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Old 11-08-2012, 04:21 PM   #16
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we always tip well so we love having the added 18% on the ticket and then we also save on alcohol. I believe if you spend $375 the card pays for itself. We can do that in one sitting in Disney if there are 4 of us (all adults). Last week we dropped that several times...or at least close to it...we ate a Cali Grill, Derby, Bluezoo and Shula's.
Correct me if I'm wrong but TIW is 75.00 if purchased with an AP and 100.00 if just a DVC discount.If that's correct then either spending 375.00 or 400.00 lets you break even.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:22 PM   #17
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I see that the card gets you 20% off your meals at participating resaurants. Thats cool but then it adds 18% on your food bill. So really you are saving 2%? Am I missing something? I do not see this as a deal. That 2% will not cover the price I paid for the TIW Card....
Here's an example. Let's say the pre-tax, pre-tip total for your meal is $100.

Without TIW, your final bill would be $124.50 ($100 + $6.50 tax + $18 tip).

With TIW, your total would be $103.20 ($80 +$5.20 tax + $18 tip)

You save $21.30 with TIW, $20 off the menu prices and another $1.30 on the tax. You don't save anything on the tip because that is calculated on the cost of the food before the discount. Overall (factoring in tax and tip) you save 17.11% with TIW. If you normally would tip 20% and just go with TIW's 18% then you save a little more (18.42%).

If you have an AP you can get the TIW card for $75. You would have to spend $438.34 including tax and the 18% tip ($352.11 in menu prices) to break even. If you travel with more than just two people or if you like to dine at signature restaurants or you buy a bottle of wine with dinner instead of just a glass, you'll get to the break-even point much faster than we do. It's good for up to 10 people dining together so if you have even one big group dinner you'll be well on your way to breaking even.

The TIW card is good for 12 months from date of purchase so it works for DH and I since we go to WDW twice a year but would not work for us if we went only once a year. I wish they had a "TIW for TWO" that was less expensive but restricted to just two people at the table.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:34 PM   #18
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1. My normal answer to "are you on a dining plan?" is No. When the bill comes I then bring out my TiW card.

The only time I will let the server know in advance is if some of the gorup I am with are on the dining plan, and I will tell the server to put all non-plan food and all alcoholic beverages on my bill.

2. Here is a working example, using $100.00 as the original bill to make the math show up easily. Note this is for Table Service. At Counter Service there is no gratuity added.

100.00 - Original Menu Amount
*20.00 - Discount
*80.00 - Subtotal
*18.00 - Gratuity Added based on $100
**5.20 - Sales Tax on $80
103.20 - Final amount charged, takes into consideration discount, gratuity and tax.

Without TiW Discount (and still figuring 18% Gratuity)

100.00 - Original Menu Amount
*18.00 - Gratuity
**6.50 - Sales Tax on $100
124.50 - Total

$21.30 - Savings using TiW Card.

(Note - At Victoria and Albert's the added gratuity is 20% instead of 18%.)
* Ignore the asterisks; they are there only so the columns/numbers line up properly.

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Old 11-08-2012, 06:58 PM   #19
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So to pay the TIW card back for a DVC member. You would need to eat out 5 times at $100 a meal. $21 (in savings a meal) x 5 = $105
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:42 PM   #20
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So to pay the TIW card back for a DVC member. You would need to eat out 5 times at $100 a meal. $21 (in savings a meal) x 5 = $105
Basically, yes. You would need to spend about $500 on pre-discounted dining to break even on the cost. The discount is valid for the card holder and up to nine additional guests on a single check. Once purchased, the TiW card is usually valid for about 13 months.
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Exactly,and also, as opposed to AP restaurant discounts and DVC restaurant discounts, the 20% TIW discount is the only one that applies to alcohol! We aren't alcoholics but for 6 people, a before dinner drink and a glass of wine with dinner can be steep at Disney and 20% helps!
We have the Deluxe Dining Plan and normally tip 20%, as we have just join DVC and looking at TIW, can you use both? Have you meal on the DDDP and use TIW for Drinks. I know then you will get the 18% added for drinks and could pay tip on the DDDP. We go for 14 nights so even just drinks on TIW would cut costs??? TTFN Jo
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:12 AM   #22
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We have the Deluxe Dining Plan and normally tip 20%, as we have just join DVC and looking at TIW, can you use both? Have you meal on the DDDP and use TIW for Drinks. I know then you will get the 18% added for drinks and could pay tip on the DDDP. We go for 14 nights so even just drinks on TIW would cut costs??? TTFN Jo
Yes, you can still use the TIW card and the DDP. The TIW will get you the same 20% discount on any meal items not included in the DDP. You can also use it if you choose to go into a WDW lounge and just order drinks.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:19 AM   #23
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I always tell them up front that we have the card and we have never experienced bad service. On this last trip, I had to do some serious math ahead of time to be sure buying the card would be worth it since we only plan for one trip this year. In the end, we saved $46 beyond the $100 cost of the card so it was still well worth it.

Keep in mind that you can also use the card at a lot of the lounges. We often like to have a drink before bed when returning to the resort and used the card for that at Victoria Falls Lounge. We also used it at Top of the World the night we went up to view Wishes.

We don't drink a ton but do like to have some wine at dinner and a fancy drink here and there on vacation and it is nice to get some savings on that.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #24
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If you weren't planning on leaving tips then don't purchase the card. That isn't a conversation we want to get into.

Personally I will have saved over $700 this year by purchasing the TIW card. When the server asks if we are on a dining plan we tell them Tables in Wonderland. I do not recall there ever being service issues because of the "guaranteed tip". For exceptional service we leave more. We are headed back to WDW for six nights with 8 adults and I know there will be some hefty dinner bills. We are very happy with TIW.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:23 PM   #25
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Add me to the list of people who have never had bad service as a result of an automatic service charge---either due to having TIW, or just having a large party. I half-suspect that most WDW guests tip well under 18% based on some of the reactions I've seen from servers.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:53 PM   #26
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My DSiL and I took a trip in Oct 2011 and bought AP's. My dad was treating the entire extended family to a trip in June 2012 so I decided to buy a TiW. We used it at a few restaurants and lounges, but we had a split stay and used the DxDDP for 2 nights/3 days which covered most of our TS meals.

When we went in 2012, my DSiL decided to buy a TiW card too. We used the cards for our group meals (splitting the check sinc we were a group of 13-15). In just two meals, we recouped the cost of the cards. Our total at Chef Mickey's was $492 before tax so our discount was abour $98. Then our dinner at O'Hana was about $350 before tax and that discount was abou $70. Besides those two group meals, we also ate with groups of 4-10 at LeCellier, Garden Grill, Sanaa, Boma, Olivia's, 50's Prime Time Cafe and Coral Reef. Obviously, we saved a LOT by using our TiW cards.
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We have not had any bad service when using TiW, actually the opposite. One night at ToTW we got excellent service when we mentioned tables. We saved a lot this last trip with 5 adults and 3-4 meals totaling over $200 checks we more than paid for it. Plus we found out the items at our hotel quick service not covered by AP were discounted by Tables. If we travel more than a week we will get tables every time.
It has been really nice to order drinks and know the discount will work and we had a CM say "tables is just as good as a DDP" so that made us feel great.
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We have not had any bad service when using TiW, actually the opposite. One night at ToTW we got excellent service when we mentioned tables. We saved a lot this last trip with 5 adults and 3-4 meals totaling over $200 checks we more than paid for it. Plus we found out the items at our hotel quick service not covered by AP were discounted by Tables. If we travel more than a week we will get tables every time.
It has been really nice to order drinks and know the discount will work and we had a CM say "tables is just as good as a DDP" so that made us feel great.

Where were you staying? I though Tables discounts were only applied at the quick services places at value resorts, SSR and maybe Port Orleans.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but TIW is 75.00 if purchased with an AP and 100.00 if just a DVC discount.If that's correct then either spending 375.00 or 400.00 lets you break even.
Just to be clear, to break even on a DVC $100 TIW card, you need to spend $500, not $400.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:20 AM   #30
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If you eat a lot of quick service or eat in your room a lot, TIW really isn't worth it. And, as was said above, if you don't tip, it isn't worth it - but lets not go there.

If you eat a lot of sit down dinners - especially signature - or buffets, it can be worth it. Add a larger party, a group who will order a drink or wine with dinner, a evening or two in a lounge, a DVC family who is down for several weeks every year - and a lot of DVCers think that the TiW is one of the best deals going.
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