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Old 11-27-2012, 04:19 PM   #61
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With a Remy reservation, you will automatically get an invitation to meet with the sommelier (the wine steward) prior to dining to discuss what kinds of wines you prefer. You don't have to make your decision then, of course; you will wait until dinner to do that. There was no "pushing" of the wine pairing and the steward on the Fantasy in October was remarkably helpful in making sure that we got the wine we wanted. Take advantage of this - tell the sommelier what kind of wine you like and what your budget is and he will find a match for you, either by the bottle or by the glass. You'll also get to see the special menu that includes the $25,000 bottle of wine in the vault as well as some more "reasonably" priced wines from the vault - plenty in the $100 - $300 range.

My wife had a terrific glass of a Super Tuscan wine at Palo in 2011 and couldn't remember the name of the wine - the sommelier was able to track that vintage down, brought her a glass with dinner, and eventually removed the label from the bottle and had it laminated for us to bring home.

I think I started this whole 2 oz. thing and I misspoke and apologize; the pourings are not that small. The servers are not bashful about it. For some of the courses, the sommelier came out and introduced the wine and region of France where it was from. If you're into wine, the pairing is worth it. If you're not, there won't be any pressure to order it, and you can easily order a glass (or two) of any other wine they carry on the ship.

These aren't still the pairings, because the menu has changed some since this was posted in 2011 - but I do recall having a Sancerre and a Gewurztraminer as well.

http://i1.disneyfoodblog.com/wp-cont...op-of-menu.jpg

I really think Remy is a little oasis on the ship - while CMs often work multiple jobs, I don't think you will never see the Remy chefs or servers anywhere else; that's part of the mystique that you are paying for. There is no pressure at all for anything - part of the experience is the outstanding service - a tiny tableside stool for a lady's purse, escorts in and out of the restaurant to the bathrooms, and extras throughout the meal, including the "surprise" cheese course prior to dessert that included some mind-blowingly delicious cheeses.

To put it into perspective - when you've paid $5000 for a cruise for a family of 4, the wine that you order at Remy is a fraction of that cost. Decide in advance how much you want to spend on wine and do that. You won't be disappointed.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:37 PM   #62
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The trick with wine is to drink good wine. Not expensive or cheep wine. Most of my favorites are all under $25 a bottle. I have had some wonderful wines that cost much more than that and some terrible wines that cost much more than that. It is subjective, just like food.

So you sound like you know your wine.....what justifies the $200 wine? Yes, I know all drinks are marked up in a restaurant but this seems a bit over the top to me.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:25 PM   #63
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So you sound like you know your wine.....what justifies the $200 wine? Yes, I know all drinks are marked up in a restaurant but this seems a bit over the top to me.
you think $200 is over the top? How about the $25,000 bottle they offer?

Wine, like many other things, is highly subjective. I have had cheap wines that were crap and expensive wines that were crap IMO. On the other hand I have had both cheap and expensive wines that I really loved. Our favorite table wine is this $10/bottle blend from Cosentino winery called Ol' Red. We have brought it to friendly wine tasting parties and it always gets voted #1 or #2.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:45 PM   #64
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Wine, like many other things, is highly subjective. I have had cheap wines that were crap and expensive wines that were crap IMO. On the other hand I have had both cheap and expensive wines that I really loved. Our favorite table wine is this $10/bottle blend from Cosentino winery called Ol' Red. We have brought it to friendly wine tasting parties and it always gets voted #1 or #2.
My Dad got a kick out of serving this red wine at dinner called "It's Good"
And, it was very cheap and very good
So yes I agree, you can definitely enjoy wine regardless of what it is priced.

I've had wine pairings at dinner twice.
Once at Victoria and Albert's (Grand Floridian at WDW) and once at Remy.
The wine pairing at V&A was years ago and very memorable. Really brought out and complimented the flavors of the food. I couldn't finish all the wine but it was a wonderful experience.
The wine pairing at Remy was on the Dream last year. I remember the red wine that went with the duck dish being really good, a pinot noir I think, but the others were not as memorable.

I am not a wine expert by any means, but these were fun to try
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Thanks for the wine list. Is there an expert here that would offer a review of these wines?

A quick Google search shows that these wines retail around $35.00 for a single bottle. I saw one wine for $45.00, but another was priced as low as $14.00. I’m sure they are much less by the case. If 5 glasses equal a bottle then the DCL markup on wine pairing is about 3-4X. It seems high, but probably not unreasonable for a restaurant markup.

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5oz per glass

The standard wine serving is 5 ounces. Does the wine pairing include the full 5 ounces or 2 ounces?


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Old 11-27-2012, 11:25 PM   #67
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Thanks for the wine list. Is there an expert here that would offer a review of these wines?

A quick Google search shows that these wines retail around $35.00 for a single bottle. I saw one wine for $45.00, but another was priced as low as $14.00. I’m sure they are much less by the case. If 5 glasses equal a bottle then the DCL markup on wine pairing is about 3-4X. It seems high, but probably not unreasonable for a restaurant markup.

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That is standard for a restaurant markup on wine. And the really cheap wines usually have the worst mark up.
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Remy may seem like a bargain (to some) @ $75 pp - but that price is in addition to what has already been paid for dinner in the dining room.

I am willing to spend $20 for Palo, but not $75 for Remy. For $75 - I'd rather go on an excursion.
Well, for us that is an excursion
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:50 AM   #69
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The standard wine serving is 5 ounces. Does the wine pairing include the full 5 ounces or 2 ounces?
Probably somewhere in between. You can raise all this with the sommelier when you are deciding whether to do the wine pairing or not. If you want better value for the $99 you want to spend on the wine pairing, order two $50 bottles of wine - you'll get more bang for your buck. That's not the point of the pairing - the pairing is intended to specifically enhance the flavors of the courses the wines are served with; it's not intended to be a value proposition. I'm certain that if you want full glasses of wine with each course, you can ask for that and they will give you full 5 oz. pours. They really are not out to screw you out of your money - the entire emphasis of Remy is on having an extremely high class dining experience on a cruise ship.

Note also that you'll get a champagne cocktail when you sit down that's not mentioned in the menu or the pricing. We made the mistake of ordering a drink in Meridian before we were seated because we arrived 15 minutes early and were still drinking those when we were seated and missed the complimentary champagne cocktail.
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Does everyone at the table have to get the wine or can some people opt out without having to pay the upcharge?
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Does everyone at the table have to get the wine or can some people opt out without having to pay the upcharge?
the charge for wine pairings is per person. if you ask, they are likely to allow one couple to share the wine pairings as well ... I have friends who who have done this while dining at Remy on the Dream.
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the charge for wine pairings is per person. if you ask, they are likely to allow one couple to share the wine pairings as well ... I have friends who who have done this while dining at Remy on the Dream.
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2oz pour? All of our glasses of wine where 4oz pours which is your standard glass of wine. We also got an extra glass of wine and the cheese course twice but that is a different story but does speak to how awesome their service is.

That said, as stated earlier if we cruise again I'll bring two nice bottles of wine from home and pay the corkage fee. We enjoyed the wines but two of the glasses of wine I would never have ordered. They were just way to sweet for my taste but still nice glasses of wine that paired nicely with the food.
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Out of curiosity I decided to look up *why* any wine would be worth $25,000. I came across this description of tasting the wine:

"The moment I lifted the glass to my nose and took in that sweet, spicy, arresting perfume, my notion of excellence in wine, and my understanding of what wine was capable of, was instantly transformed. The '47 was the warmest, richest, most decadent wine I'd ever encountered. Even more striking than its opulence was its freshness. The flavors were redolent of stewed fruits and dead flowers, yet the wine tasted alive; it bristled with energy and purpose. The '47s signature flaws—the residual sugar and volatile acidity—were readily apparent, but it was just as Lurton had said: In this wine, the flaws inexplicably became virtues."

So if the experience of tasting the greatest wine ever made is worth the price of a mini-van, then this is the wine for you. =)

It's also an extreme case of letting you decide how much an experience is worth to you. Myself, I am taking my wife to Remy's for our anniversary, and for that it's worth it to me. But I won't be spending $25,000 for the wine, alas.
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Out of curiosity I decided to look up *why* any wine would be worth $25,000. I came across this description of tasting the wine:

The dude just spent $25,000 for crushed grapes. Do you think he's going to give it a bad review?
If nothing else he HAS to rave in order to save face with his wife!!!
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