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Old 11-27-2012, 04:45 PM   #16
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The best way to get results is to go to the main desk and speak to the manager, face to face. Calling does nothing, I learned this on one of our earlier trips way back years ago. We had issues and kept calling and then saw the manager the day before we were leaving and talked to him and that is when he told me this piece of wisdom. It does not mean you will get what you want, but that is the person you need to talk with.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:27 PM   #17
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Glad to hear everything worked out

I'm definitely not trying to defend CBR, but for anyone who is easily influenced, CBR is in dire need of refurbishments which is prevalent to anyone who consistently reads these boards. I'd have to imagine said refurbishment is not too far off in the future, considering it's the last resort to have double beds in the moderate level. I'm not saying a run down room is acceptable, but it's to be expected at CBR based on previous reviews.

I hope your kids are feeling better, but I don't know that I'd blame the food court. Bad food and flu bugs can happen anywhere. The parks are breeding grounds for germs. Last time we went, I came home with pneumonia. Just wanted to make mention of this since it's impossible to pinpoint where the issues are from.

Hope things are better now at CSR!
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:57 PM   #18
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Since you gave an update I won't go into much but let me just say as a person who's family was/is in the service industry (family restaurant) let me say, complaints are not a bad thing that the dis makes them out to be.

1) if a room is bad, how will management know unless you complain.
2) word of mouth is worth it's weight in gold, I'd much rather you complain and give us a chance to repair or fix the problem then do nothing and then bad mouth us afterwards.
3) You paid good morning for a product, if that product is not up to par you are in effect getting ripped off.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:48 PM   #19
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Sorry to hear that your trip is disappointing. I have always found that I f you lodge a complaint with a CM quietly and patiently, they will do all they can to make it right, especially if you suggest a specific solution. I am sure they can find you another room at another resort or within CSR. (Maybe they even have space at a deluxe?) Sorry to hear about the tummy trouble. That stinks .

Let us know how it turns out. Hope you get some pixie dust!
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Since you gave an update I won't go into much but let me just say as a person who's family was/is in the service industry (family restaurant) let me say, complaints are not a bad thing that the dis makes them out to be.

1) if a room is bad, how will management know unless you complain.
2) word of mouth is worth it's weight in gold, I'd much rather you complain and give us a chance to repair or fix the problem then do nothing and then bad mouth us afterwards.
3) You paid good morning for a product, if that product is not up to par you are in effect getting ripped off.
EXACTLY! I have small business owners in my family and the hospitality industry has the highest failure rate. The way they make it work is customer satisfaction and WANT the complaints so they can fix it and prevent it from happening again. It's win-win for them and has allowed them to be successful
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:29 AM   #21
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We live in Florida about an hour and a few minutes away. My family came to visit from Pennsylvania. It was their first time going to Disney. We stayed 4 nights at POR. Between all of us we had two rooms. It was terrible. I never had any bad experiences in the past but this time whatever could happen happened to us. I can't remember all of the things that went wrong. I do know we waisted almost a full day in our rooms waiting for our refrigerators. In both rooms they were not working. My step mom needed the refrigerator for her meds so it was necessary to stay to wait for them to come and check the ones we had. Maintenance dated it takes awhile for them to cool day. Well we waited and waited still not cold. Called again....this time they said they were just going to replace them. So we waited and waited again. Finally we had refrigerators that worked. Like I said I can not remember what else went wrong with our stay. Finally I went to the front desk and spoke to a manager. Without any hesitation she told us to go to the food court and get anything we wanted. She even told us to get things to take back to our rooms and as I was walking away she said and don't forget about getting snacks for on the way home. Oh now I remember since we were stuck waiting for the refrigerators we missed our reservations in Epcot. And by the time we were able to go anywhere to eat it was raining terrible. So it does pay to speak up.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:59 AM   #22
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I'm sorry you aren't having as much fun this go round ; ( Sending some pixie dust your way!

If you and your family would be happier at CSR (I like it there too), then yes I would go speak with a CM and see what they could do. Figure out what YOU want and ask politely to make it happen. I'm sure they will move you to a new room at CBR if that works better for your family.

Guessing that if the water play area isn't busy, the lifeguards aren't going to make a stink about older siblings playing in there with younger siblings as long as they are respectful of the little ones toddling around.

It is far more likely that the vomiting your family is experiencing is passing around a virus/rotovirus vs. getting food poisoning on two separate occasions. You are around a TON of people during cold/flu season, people are going to get sick. No fun at all! Sucks no matter what the cause of it was!
That was my immediate thought. I would still complain about condition of room and asked to be moved.
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:02 AM   #23
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Thanks for all the comments. I took your advice and went to the lobby and asked to speak to a manager. I spoke to a very nice cast member who listened to my concerns and arranged to have me moved to the CSR. She also helped me cancel (without penalty) a dining reservation for Garden Grill for tonight (my daughter still isn't fully well so we are not making it to Epcot as planned).

We now have park hoppers so we'll try to squeeze what we had planned for 4 days into 3 days.
Glad it worked out for you.
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:31 AM   #24
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Since you gave an update I won't go into much but let me just say as a person who's family was/is in the service industry (family restaurant) let me say, complaints are not a bad thing that the dis makes them out to be.

1) if a room is bad, how will management know unless you complain.
2) word of mouth is worth it's weight in gold, I'd much rather you complain and give us a chance to repair or fix the problem then do nothing and then bad mouth us afterwards.
3) You paid good morning for a product, if that product is not up to par you are in effect getting ripped off.


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Old 11-29-2012, 10:44 PM   #25
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we are on our 4th trip, at CBR, and things are not exactly going smoothly.

We have 4 nights left on an 8 night stay and my wife has said several times that this is the worst resort we have ever stayed at. And I think the kids feel the same. (Previous stays were Contemporary, Pop Century, and CSR -- in that order.)

Normally I wouldn't complain about one little thing, but it's getting to the point where it's affecting our fun.

Here is a rundown.

1.) one of the big reasons we even booked CBR is the water playground. After my kids looked at it for two days and we finally take them over and are ready to enter there we see the 48 inch height max. Why can't that be posted somewhere else (pool entrance) so you don't get kids psyched up and disappoint them like that. I looked at other signs and could not see height posted (I also don't remember height requirement listed on anything I read)

2) our room is in need of maintenance TLC. The fridge is missing a leg on front left, so the door doesn't always close or stay closed. I believe the reason my 1 year old threw up on night 2 was because he got some bad milk from the fridge before my wife knew about the fridge problem.

Also, the room looks run down... No cover around sprinkler in bathroom. Condition of some furniture run down.

I asked them to do something about fridge 2 days ago and as far as I can tell nothing has been done.


3) the food in the food court is nasty. My wife and daughter(9) threw up last night and we thing it was from a couple pasta dishes they ate at Old Port Royale. My son(7) also complained of a sore belly.

4) the Internet signal around my room is terrible (both 3G and wifi). The only time we can get on is in middle of afternoon. Never had this problem at CSR. The Internet sounds minor compared to other problems but it really affect when trying to make adjustments to plan.


If I do complain I would be asking if they can move me (for last 4 nights) to
A) another resort
Or
B) another room that is in better condition.

Should I even bother to take time to complain?
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:29 AM   #26
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we are on our 4th trip, at CBR, and things are not exactly going smoothly.

We have 4 nights left on an 8 night stay and my wife has said several times that this is the worst resort we have ever stayed at. And I think the kids feel the same. (Previous stays were Contemporary, Pop Century, and CSR -- in that order.)

Normally I wouldn't complain about one little thing, but it's getting to the point where it's affecting our fun.

Here is a rundown.

1.) one of the big reasons we even booked CBR is the water playground. After my kids looked at it for two days and we finally take them over and are ready to enter there we see the 48 inch height max. Why can't that be posted somewhere else (pool entrance) so you don't get kids psyched up and disappoint them like that. I looked at other signs and could not see height posted (I also don't remember height requirement listed on anything I read)

2) our room is in need of maintenance TLC. The fridge is missing a leg on front left, so the door doesn't always close or stay closed. I believe the reason my 1 year old threw up on night 2 was because he got some bad milk from the fridge before my wife knew about the fridge problem.

Also, the room looks run down... No cover around sprinkler in bathroom. Condition of some furniture run down.

I asked them to do something about fridge 2 days ago and as far as I can tell nothing has been done.


3) the food in the food court is nasty. My wife and daughter(9) threw up last night and we thing it was from a couple pasta dishes they ate at Old Port Royale. My son(7) also complained of a sore belly.

4) the Internet signal around my room is terrible (both 3G and wifi). The only time we can get on is in middle of afternoon. Never had this problem at CSR. The Internet sounds minor compared to other problems but it really affect when trying to make adjustments to plan.


If I do complain I would be asking if they can move me (for last 4 nights) to
A) another resort
Or
B) another room that is in better condition.

Should I even bother to take time to complain?

We were staying at BWV Sept. 2011. DD's 9th birthday. Had reservations for SCI FI DINER in HS. Called quest services special cake hotline months in advance to have special birthday cake ready at the SCI FI. When the time came for dessert they did not have the special cake we ordered, did not complain. The next evening we were planning on going to Fantasmic @ HS. We had reservations at Mama Melroses with intention to attend fantasmic afterwards. We arrived at the entrance to HS only to find that the computers were down. We could not enter the park for almost twenty minutes. We then had to run like crazy to make it to Mama's. They did a great job of serving us quickly and then, after we explained about getting stuck at the gate, gave us preferred seating vouchers for fantasmic. When we arrived back at BW I spoke to the manager and explained the two events that we experienced in the last two days and he said he would look into it. We recieved a $50.00 customer inconvienence credit on our bill. I always make it a point to convey any disappointment to the CM's because it has been my experience they will do whatever they can to make it right. DON'T COMPLAIN, JUST BRING IT TO THIER ATTENTION you catch more flies with honey than vineger
One time we were at the Studios and were going to go see Fantasmic but as usual it was Wicked Crowded and getting close to show time. The CM down near the entrance said she thought it was down to standing room only and was suggesting guests come back for the second show. So we decided 'hey great!' When we've attended 2nd shows, often the theatre isn't even half full. Well low and behold, we came back at the time she told us and there was NO SECOND SHOW that night!!!! Now I wasn't that upset because we've seen it before and we Will see it again, BUT what about the guest who this was their only opportunity?? On my way out of the park, I did stop at Guest Services and speak with a member of mgt (I remembered the CM's name who had told me about the 2nd show) and told them what had happened. I said, for me, it's not a big deal...I've seen it and I'll be back again but for someone else, that incorrect information could have caused them to miss their only opportunity to see Fantasmic. I also said I didn't want the CM to get in trouble, but I just wanted her to make absolutely sure there was a second show before she told guests that again...that was all. No anger, no raised voices, just some feedback to fix a problem. The manager said she appreciated my taking the time to tell her about this that she gave me four free one day one park tickets! I told her I really wasn't 'looking' for anything. I was really just hoping nobody missed it that REALLY wanted to see it was all. She told me to use them to be sure "I" came back to see Fantasmic! LOL!!


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Old 11-30-2012, 10:43 PM   #27
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3) You paid good morning for a product...
Autocorrect strikes again!

As for us, one trip to the YC, we had asked for standard view adjoining rooms (not connecting, just next to each other). When we didn't get them, I went back down to see if they could move us a little closer together.

The manager on duty upgraded us to connecting water view.

And I wasn't complaining, just asking to be within one or two rooms apart... So, agree, if you're courteous and friendly, it seems they'll work magic for you.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:40 PM   #28
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Ah I see some people have already beat me to what I was going to say.

A business won't know something is wrong unless it's brought to their attention. I agree what gets misconstrued on these boards is commenting vs complaining..then assuming that the person bringing up the issue it always out to work the system and get comped.

Either way, glad to see they were able to help you out and hopefully everyone starts feeling better so you can enjoy the rest of your stay.
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Thanks for all the comments. I took your advice and went to the lobby and asked to speak to a manager.
Good to hear they took you seriously, and thanks for reporting back!

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1) if a room is bad, how will management know unless you complain.
Wanted to second eliza61's whole post, but also comment on this point. I've heard people argue that they shouldn't have to complain, the maids should catch this or that. But, even when there are procedures in place where the maids do a maintenance checklist daily (which frankly I doubt that Disney does), things get missed. Staying in a room is different than cleaning it, and some problems take more time to notice than others, so the people who stay in the room can know way more about problems than the maid ever will. And a lot of people won't bother talking to management about little stuff or things that doesn't bother them, so a broken fridge, for instance, can go unnoticed for a good long while. A warm soda is not the issue that warm milk can be!
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I've been home almost 3 weeks now, sorry that I didn't provide update before now.

When I was at CBR, I went over to customs house and explained (calmly) the various issues that we were having and how both wife and kids were not enjoying that resort. I made sure to point out that it was my 4th trip in 5 years and that I had never had a bad experience, but that the circumstances (detailed in previous posts) this time were adversely affecting our experience.

I was very pleased with the courtesy with which our concerns were handled by the manager that heard my complaint and the effort they took to get us back on the track to fun.

After outlining my concerns (there were several - not one little thing), I was immediately offered my choice of water park tickets, or 1 day tickets for a future stay. Per my request she also looked around to see if she could get me into another resort.

In the end, I was moved from CBR to a water view in Casitas section of CSR and I got park hopping added to my tickets (in lieu of water parks).
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