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Old 12-17-2012, 06:04 PM   #781
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I did watch maybe a dozen episodes of The Facts of Life back in the 80s, but if the producers hadn't said who Lisa was, I'd never had known it was "Blair." I never really knew the actress's name.

Same with Jeff Kent. Though I remember him playing, I wouldn't recognize his face outside of baseball.

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My DH and I knew exactly who she was. We're in our early to mid-50's and I watched every episode during it's first run. It's not just the age of the show, but the fact that it wasn't shown in syndication the way other shows have been.

Also, there were more than 2 people who knew. Skupin , Denise, Penner, Jeff Kent all knew from what I remember seeing. It was mainly the players under 35 who had no clue.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:10 AM   #782
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I wasn't surprised that Denise won.

I would have liked to see Malcolm and Denise team up and take Lisa out of the final three and battle it out in end for the final Sole Survivor.

I couldn't believe Lisa won the Fan Favorite. They gave her a ton of face time on the show, which I never understood.
I finally got to watch it last night. Of course missed 1/2 the reunion because we only DVR'd for an extra hour past the regular time but at least I got to see the show and a chunk of the reunion.

I really wanted Malcolm to win and was bummed that he got voted out. I also wish that he and Denise had teamed up to vote off Lisa and forced a tie breaker. Good chance that both of them could have ended up in the final 3. I was a fan of Denise and Malcolm the whole way through so I am very happy that Denise won and I think that she deserves it. She managed to go to every single tribal council on 3 different tribes and made it all the way to the end to win it all. I think that is pretty impressive.

Sorry to say but Lisa would never have made it as far as she did if her tribe had went to tribal council even once in those earlier days, remember her crying at the well cause she couldn't fit in with the younger crowd?! I am really surprised that she was a fan favorite. She did get way more face time than any of the other survivors and her constant crying and going on and on about loyalty.

At the final tribal council I do wish Penner hadn't outed Lisa. I thought that was a petty thing to do. I really don't think that she would have won anyway but he should have just let her keep her secret till the end. I also agree that RC's uncomfortable laugh was irritating and with all the sneering that Abi was doing I was really expecting her to be a lot more vicious but she surprised me.

Anyway happy to have watched another Survivor and looking for the next one. Haven't missed a single episode since it started and hoping for many more years.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:21 PM   #783
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Denise deserved the win. I know everyone was a fan of Malcolm, and so was I for most of the season. But at the end, he turned his back on Denise more than once, and I believe she was going to stay true to their alliance to the end until she realized he wanted her gone. He attacked her at the final tribal, and was pretty bitter. For what? Voting him off?
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:56 PM   #784
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Denise deserved the win. I know everyone was a fan of Malcolm, and so was I for most of the season. But at the end, he turned his back on Denise more than once, and I believe she was going to stay true to their alliance to the end until she realized he wanted her gone. He attacked her at the final tribal, and was pretty bitter. For what? Voting him off?
Yes, for voting him off.

As a woman named Alli once said, the most common thing said at the final tribal council is:

"My question is: YOU SUCK."
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:12 PM   #785
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Yes, for voting him off.

As a woman named Alli once said, the most common thing said at the final tribal council is:

"My question is: YOU SUCK."
I liked how Denise pretty much turned that around on the jury when giving her opening statement. Basically, "all of you suck, and I'm still here, so give me the million." And it worked.

(Or at least it didn't change the minds of the majority of the jury who had already decided to award Denise the win.)

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Old 12-20-2012, 03:11 PM   #786
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Yeah I really don't get the bitterness, are these people really this selfish and immature. It seems every season almost all the jurors save 1 or 2 are bitter and angry. Hello, its a game, where you have to vote people off. Especially in situations like Malcolm LOL, oh so your bitter because Denise voted you off? Hmmm didn't you write HER name down too. People can be so petty and small minded IMO.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:32 PM   #787
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Yeah I really don't get the bitterness, are these people really this selfish and immature. It seems every season almost all the jurors save 1 or 2 are bitter and angry. Hello, its a game, where you have to vote people off. Especially in situations like Malcolm LOL, oh so your bitter because Denise voted you off? Hmmm didn't you write HER name down too. People can be so petty and small minded IMO.
Malcolm explained in interviews that the final tribal happened only 2 hours after he was voted off, so he wasn't really angry with Denise he was still trying to get over the fact that he was voted off. I think some of the other jury members were bitter because they were mostly tandang members that didn't like Lisa and Skupin from the beginning and were mad that they made it to the end.
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:22 PM   #788
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Malcolm explained in interviews that the final tribal happened only 2 hours after he was voted off, so he wasn't really angry with Denise he was still trying to get over the fact that he was voted off. I think some of the other jury members were bitter because they were mostly tandang members that didn't like Lisa and Skupin from the beginning and were mad that they made it to the end.
Wait...how is that possible?
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:37 PM   #789
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Wait...how is that possible?
i don't know. i may be mistaken about the exact time but he claims that it was only a few hours from the time he was voted out and the final tribal.
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i don't know. i may be mistaken about the exact time but he claims that it was only a few hours from the time he was voted out and the final tribal.
Didn't they have the final challenge, then go to tribal, vote Malcolm out and then have a full day with the winners lunch the next day and then final tribal that night?
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Didn't they have the final challenge, then go to tribal, vote Malcolm out and then have a full day with the winners lunch the next day and then final tribal that night?
That's the way it played on tv, but Malcolm said it was a few hours.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:37 PM   #792
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Denise deserved the win. I know everyone was a fan of Malcolm, and so was I for most of the season. But at the end, he turned his back on Denise more than once, and I believe she was going to stay true to their alliance to the end until she realized he wanted her gone. He attacked her at the final tribal, and was pretty bitter. For what? Voting him off?
Was glad to see him come to his senses by the reunion & blame his loss on "the Penner school of losing Survivor" or however it was that he put that
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I liked how Denise pretty much turned that around on the jury when giving her opening statement. Basically, "all of you suck, and I'm still here, so give me the million." And it worked.

(Or at least it didn't change the minds of the majority of the jury who had already decided to award Denise the win.)

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Yeah, I've always wondered why more people don't do that - she pretty much nailed it though.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:21 PM   #794
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I watched the reunion on the Jeff Props shows, again all about Lisa :/
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:51 AM   #795
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Was glad to see him come to his senses by the reunion & blame his loss on "the Penner school of losing Survivor" or however it was that he put that
I LOVED that line! "A page out of Penner's book, How to Lose Survivor"

Brilliant! So true, lol.
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