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Old 10-31-2012, 11:59 PM   #31
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Am I the only odd parent, there is no way I would have let my daughter wander around DL (or anywhere else for that matter) on her own at 14, Now at almost 18 she knows I am over protective but she appreciates how much we treasure her.

I won't either, in case of an unforeseen event, such as, earthquake, ride 'out' that is stuck for a long time with child (or adult) in it, etc. etc. What if one of the adult parents (or God forbid, a child) had a serious situation occur and had to have medical care, etc... to me, it is just much easier if the kids stay with a parent... We are from Alberta too, and medical issues that take place in the USA, even with insurance, can be scary. We had a $1000 Dr. bill one time when my son and I needed care for strep throat - luckily it was eventually reimbursed by our medical insurance. If it had been something more serious, I wonder what the outcome would have been.

I also love that when we are in Disneyland, it is such a nice family time... that being said, DH and I do sometimes each take one of our kids with us to spend time with just them, going on rides THEY like, that some others in the family don't, etc.... DH and I have a T-mobile sim card for our unlocked phones, to be able to communicate freely with each other. We also use whatsapp on our droid phones to text back to family for free on the $1.50 data plan (daily) that T-mobile offers. Pics. too! Mouse wait! Amazing! Anyway, I digress, lol...

Works for us quite well to always have one adult with each child. (soon to be 16 and 10 & 1/2 years old.) Or... all of us together, exploring the parks at a leisurely pace, and seeing what the kids want to do.

I understand why people let their kids go off on their own - at the same time, I understand why some choose to keep their family together as much as possible.


All this being said, both of my kids can map out DL better than I can - and they know the meeting place is the Partner's Statue if they should get lost, as well, they know to tell a cast member, and they know our cell phone #'s when in the USA - but in my heart of hearts, I could not let the two venture off on their own - just in case!

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I don't think kids feel they are treasured 'more' if they can or can not go off on their own - I suspect it is how much respect you give your daughter that shows her how much you treasure her, JennyN... Obviously, she knows she is cherished, and you are a good Mom! I see your point - some kids (VERY young) are allowed to roam the parks on their own, cut lines, act like, well, 'hooligans' for lack of a better term, lol - and some of those parents, TBH, really maybe do not care. There are lots of DISers though who would let their kids roam DL parks which have excellent security, etc., and feel ok about it, and for them, it does work.

To each their own, I guess.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:26 AM   #32
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Well my opinion it depends on how long you are staying like the first day just let them get all there energy out and go by them selves. Then they will slow down and then you guys can have a family oriented vacation. Also Disneyland is complety safe and i trust it very much so in my opinion i think it would be fine.FYI this is my first post ever so im new so sorry for any miss leading information. ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:07 AM   #33
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My parents started letting me going to Disneyland alone at around age twelve. My mom would drop my friends and I off in the morning and pick us right up at around midnight. Our eighth grade graduation trip was also to Disneyland, where the school allowed us to us to wander alone.

Now I'm 17 and since my parents are not much Disney fans, they drop me and my friends off and we just explore and have one of the parents pick us up when we want to leave. Even though I'm on my own, I do NOT ever act rude or immature in the parks; cutting lines, being loud, profanity, pushy, ect... I might not be with my family, but that doesn't mean I can just disobey rules.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:05 AM   #34
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For me, it would depend on the maturity and responsibility level of each particular kid. *Honestly, the main thing that makes me leery of sending the under 12 crowd off without at least one person of the same sex, is that they'd then have to go into the bathrooms alone. *I don't know about Canada...but the U.S. has had some pretty horrific things happen to little kids at the hands of child predators after going into a public bathroom alone. *Now, I've NEVER, EVER heard of ANYTHING happening to a kid in a Disneyland bathroom. *I'm hoping that if there was an event like that, the public would be made aware? *But...I don't know. *
In over 90% of child abuse cases, the child is abused by someone they know. If you want to keep your kids safe, the way to do it is not to assume the other families in Disney bathrooms are predators, or might be predators,but to teach your kids how to keep themselves safe from a predator, when it's someone they know and trust. Talk to them about what sort of touching is ok and what isn't, and make sure they understand that if someone touches them in a way that isn't ok, they can tell you about it, even if the person who touched them told them not to, or that it was a secret. And make sure you believe them and take them seriously if they do tell you something like that. Take notice if your kids don't want to be around someone - and don't force them to be.

And even if you don't want them going to the bathroom on their own in other places, like at a shopping centre or at a gas station, I've never been into a bathroom at Disney that didn't have a dozen families with kids in there. Plenty of people around who would stop a predator doing anything to a kid - just by being there, even if you don't think other parents would step in to stop a kid being abused.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #35
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I think I would be comfortable as long as both kids had phones. That way if they accidently get seperated, you can get a hold of them...and they can get a hold of you. Instead of calling every half hour I'd have them call and check in after each ride...and let you know which ride they"ll be on next. Half an hour could be the same SM wait line! Plus texting is great in noisy places.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:22 AM   #36
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When we were in DL I could barely hear my cell phone ring over the rides/attractions/people etc.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #37
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If you have iPhones there is an app called friend finder and when activated will show you right where they are as long as they have the phone with them. But you and them both would need iPhones.
False sense of security at least from a serious worry stand point like kid napping

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I wonder where they were on our last trip?
We saw a large man pick up his girlfriend(?) and spin around in the middle of the walkway coming within an inch of dropping her into a stroller with a baby in it. When the dad pushing the stroller (rightfully) said "Watch out!", the large man started throwing f-bombs around and threatening the dad. All in front of my kid and many other young children. The father finally gathered his family and walked away from the insults being thrown at him.

This took place in front of Midway Mania, in broad daylight.
disneys security as a whole is a joke starting with the bag check line
Our last trip Disney employees, yes employees stood by and watched a Brazilian tour group phyically assaulted a 7 yr old, security was called by people in the crowd and over an hr later they still were not there

If you want to be safe and you want your kids safe then everyone needs to be smart and know how to handle different situations
I personally would allow a 14 to go off for a bit depending on crowds and such
9 maybe, together sure
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Am I the only odd parent, there is no way I would have let my daughter wander around DL (or anywhere else for that matter) on her own at 14, Now at almost 18 she knows I am over protective but she appreciates how much we treasure her.
So according to this I don't treasure my children?

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When we were in DL I could barely hear my cell phone ring over the rides/attractions/people etc.
My phone is always on vibrate (except at night when I'm sleeping) so even with the ringtone on it vibrates so I know someone is calling. At DL I usually have my phone in my back pocket, unless we are there when it's raining, then I usually have it in my coat pocket.

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False sense of security at least from a serious worry stand point like kid napping

disneys security as a whole is a joke starting with the bag check line
Our last trip Disney employees, yes employees stood by and watched a Brazilian tour group phyically assaulted a 7 yr old, security was called by people in the crowd and over an hr later they still were not there

If you want to be safe and you want your kids safe then everyone needs to be smart and know how to handle different situations
I personally would allow a 14 to go off for a bit depending on crowds and such
9 maybe, together sure
I have never ever seen anything like that at DL/DCA/DTD and I've been there a lot. In the instances we've seen security called they arrive in minutes depending on their location.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:03 PM   #39
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Yeah, that's what my DH said (about the local midway). We let them go on the rides and play games for a few hours by themselves this year at the Calgary Stampede (noticed you were from BC so I figured you'd know what that is lol) and they were fine.

We will have our cell phones with us so I guess they could always call if they needed anything before our scheduled meet time. I'm probably being over protective....as usual. lol

You will run into way more crazies at the Stampede then in Dl, saying that we just got back If my son(10) wanted to do a ride, and went in the SR line, I was fine with it. We made a meeting point around the area, we gave him some more freedom this trip, going here and there on his own with us close by, he did great.

Only you know your kids and if they can handle the responsiblity of being on their own. Have a good time!
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I would let them as long as one of them has a phone (or borrow one of the adults' phone while they are off) and they stick together at all times. IF they were to get separated have a designated meeting spot (I like Snow White's Wishing well because it is out of the way and hardly ever crowded. )I was off in parks like Six Flags and Disneyland when I was 10 as long as i stayed with my sister who was 12. If they are responsible and are fully away of the dangers of what could happen if they get split up. Have check in times every few hours or so and if they are not there on time don't let them go off again for the day. That's my experience. Kids want to feel like you trust them and are big enough to do things on their own. You give a little, they give a little and there will be minimal arguments and fighting.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:52 PM   #41
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How old were your kids before you allowed them to wander DL by themselves?

My daughter is 14 and my son is 9 (almost 10). They have done other parks or midways closer to home by themselves but DL is so much larger. They are insisting that we allow them to go off on their own and that they'll be fine, I'm just overreacting, etc. etc. etc. Of course they are promising me everthing -- we'll stick together, we'll check in every 30 minutes, we'll be on time for reservations, we won't go by ourselves the wholeeeeeee time (in reaction to my comment that we are on a FAMILY VACATION! lol). You know, the usual for kids that age.

What do all of you think? I know my kids are responsible, smart, and have a good head on their shoulders but I just don't know. DL is so huge! lol
My issue with this would start with my 14 and 9 year old insisting anything... But that might just be me!

I'd be likely to let the 14 year old go with a friend of the same age... Bur not really with the 9 yr old.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:49 AM   #42
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I think it really depends upon the child whether they are mature enough to handle the responsibility of going on their own. Ask yourself this. Do you currently allow them to wander the grocery store or department store alone? As you said, Disneyland is much larger, but if they handle that okay and feel comfortable on their own and get back to you when they are supposed to, perhaps they are ready.

I will be honest I am too tired tonight to read through all of the replies, but I did see someone post about the what ifs, earthquake, accident and the child needed medical attention, etc. I would keep that in mind when making your decision and perhaps only allow short jaunts on their own. Have planned times to meet back and tell them to check the time on their phone often and if they will not be back on time due to lines to let you know.

Make sure they know what to do in the even that you do not respond to your cellphone because you do not hear it or do not feel it if you put it on vibe, believe me, this has happened to me at the parks. Also, tell them what to do if they lost the phone or the phone battery died or just bad reception and could not make a call. I would have them go directly to City Hall in the event that they can't reach you, and if you could not reach them, eventually you would find them there.

After today's tragic events, it does bring to mind that there are crazies out there and I do remember a couple of things that happened at the resorts that were certainly unexpected. Several years ago there was an incident at the Grand Californian Hotel where my husband encountered someone who was naked in the elevator. I had almost had my son run up to the room to get what we had forgotten when my husband said he would go, it was pretty late at night and obviously they were drunk. There was a report of an almost child abduction at World of Disney a few years back as well. I am not a paranoid person but again just consider everything before sending them off on their own.

Do they each have a phone to carry? Just wondering what if they get separated while walking through a crowd or one uses the bathroom and the other comes out and can't find the other for whatever reason. I am a planner like you so I figure you will want to have all your bases covered. Tell them each what to do if they end up losing track of one another.

All of that being said, we have let our son go on his own around the age of 12 (I believe) but he had also been to Disney many many times and knows his way around the park very well. He has always been just fine. Have a safe and fun trip!
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:31 AM   #43
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So according to this I don't treasure my children?
My daughter just shook her head. I think one of the most important things we can teach our kids is independence. I really think it depends on the kids. My younger son is ADHD, but I also know he respected his older sister, and he respected his independence. And they created a bond. My younger daughter is Aspergers. She stayed with me until she was 14. At 14, I did allow her to go with a sibling. She needed to learn independence, and it was a safe environment.

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I have never ever seen anything like that at DL/DCA/DTD and I've been there a lot. In the instances we've seen security called they arrive in minutes depending on their location.
I have to agree with you. I have always been very surprised at how fast security, or undercover security, arrives at a scene.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:59 AM   #44
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My kids were 11 and 9 when I started letting them run ahead of us to ride something. We'd meet them at the exit. They had a cell phone with them, I'm sure I wouldn't have been as comfortable if that hadn't been the case. They also have been raised going to Disneyland a couple times per month, so I trust that they know their way around, and who to see or where to go if an issue arises.

They're 12 and 14 now and we've never let them go to the park alone, but I wouldn't be against the idea. We just live far enough away that, if I'm going to drive down there, I'm going to Disney, too. Lol. To be honest, I really can't imagine NOT letting my 14 year old walk around Disney alone. In just 2 short years she will be a driver, and 4 years she will be expected to navigate the world alone. Walking through Disneyland alone at 14 seems a perfectly logical stepping stone to me.

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Old 12-17-2012, 07:41 PM   #45
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honestly I was 15 or when I flew down to disneyland (from nor cal) with a 14/15 year old friend stayed the night by ourselves for 2 or 3 days and went to disneyland by ourselves and it went fine. I even stayed out late because the indiana jones ride had just opened. I don't know if I would do that for my kids (they youngest is 6) but I could definitely see them at the very least being 12 and going around the park themselves. I think it really depends upon their maturity and sense of direction. Also their ability to follow directions. Meaning you want freedom to wander around fine but you better be where I say to meet up (or at the very least give me a heads up to tell my why not) or big trouble.
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