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Old 11-14-2012, 11:16 PM   #16
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There are only 5 2-bedroom lock-offs that make up the DVC Portion of the Concierge Level rooms at AKV Jambo House. Two of those 2-bedroom lock-offs face the Uzima Pool and the other three face the Sunset Savanna.
Where are the CL Studios located for DVC? We are booked in one for June. Should we expect 6th floor?
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:47 AM   #17
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Yes. On the 6th floor of AKV Jambo over the atrium looking down to the lobby, the lounge is in the middle and there are 3 2br on one side and 2 2br (and a bathroom) on the other.

We did stay once and got bumped to the 5th floor (I assume they over booked). Our keys still got us into the lounge, although we had to remind them that we were supposed to get daily mousekeeping as CL guests.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:29 AM   #18
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Yes. On the 6th floor of AKV Jambo over the atrium looking down to the lobby, the lounge is in the middle and there are 3 2br on one side and 2 2br (and a bathroom) on the other.

We did stay once and got bumped to the 5th floor (I assume they over booked). Our keys still got us into the lounge, although we had to remind them that we were supposed to get daily mousekeeping as CL guests.
This happened to us once too! We had a savannah view on the 5th floor.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:10 PM   #19
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But the cost is unfair. Yes Club Level costs more points for a stay but the owners at AKV don't receive any compensation from the points but they do fund Club Level operations with their dues.

I guess you could say that this is true of any special amenity. Storm-A-Long Bay at BCV costs more to operate than the Luna Park Pool at BWV and the owners pay for both.

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It's actually true of any amenity that not every guest uses (pool, fitness, etc) though some are more out there than others. The actual cost for this items should be fairly small (haven't looked at the numbers) and those that use points for this should generally be AKV guests due to the difficulty booking later and as noted, they will use more points and pay more dues on that number of points. I wouldn't call it unfair though no more than you would any other amenity charge that a given person doesn't use or doesn't use consistently. Plus every one who bought there knew or should have known up front about this issue and imbedded cost (resale assumes the same risks and commitments). The option would likely have been not to have a DVC option there at AK. To me it's similar to the valet parking issue had DVC decided to pass those costs along to owners at each respective resort, the only difference is there wasn't a choice like there was with the valet parking issue.

As I've posted before on other but similar topics, one has to consider the costs, economy of scale and whether an item is essential to a resort (pool). In a way the concierge rooms fit none of those other than it was a condition of the resort and a known situation prior to anyone buying in.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:52 PM   #20
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It's actually true of any amenity that not every guest uses (pool, fitness, etc) though some are more out there than others. The actual cost for this items should be fairly small (haven't looked at the numbers) and those that use points for this should generally be AKV guests due to the difficulty booking later and as noted, they will use more points and pay more dues on that number of points.

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As I've posted before on other but similar topics, one has to consider the costs, economy of scale and whether an item is essential to a resort (pool). In a way the concierge rooms fit none of those other than it was a condition of the resort and a known situation prior to anyone buying in.
I agree with this. These five 2BR's with daily housekeeping and free food/drink have to make up such a small component of the overall AKV budget . . . perhaps negligible. And most of the time, the CL rooms are being used by AKV owners, so it is being utilized by people responsible for the MF's almost all of the time.

You have to wonder if this is something that DVC could turn back over to AKL. Not that I am advocating that option . . . we happened to enjoy our 4 nights on the CL. If it is only going to cost me $0.01 per point per year to keep CL, I would be willing to keep it.
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Old 08-10-2013, 04:34 PM   #21
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Cool CL Rooms

So, do the CL rooms only have windows? They don't have sliding doors as all other rooms?
Besides the safaris, daily mousekeeping service and food/drink available, what are the benefits to staying at a CL room?
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So, do the CL rooms only have windows? They don't have sliding doors as all other rooms?
Besides the safaris, daily mousekeeping service and food/drink available, what are the benefits to staying at a CL room?
They have doors to the balcony.

The only other benefit that I can think of is that you also have access to CL Concierge but to be honest often there is a wait to see them and they don't do anything that you can't do yourself.

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Old 08-12-2013, 07:43 AM   #23
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We stayed there last year, on a trip where we only did one park, one day, Animal Kingdom, just to do the Sunrise Safari. It was nice, however we spent a lot more time in the room and in the lounge than a typical Park Warrior type of guest would. We would not do the CL for one of those types of trips. And I am not sure that we could justify the additional points spend or the worrying about whether or not I can get the stay that I want at 11 months, again.

We do like Jambo House over Kidani, mostly because of the proximity to additional restaurants. Since we only have a small contract at AKL, I think that for us, the value units will be our typical choice at 11 months. The risk of the poor view is outweighed by the low point requirement.
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So are you saying that the concierge rooms there for DVC don't have good views? I did consider staying concierge, but I've gotta admit that I'm all about the views of the animals at AKV. If concierge rooms have poor views, I may not do concierge.
Even if you are lucky enough to get one of the 3 rooms on the savanna view side, you will have limited viewing of the animals because of the location. Mostly we saw the road and an occasional Ankole that happened by.
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The only real benefit of CL is the Sunrise safari. Sure the "treats" are nice, but not worth the extra points, and I don't care to have housekeeping, so that was a negative instead of a positive for me.
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The allure of these coveted concierge-level villas still puzzles me. As an AKV owner, I find the value villas to be the true treasure at this resort. At 7:58am, on the 11-month mark, I am logging into the DVC website for a value villa, not a concierge villa.

While having the concierge-level villas may cost me more in maintenance fees, I would like to think that the extra amount I am paying is allowing me to stay longer in a value villa.

I should mention that we had a garden-view concierge room, in the Hawaii longhouse, at Disney's Polynesian Resort in 2003. Honestly, the cost far exceeded the service and amenities. We had nightly turndown service with a chocolate on the pillow. Food and drinks were offered at the lounge, but the selection was limited and no different from the offerings elsewhere at the resort. Finally, we did get a large Polynesian Resort chocolate bar on our last day. Although all of it was nice, looking back, the money would have been better spent on signature dining.
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The allure of these coveted concierge-level villas still puzzles me. As an AKV owner, I find the value villas to be the true treasure at this resort. At 7:58am, on the 11-month mark, I am logging into the DVC website for a value villa, not a concierge villa.

While having the concierge-level villas may cost me more in maintenance fees, I would like to think that the extra amount I am paying is allowing me to stay longer in a value villa.

I should mention that we had a garden-view concierge room, in the Hawaii longhouse, at Disney's Polynesian Resort in 2003. Honestly, the cost far exceeded the service and amenities. We had nightly turndown service with a chocolate on the pillow. Food and drinks were offered at the lounge, but the selection was limited and no different from the offerings elsewhere at the resort. Finally, we did get a large Polynesian Resort chocolate bar on our last day. Although all of it was nice, looking back, the money would have been better spent on signature dining.
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With all the talk about all AKV members paying so a select few can stay CL, I was wondering who really pays for concierge? A quick look at the points chart shows you need 70 to 90 more points for a week in CL vs. SV. At $5.67 per point, that's about $453.60 per unit per week, or $117,936 per year for all 5 2br units. Does it cost more than this to run CL? Hard to believe daily cleaning and snacks could cost that much.

If it costs more than that, they should adjust the points chart so CL guests pays a higher share of MF (by using more points).
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Some people like club level because they aren't really spending time in the parks as much as they are spending time in the resort. They can sit in the lounge and partake of the lounge offerings while they read a book or play/work on their laptop and soak up the environment.
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With all the talk about all AKV members paying so a select few can stay CL, I was wondering who really pays for concierge? A quick look at the points chart shows you need 70 to 90 more points for a week in CL vs. SV. At $5.67 per point, that's about $453.60 per unit per week, or $117,936 per year for all 5 2br units. Does it cost more than this to run CL? Hard to believe daily cleaning and snacks could cost that much.

If it costs more than that, they should adjust the points chart so CL guests pays a higher share of MF (by using more points).
Points have nothing to do with the cost of running CL. The AKV owners pay for the CL amenities just like BLT owners pay for TOTWL through their dues. The guest using those amenities doesn't pay for the privilege, the owners do.

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