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Old 11-25-2012, 07:17 PM   #61
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Wonder why jobs are going to China and India? Workers in China and India dont whine and complain.
Jobs go to China and India because companies can pay workers peanuts and pocket the difference as pure profit.

The only reason companies move jobs overseas is $$$$$ ~ plain and simple.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:22 PM   #62
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Jobs go to China and India because companies can pay workers peanuts and pocket the difference as pure profit.

The only reason companies move jobs overseas is $$$$$ ~ plain and simple.
but they can pay them less because cost of living is so much cheaper.
In Taiwan, i can feed a family of 5 for $10. That is unheard of in the US. There McD menu combo are mostly around $5ish

Another thing was when i used to work for a button company, it was easier for us to ship it back to China to assemble than to hire 1-2 ppl here to assemble. This is WITH next day air to China and back.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:35 PM   #63
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but they can pay them less because cost of living is so much cheaper.
In Taiwan, i can feed a family of 5 for $10. That is unheard of in the US. There McD menu combo are mostly around $5ish

Another thing was when i used to work for a button company, it was easier for us to ship it back to China to assemble than to hire 1-2 ppl here to assemble. This is WITH next day air to China and back.
Glad to see you agree with me.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:42 PM   #64
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Sorry, I avoided working retail because I know that working on holidays was a huge possibility. I'm not sure why anyone else who is butt hurt about working retail holiday hours is subject to have to stay at their jobs. I'm definitely in the suck it up or quit boat.

I seems like the earlier it has started though, now 8pm for Walmart on Thanksgiving, the more people there are. I miss the 3/4/5am starts because less people were willing to wake up that early.

On another note, since my birthday is so close to a holiday, I've had to celebrate it on another day before. I'm not sure why it's so hard for other people to celebrate Thanksgiving, or any other holiday, on another day. A lot of people I work with do that almost every year (healthcare).
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:27 PM   #65
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Wonder why jobs are going to China and India? Workers in China and India dont whine and complain.
No, they don't whine. I saw a special and the building in China had a net around the top of it -- why because the workers were jumping off and committing suicide. But, you are right, they don't whine. Here, read these.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-factory.html

http://hcmatters.com/2012/02/apple-i...iting-suicide/
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:39 AM   #66
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We have become a 24/7/365 society.
I worked graveyard shift (11 pm to 7 am) from 1980 to 2005. Almost nothing was open overnight in 1980, maybe Dennys. In those days 7-11 Stores were open.....shockingly....from 7 am to 11 pm.
By 2005 7-11 ws 24 hours, as were a lot of places. Just this week, Dutch Brothers, a coffee chain that has kiosks in shopping center parking lots....decided to experiement with being open 24 hours.
So New York City is no longer the only city that never sleeps.
Really? I'm 45 and I always remember 7-11's being open 24 hours.

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Wonder why jobs are going to China and India? Workers in China and India dont whine and complain.
I don't know about China, but my DH works IT and works with people from all over the globe and they are ALWAYS whining and complaining about having to work. Heck, half the time they just don't show up and my DH ends up working for them. He worked Thanksgiving, will work Christmas, and got an email from someone in Manila the other day asking him to cover for them for New Year's Eve. But these same people won't EVER cover for him. The only ones that seem to show up to work on time and not whine and complain are the Americans.
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Sorry, I avoided working retail because I know that working on holidays was a huge possibility. I'm not sure why anyone else who is butt hurt about working retail holiday hours is subject to have to stay at their jobs. I'm definitely in the suck it up or quit boat.

I seems like the earlier it has started though, now 8pm for Walmart on Thanksgiving, the more people there are. I miss the 3/4/5am starts because less people were willing to wake up that early.

On another note, since my birthday is so close to a holiday, I've had to celebrate it on another day before. I'm not sure why it's so hard for other people to celebrate Thanksgiving, or any other holiday, on another day. A lot of people I work with do that almost every year (healthcare).

Its hard to celebrate a holiday on another day and still see all the people you love. I'm not judging those who are complaining - I'm thankful that I don't have to do it. Sometimes it seems like the whole world is against families being together, and the holidays used to be "sacred" in that most of us could at least be together on that one day. I might have less empathy for retail workers if they were paid better on holidays.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:54 AM   #68
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Really? I'm 45 and I always remember 7-11's being open 24 hours.
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That's why they were called 7-11s.

According to their website, some locations started staying open 24 hours in 1963. So before your time, but after mine.


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Old 11-26-2012, 09:59 AM   #69
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Jobs go to China and India because companies can pay workers peanuts and pocket the difference as pure profit.

The only reason companies move jobs overseas is $$$$$ ~ plain and simple.
Not the only reason. It's because their customers wouldn't pay the extra $$$$$ for domestically made items.
TV production was among the first to show that.
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Its hard to celebrate a holiday on another day and still see all the people you love. I'm not judging those who are complaining - I'm thankful that I don't have to do it. Sometimes it seems like the whole world is against families being together, and the holidays used to be "sacred" in that most of us could at least be together on that one day. I might have less empathy for retail workers if they were paid better on holidays.
Christmas is on a Tuesday this year. We're deciding now whether to have our family dinner on Christmas Eve or on Sunday the 23rd because people have to travel home to work on Wednesday. So even though everyone is off both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, we still may move the family celebration. Even small families (we have three grown kids) have moved holidays to accomodate family. Throw some in-laws into the mix, and that 'sacred' day is gone.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:03 AM   #71
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Christmas is on a Tuesday this year. We're deciding now whether to have our family dinner on Christmas Eve or on Sunday the 23rd because people have to travel home to work on Wednesday. So even though everyone is off both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, we still may move the family celebration.

Its good to be able to work that out. Its a complicated world, and people can't afford to jeopardize their jobs. I work weekends as a sales rep., so while I don't have the crazy amount of required time that retailers do, I'm still required to work my weekends in December. I would be the one that would mess up your Christmas plans, if I was in your family and you wanted to see me .
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Its good to be able to work that out. Its a complicated world, and people can't afford to jeopardize their jobs. I work weekends as a sales rep., so while I don't have the crazy amount of required time that retailers do, I'm still required to work my weekends in December. I would be the one that would mess up your Christmas plans, if I was in your family and you wanted to see me .
We'd have to choose between you and my sister (can't do Christmas Eve because of the inlaws). Right now, you'd win hands down.

We, for one, appreciated the retailers that were open on Thanksgiving. We were moving my elderly father, and greatly appreciated being able to run to Kmart and grab a few things without the Black Friday crowds!
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:32 AM   #73
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I am one who refused to shop on Thanksgiving day. I just don't find shopping essential. I also took note of who remained closed and shopped those retailers over the weekend. Sure, I paid a little more, but I would rather support those retailers while they still exist. While chose to shop, and that is their right, I prefer to spend the time with my family.
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I wonder if any of these people complaining (not the posters in the thread, per se) about businesses being open on Thanksgiving or Christmas have ever planned a trip to Walt Disney World over those holidays?
Oh but that is different I am sure

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No shopping last night but our family went to a movie. This isn't anything new either, we've been going to movies on Thanksgiving and Christmas night for decades.

It's kind of ironic to me that movie theatre employees have worked major holidays for so long without any of this fuss but as soon as Walmart tries it all heck breaks loose.
Hypocritical if you ask me..if anyone has gone anywhere but their own home and have never used a service on a holiday than they can talk. But if anyone has run out because they forgot an item, the roasting pan broke, they needed gas, they went to the movies or rented a movie, they ate elsewhere or they watched TV, or even called the cable company that day, than they are hypocritical IMHO.

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I try and try but can't see the difference between stores and other businesses such as theaters and restaurants being open. I guess that it's really just a matter of personal preference.
There isnt any difference. Like I stated above, where is the outrage against the gas stations, the movie theaters, the NFL, the bars, the restaurants, the country clubs.

And in all these threads I keep seeing Walmart mentioned, well wasnt Target and ToysRUs open too, why dont I see those names mentioned


And just for the record...I dont shop on Thanskgiving or Black Friday, it is not worth it to me. You can barely get me out on the days leading up to Christmas I hate shopping so much but if customers will shop then stores will be open. I am sure there was much outrage when shopping was allowed on Sundays finally. And there are plenty of other holidays that now have places open that never did before.

Times have changed, if you dont want to shop then dont, if the retailers dont have it work out they will close it is that simple. But then I hope you also dont run to any other stores or theaters, or you dont go out to eat anywhere but home or watch football so all those nonessential people can be home with their families too
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No, they just kill themselves.
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