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Old 10-23-2012, 01:55 PM   #16
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For two adults (DH and I) we budget $100/day for 7 days. I came home with about $170 left in the food account.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:56 PM   #17
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Read up on and consider the discount plan Tables in Wonderland
That's the one we've always used because it's a straight 20% off most every place we've ever eaten in the parks and resorts! The other plans are way too much food for us and too much calculating credits, etc. to suit our style
I can't say I'd ever do WDW simply OOP when there are other options
Just an FYI:TIW is only available for Florida residence, AP holders and DVC members. Many here have been led astray believing they can purchase the card when they get to WDW only to find out that they don't qualify for it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:03 PM   #18
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We are doing the dining plan for our February trip because our daughter and her family are doing it. I have purposely booked a bunch of expensive TS meals just so I get my money's worth. Even with that, I'm still not 100% convinced that the DDP is cheaper, especially since I wouldn't have gone to those restaurants in the first place without the DDP.
I think this is the case with alot of people, feeling like they have to eat more than they normally would just to get their money's worth (or make the most of "free" dining.) Seriously, how many people would normally order an appetizer, entree and a dessert? I don't think this is the kind of eating that the OP refers to as "healthy." My guess (since I've never done the dining plan) is that most people eat way more at Disney on the DP than they do at home. We split alot of our meals, eat at odd times, and sometimes skip meals because we're just not hungry. If you get the dining plan and are pinned down to ADRs made 180 days in advance, it also has an impact on your touring plans. Our next trip, we have 3 ADRs scheduled over 8 park days. The rest of the time we'll wing it. I like that flexibility, especially with the new Fastpass enforcement rules.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:08 PM   #19
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Thanks everyone! This definitely gives me a few things to think about. I think my original thought of $200 per day (times 6 days) for food and souvenirs should be close to realistic for us. I am going to look at some of the menu's and get a better idea just to be prepared (also to have a short list of CS for each park that we could eat at). (Was planning for about $200 for souvenirs).

I know that some days we will do two or three CS and others will be one TS and one CS and some snacks. So some days could be closer to $100 and some will be closer to $200.

I really don't feel that the DDP would be a good option for us. I'm a vegetarian, DH eats vegetarian about 80% of the time and DS could live on chicken fingers and pepperoni pizza. I would like the flexibility to share meals, order myself or dh a kids meal and ds an adult meal if we so desire, have appetizers for a meal, etc, etc. We also aren't really big dessert with meals people (anymore). I have lost 90lbs this year so far, so am wanting to save my splurges for things like Ghiradelli ice cream and Babycakes Cupcakes rather than being faced with the option of dessert each meal.

Now to wade through the menu's and pick a few ADR's!

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Old 10-23-2012, 02:09 PM   #20
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I am surprised to see so many people say to go with the dining plan. We had the dining plan for our April/May 2012 trip and the only way that it made sense for us was that we booked expensive meals or ordered the most expensive entree. For our January 2013 trip I have decided to go out of pocket, after receiving a great deal of advice from experienced DISers. We liked the convenience of prepayment with the dining plan, but felt like certain things were "off limits" in order to make the dining plan worth the money we paid.

In order to make the dining plan "worth it" we scheduled ADRs every night, but on this trip we are only making a several ADRs that are most important to us because we don't want to be tied to certain parks at certain times. I think planning ahead where you are going to eat helps to make the cost of the DP make sense.

I think it's very hard to come out on top financially with the dining plan unless you order the steak (or similar $30 meal) every night, or book a few character meals. I'm looking forward to ordering some vegetarian dishes and appetizers this time! And we won't have a fridge full of counter service desserts at the end of our trip!
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:39 PM   #21
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:52 PM   #22
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Just an FYI:TIW is only available for Florida residence, AP holders and DVC members. Many here have been led astray believing they can purchase the card when they get to WDW only to find out that they don't qualify for it.
I thought I read that somewhere...thanks for confirming!!!!!!
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:56 PM   #23
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And we won't have a fridge full of counter service desserts at the end of our trip!
Major perk of OOP: NO MORE CS DESSERTS!!!!!

lol those things are struggling !!!!!
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I have lost 90lbs this year so far, so am wanting to save my splurges for things like Ghiradelli ice cream and Babycakes Cupcakes rather than being faced with the option of dessert each meal.
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we have only had "free dining" and would never pay for dining plan-it's just not worth it-as we are also lighter eaters-whilst we occasionally have dessert. it is certainly not with every meal nor even every day.
we always have credits remaining at the end of our vacation and the majority of our snacks are water,diet cokes and fruit.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:20 PM   #25
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Avoid the dining plan. You'll save money and aggravation by not being on it. (CS desserts, left-over snacks, reservation stress, etc)..
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #26
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I would be very cautious with the advice of those who reflexively reach for the DDP. The Dining Plan is not about saving money. It is about pre-paid convenience. Yes, you can manipulate your meals the way "extreme couponers" manipulate coupons and make the system work to your financial benefit. But the question becomes: Is this really about saving $10 per day, or is it about eating the way your family wants to eat. If you really love the appetizer offerings on a menu and would be happy making a meal out of those, you will save money over the DDP. But more importantly, on the DDP, those doors are shut to you unless you add on OOP costs, which blows the whole DDP savings concept out the window. If you are dreading the thought of yet another slice of cheese cake for dessert, but are lamenting the fact that you couldn't get the goat cheese ravioli appetizer, then the DDP savings are irrelevant. If the three of you could split an order of ribs and an order of chicken at Flame Tree and be perfectly content, then you save money over the DDP which requires you to pay for a CS meal for each person in the family. Yes, if your family eats every morsel of food provided by the DDP, and you maximize your selections by opting for the priciest snacks and entrees, you will save on the DDP. But if you surrender just once during the week and think to yourself..."all I want right now is a green salad and some water", then the DDP will cost you extra money. This is why you have to look at things from an individual standpoint. Familes that dismember and share Mickey Waffles do better off the Plan. People who eat everything offered on the Plan do better on it. No way for us to know which camp you fall into. You have to do that math.

As far as guideline for OOP costs, figure on the following:

We always buy groceries at Publix and eat breakfast in our room as we get ready for the day. I can't tell you the last time I paid Disney prices for breakfast, so I can't help you here. For us, we spend around $60 in groceries for a full week. So we figure around $10 per day.

A typical CS lunch (combo meal) will run around $16 per person. We are also a family of three, and we usually get two meals to split among three people, and an extra straw. We find the large drink size to be more than enough such that three people can drink from two cups. So our lunches for three people run around $32-$34 per day.

So far, we have spent around $42 or so per day. (We rarely buy snacks, but for the sake of argument, I will subtract out $5 per day on average just in case the kid wants popcorn.) A budget of $150 per day would leave us with roughly $103 for dinner. Two appetizers split among three people will cost around $25. At TS restaurants, we will typically get a single dessert to share. That will cost around $7. That leaves $71 for three people to order main courses. In many circumstances, this is just about right. At higher end places, this is not enough. Add in tax, tip and wine, and it isn't nearly enough.

But here's the rub. We don't do a TS every single day. There are days when we double up on CS meals (such as MK days) when there aren't any TS restaurants that interest us. So here is where the math gets tricky. The average daily cost would come to $150 per day, even though not one single day came close to that precise number. And this is where the DDP fails us. On days when we eat light, we don't get the most value out of the DDP. And on days when we "go big", there isn't enough flexibility or credits in the DDP to account for our three course meals. For example, imagine a two day trip on the DDP where you have 2 CS and 2 TS credits. On day one, you go to the MK and eat at Columbia Harbor House and Pecos Bill's as your two meals. Your two CS credits are gone. On day two, you go to dinner at the California Grill and you add some appetizers to your dinner. Your two TS credits are now gone, and lunch that day as well as the appetizers has to be paid OOP. So you spent over $300 for the meal plan, ($50 per person per day for 3 people x 2 days), plus around $34 for an OOP lunch and $25 for appetizers for a total of $359. If you bought everything OOP as described above, your three CS meals would come to around $102. Your appetizers and dessert at CG would run you $32 ($25+$7) for a running total of an even $134. Even if everyone bought a $40 entree at the CG for dinner, your grand total would still only be $254. And before people jump all over this, I could just as easily concoct a two-day scenario where the DDP pays dividends. Which is why EVERY PERSON HAS TO DO THE MATH BASED ON A REALISTIC PREDICTION OF WHAT THEY MIGHT EAT. That statement will always be true.
I agree with this statement. We have done the DDP twice and liked it (especially the convenience) but for our upcoming trip we are paying OOP. We looked at the menus on allears.net and calculated what we're likely to spend on the meals we plan to have on this trip. We are easily saving money going OOP and may save even more if we share some meals (or if DD and DS share some meals - which they should be able to do often as DD4 is not a big eater). When also taking into account the room only AAA discount we were able to apply to our room (which we couldn't have used if doing a package with DDP) we are definately coming out ahead.

It really does depend on what and where your family will eat. Our last trip, DD was 2 so we didn't have to purchase the meal plan for her. We did tons of character meal buffets which were more expensive and she was able to eat at the buffet for no additional charge. On that trip I think we did well with the DDP.

I suggest looking at the menus online and breaking down the costs of what you'd realistically order to see what makes sense for you.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:56 PM   #27
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For my birthday trip I budgeted $50 per day per person not including alcohol. I plan on eating one CS and one TS per day. On the days I have a buffet planned I don't plan on CS lunches just a snack. (Since buffets are pricey and I want to get my monies worth!!)

I have never been on DDP but the idea of dessert with every meal turns me off. its just not the way I like to eat (well...I love dessert, but eating it every at meal does not sound fun) also my family enjoys appetizers! Plus, we have a TiW card so that is a major reason why we chose not to get the DDP.
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I definitely like free dining because we usually stay at ASMo so the savings on food is greater than the RO discount. (Based on what I would actually spend OOP),

If I have to pay for dining, it's not worth it.
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I definitely like free dining because we usually stay at ASMo so the savings on food is greater than the RO discount. (Based on what I would actually spend OOP),

If I have to pay for dining, it's not worth it.
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If we are OOP I do watch the expenses...fewer desserts and bottled drinks, etc. We can eat much cheaper than the cost of the dining plan.

But OP said you weren't big eaters. If I'm paying OOP, I will often get kids meals at CS places....not to save money but because it is a much better serving size. Even on DDP I will often ask for kids sides (like grapes) instead of fries or whatever.
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If we are OOP I do watch the expenses...fewer desserts and bottled drinks, etc. We can eat much cheaper than the cost of the dining plan.

But OP said you weren't big eaters. If I'm paying OOP, I will often get kids meals at CS places....not to save money but because it is a much better serving size. Even on DDP I will often ask for kids sides (like grapes) instead of fries or whatever.
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I definitely like free dining because we usually stay at ASMo so the savings on food is greater than the RO discount. (Based on what I would actually spend OOP),

If I have to pay for dining, it's not worth it.
totally agree with this. This is us too! we stay at the values most of the time so free dining is a much better deal than the room discount.

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