|12-05-2012, 07:12 AM||#16|
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: near DLP, France
is Seaworld really targeting the younger ones to make $7 more bucks ?
feeding the dolphins is a wonderful experience for a 7 years old.
But on a broader spectrum, when is young too young ?
I know some 30 years old who can't follow basic rules ... you've seen them too, many times, in the parks, queue jumping, smoking, littering, you name it ... or people who think they're too smart and the safety guidelines do not apply to them ...
Does this means that, because some people can't behave, it's the park's responsibility to forbid the activity for everyone else ? Can we really blame them, arguing that it's all for the money ?
it's a wide subject ...
is it the park's responsibility to check the health record of a guest against heart or other conditions to ensure this guest is able to ride ?
The world where seaworld is held responsible for this accident is a world where, next time you go buy a hamburger at a quick service, you'll need to provide a medical certificate proving that your cholesterol level and blood pressure are within reasonable range, so that you do not risk a heart attack as a result of eating a high calories, high fat and salt burger ...
A world where restaurants will refuse to serve you a dish because they fear you might sue them in case you do not digest it properly.
Note that in 2002 the British High Court rejected a complaint from 36 UK citizens against mcdonalds for coffee burns. The Judge ruled that it was not McD's responsibility to warn people that hot coffee was ... hot ...
In that light, there are plenty of warnings at seaworld. Failure to comply is the sole responsibility of the person not complying. Or, in the case of children, it's the responsibility of the guardian/parent to make sure the kid complies.
Very recentely, a man sued Disneyworld arguing that the Tower of Terror was too violent a ride, and the violence of that ride was not advertised properly ...
should we close ToT down because it's too intense for some guests ? is it the responsibility of Disney to prevent these guests from riding, after all Disney's making money off these guests' admission ticket and the ride is part of what the guest is entitled to ...
or is it the guest's responsibility to evaluate if he/she is able to handle the situation and respect the rules ?
There is no end to this issue, because where it gets to is a place where nothing is allowed, for fear that someone will have an accident or will not be able to handle a situation.
Here we're a bit far from the issue we're discussing here. But blaming Seaworld for allowing kids to feed the dolphins despite the risks, invariably leads, in the thought process, to a world where there is nothing left to do, and where the "autorithy" thinks and acts in your name and on your behalf, to protect you from yourself.
It's not the world I want to live in ...
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|12-05-2012, 09:25 AM||#17|
Join Date: Sep 2011
I totally agree with almost everything which has been said.
Dolphins are beautiful majestic animals, but seriously anyone who cant grasp the fact they could bite you is not quite the full ticket.
Yes the dolphins are trained - To an extent but they are a wild animal and will inevitably follow their natural instincts - ESPECIALLY where food is involved.
If that were my child I would have been making damn sure that dish didnt leave the side! You can think you have the smartest kid in the world but filled with excitment kids (and adults) can be stupid!
I feel sorry for the kid I really do, she didnt deserve to get bitten. However neither Seaworld or the dolphin deserves to be persecuted because someone "flouted" the rules.
That being said I dont think we should all "blame the parents" - Not totally, everyone "bends" the rules. because we are of the mindset that "it'll never happen to me"
I dont get why people feel the need to sue everyone - what happened to "oh well just one of those things" Esp when you did something you shouldnt
Its not like it bit her arm off, just left a couple of puncture wounds, and she will always be able to say hey i was that kids that got bit by a dolphin - a war wound to be proud of in years to come lol!
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|12-05-2012, 06:20 PM||#18|
Join Date: Mar 2011
I took part in this attraction on our recent trip with my DH and 2 DD's aged 5 and 13. You are told repeatedly, not, under any circumstances, to pick up the white tray as the dolphin WILL lunge for it and probably bite. Therefore I see this video as in support of Seaworld really as, to me, it just highlights why they put these safety rules in place. Not adhering to them on this occasion caused exactly what they said would happen to happen.
It was a great experience and I would not hesitate to do it again with my kids.
|12-06-2012, 02:50 AM||#19|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester, UK
I'm not defending the parents but I just think if SeaWorld are fully conscious to the point of repeatedly stressing, that the dolphins may well bite, then it's an attraction too far. That's all.
It must have been immensely stressful for the dolphin as no doubt there was a lot of commotion caused when it did bite and possible subsequent restrictions ie no doubt it was segregated and not allowed in the public pool it was used to for a while. As with the performing whales that think the trainers are playthings, maybe it's time to focus on more natural aquarium type exhibits rather than one-to-one interactions and "shows".
|12-06-2012, 03:08 AM||#20|
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Dewsbury, UK
The chances of it happening are so small though. Especially if guidelines are stuck to.
If we stop something like then do we stop things like owning dogs? far more injuries & deaths with dogs than Dolphins, stop kids walking on logs(reason DS broke his arm) how far do you go?
Most things we do in life has a risk.
I am not big fan of dolphins but if its a one off incident I don't see anything wrong with what they are doing.
|12-06-2012, 11:11 AM||#21|
Join Date: Feb 2012
also may i just add if it had been one of my children injured the camera would have been dropped in a instant so i could attend to my child rather than forcing filming the injury ( i found that part of the clip most uncomfortable to watch)
i do hope that occasional incidents don't put an end to this attraction as i love it and think how many other people do feed them without getting bitten , unfortunatley its always negative publicity and complaints that people can be most bothered to voice people don't come home from there trip to seaworld and decide to post a video saying i fed the dolpin and DIDNT get bitten if they did then the number of positive experiences would hugely outweigh the negatives
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|12-06-2012, 12:02 PM||#22|
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Compensation ......... Springs to mind!!!!!!!! Guess I shouldn't be so judgemental
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|12-06-2012, 02:14 PM||#23|
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There is a legal principle called 'Volenti non fit injuria'. Basically, somebody willingly taking risks knowing about them. SeaWorld have told everybody the risks, so anybody who takes part therefore accepts those risks.
The same principle applies to theme park rides, bungee jumping, parachuting etc.
Nothing in life is risk free. We all need to make a judgement on what risks we are willing to take.
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|12-07-2012, 04:28 AM||#24|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Birmingham, England
It's been 6 years since my last visit so (obviously) i've forgotten all the safety rules and I've never been with my DD so our visit with her will be totally focused on her enjoyment and safety. Good to read all your comments - hope it didn't start too much of a heated debate though.
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