MK parades. It seems like nobody can go through a WDW trip without encountering some rude family trying to push their way into a good seat. I'm not even ashamed to say that I was happy reading about your choice to move the other family's kids in front of your stroller. Love when us polite parade-viewers passive aggresively stick it to rude guests.
Thanks, it felt good to win that one!

I actually felt bad for the other kids, but I was glad we were able to get them up there with a good view of the parade.


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An orange swirl Dole Whip sounds really good! Might have to break away from my obligatory pineapple flavor to try one of those one day.
It is very good. It was recommended by one of the DisDads and has actually been dubbed "the Nate" after the dad that discovered it. I did make one mistake though, the Nate is supposed to be a float.

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Epic snoozing!
He should be ready for a nice long evening outing.
But most importantly, not in a grumpy mood.

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That’s a new one on me as well.
Good thing who ever it was didn’t succeed in falling out or they’d have been shutting down the whole monorail loop for quite some time.
No kidding. I don't think we'd have made the 9pm parade, let alone the 7pm one.

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Somehow, I got’s me doubts.
Never underestimate the capacity of people to be rude.

But I suspect you already know that, otherwise you wouldn’t have had to set that one up.
Well duh! It is a Disney parade we're talking about here.

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It was a very moment... Although when they crowded I wanted to be a little more

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Which still beats my really crappy lack of pictures from when we weren’t at Disney at any point in the last year…
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You saw the whole parade and were still able to use the same parade against the rest of the folks to gain easy access to Casey’s.


The force was strong with you
Hadn't thought about it that way, but yes.

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Riiiight…
Like you didn’t join in on this one
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Famous last words.
Don't we all know that feeling. You always work to keep a defensible position for a parade, and someone always tries to encroach up on it.

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Except, you know, the people who are already occupying that space.
We paid all this money to be here. I wish these stupid people would just get out of our way so we can see the parade.

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That's what I figured. I sometimes imagine doing that even if there aren't huge crowds.
Honestly, the first thought that was running through my head was "I wonder what kind of thread I might see pop up on the Disboards if I just start leveling people with a double stroller."

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Cute. Full points for creativity.
Definitely! It was a nice little extra touch.

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Sounds like it wasn't just your BiL that had the problem.
We're too much alike. And that isn't always a good thing.

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Uggghh. Rude parade people are the worst! Glad that you managed to squeeze them out.
True, but it wouldn't be Disney without them.

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Too bad you weren't able to take full advantage of EMH, but it sounds like a good night's sleep was needed.
I would have definitely loved to have gotten more park time that night, but we really needed some rest. No meltdowns had occurred, but DW and I were both starting to get a little bit irritable that afternoon. Some downtime and rest was just what we needed.
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It's true. That's exactly what my business deals with. forensic engineering. Stupid people using things as they shouldn't be used keep us in business. That and mother nature. Occasionally it really is the manufacturers, or property owner, or contractors fault but it truly is mind boggling some of the things people try to do.

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I was the biggest geek ever at his interview. I got to interview an Imagineer! LOL. It is cool to chat with him about what he's worked on, he did some pretty major stuff for both companies. He'll chat my ear off though, this week it was all about the logistics of laying ride track when underground piping hadn't been laid deep enough to withstand the weight of the crane they'd need to be able to use above the piping, get the track in and all the various workarounds (and cost overruns). Pretty fascinating stuff.
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UGH on the rude family, I am glad they left and happy you were able to let a few other kids get closer, I'm always so touched when people do that for the E's.

I've still never been to Casey's or Aloha Isle, one of these days I swear!

Sounds like a great evening, you really got a lot done I think despite the crowds and still had time for baths, a beer and a lovely lobby photo!
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I was the biggest geek ever at his interview. I got to interview an Imagineer! LOL. It is cool to chat with him about what he's worked on, he did some pretty major stuff for both companies. He'll chat my ear off though, this week it was all about the logistics of laying ride track when underground piping hadn't been laid deep enough to withstand the weight of the crane they'd need to be able to use above the piping, get the track in and all the various workarounds (and cost overruns). Pretty fascinating stuff.
Yeah, I'm kind of a nerd about that stuff too. It would be interesting to hear some of those stories.

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UGH on the rude family, I am glad they left and happy you were able to let a few other kids get closer, I'm always so touched when people do that for the E's.
It helps that they were really nice. DW had been chatting with the mom from that family and they were all really nice. Their kids were even playing with DS a little bit before the parade. I'm definitely going to try to help someone like that out if I can. Especially at the expense of the rude ones!

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I've still never been to Casey's or Aloha Isle, one of these days I swear!
Truthfully, I'd never been to Aloha Isle before last year, and I believe this was my first ever meal at Casey's.

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Sounds like a great evening, you really got a lot done I think despite the crowds and still had time for baths, a beer and a lovely lobby photo!
It was definitely a nice evening. We really just wanted to see MSEP and Wishes since it was the only night we'd be able too. The rest was just bonus!
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