Lost faith

[sechelt]

Originally Posted by chipdale74

Thanks everyone for all your recommendations and advice. I sent an email to the original person letting her know her reservation was cancelled due to lack of payment. I was lucky and I found someone who wanted to use the current ressie (yeah!!!!). I am going to be extra careful in the future and I will be doing contracts. Thanks for the advice!!

I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Congratulations! This really is a typical Disney story.....it started out wonderful, turned ugly, then along came someone to save the day, and they all lived happily ever after.

Merry Christmas!

[chipdale74]

Yes it was. Now I can make sure my daughter has a Merry Christmas. Seeing her happy and healthy is all I want

[Missyrose]

I'm glad things worked out for OP, but there was a small point I wanted to make. It's great that people point to using contracts in these transactions as a solution, but even if they had a contract in this case, would it be legally enforceable? Or would it even be worth the money to pursue legally?

The more important idea to take away from this discussion is to have a set payment schedule that includes full payment before the 31-day cutoff. If the OP had a payment schedule that included full payment at 45 days out, they could have easily put the points back on the market before they went into holding. Luckily she found another taker for the reservation.

The contracts are not the be all and end all of point rentals, they merely just set expectations on both sides.

[jekjones1558]

I do so love happy endings. Thanks for posting Sharon, OP!

[mousefan1972]

Glad it worked out, OP!

[Canadian Disney Mom]

Originally Posted by chipdale74

Thanks everyone for all your recommendations and advice. I sent an email to the original person letting her know her reservation was cancelled due to lack of payment. I was lucky and I found someone who wanted to use the current ressie (yeah!!!!). I am going to be extra careful in the future and I will be doing contracts. Thanks for the advice!!

I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

That is such great news! I am always happy to hear when these things end well!!!

Enjoy your Holidays!

[joeyrose]

Originally Posted by chipdale74

Thanks everyone for all your recommendations and advice. I sent an email to the original person letting her know her reservation was cancelled due to lack of payment. I was lucky and I found someone who wanted to use the current ressie (yeah!!!!). I am going to be extra careful in the future and I will be doing contracts. Thanks for the advice!!

I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

great news! congrats!

[mybabesuz]

I'm glad it worked out for you.
I was sad that I missed this.
I would have rented your reservation in a second.
You probably could have gotten the full price for it.
I am going through major Disney Christmas Withdrawal.

I always get payment in full at 60 days out for rentals.
I also put in the contract that they forfeit their deposit if I don't get the balance paid at 60 days out.

[chipdale74]

That's a good idea. Did you make the contract yourself? Do you accept a % for the deposit? Trying to get some ideas for next time.

Christmas is my favorite time to go down. My entire house is decorated with Disney for the holidays.

[crisi]

Originally Posted by chipdale74

Thanks everyone for all your recommendations and advice. I sent an email to the original person letting her know her reservation was cancelled due to lack of payment. I was lucky and I found someone who wanted to use the current ressie (yeah!!!!). I am going to be extra careful in the future and I will be doing contracts. Thanks for the advice!!

I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I'm really glad.

Now...countdown to the "my owner ripped me off and cancelled my reservation" thread appearing.

[Canadian Disney Mom]

Originally Posted by crisi

Now...countdown to the "my owner ripped me off and cancelled my reservation" thread appearing.

[chipdale74]

Yeah I'll wait for that one too. It's becoming the American way to want things for free. I just hope someone else doesn't have to go through this.

[lisaviolet]

Originally Posted by maburke

I don't know if I'd call this a "scam," because the person didn't get anything from you.

Understood.

You forgot time.

They were giving - left presents of headaches, stress and wasted time. And nothing's more valuable than time. Sighing.

I don't rent my points out on a regular basis at all. I did this year but haven't for years on end. But there are early potential renters and some whom I didn't turn my brain on for by going with them (not directed toward you OP) - that have tired the absolute crap out of me. And to me that's valuable time and energy. I came out of a transaction about seven years ago where I honestly felt that I had earned every cent of the transaction. Meaning I felt way underpaid. .

Yes they are few and far between and most are wonderful renters that know what they want ahead of time and are fantastic transactions. But there seems to me that there are more and more *interesting* people on the loose.

Originally Posted by maburke

But it's better than a check. Quicker, and won't bounce.

Originally Posted by tjkraz

True but there are a lot of horror stories out there about PayPal reversing charges following a complaint or even locking accounts entirely.

I can't speak to the frequency of these actions, nor to the circumstances which lead up to them. But it seems if you're unlucky enough to hook-up with a renter who is bound and determined to cause trouble, complaints filed with PayPal--embellished or fraudulent--could lead to just as many headaches.

Thank you for addressing Paypal. I don't take it for these reasons and have to explain why I don't - which I have no issue with doing - as I can understand that it seems suspicious to some. I always say that I realize that there are a myriad of wonderful, successful Paypal transactions every single day but as an owner I won't put myself in a position of the transaction being challenged.

But it doesn't help when some owners on here guide potential renters - in general DVC renting discussions/suggestions/even a sticky once - by saying "make sure the owner takes Paypal".

[lisaviolet]

Sorry. Forgot. I'm very happy to hear that things worked out OP.

And lessons are learned through business transactions for everyone.

But I just wanted to let you know that I understand how tiring it can be if you get someone who takes up too much time, thought and brings stress.

And even if we all do contracts and have strong "this is business" skills - well there is still the chance of having issues after a renter completes their stay. And enough said on that because I certainly don't want to give any idiots ideas. . Once again, few and far between but chances.

[Deb & Bill]

If the CM at the front desk isn't aware the the non-member is not the member, they can and have upgraded the reservation that required more points. And it is hard to get the money for those extra points from the non-member after the fact.