Disney Information Station Logo

Go Back   The DIS Discussion Forums - DISboards.com > Disney Trip Planning Forums > disABILITIES!
Find Hotel Specials & DIScounts
 
facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS UpdatesDIS email updates
Register Chat FAQ Tickers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read





Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-10-2012, 10:38 AM   #61
Paula Sedley-Burke
Proud to believe in Rainbows and Unicorns...
 
Paula Sedley-Burke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 4,834

Quote:
Originally Posted by WheeledTraveler

Nothing like RADAR in the US. I do want to point out, though, too that it's perfectly easy to get a RADAR key without proving that you need it, or at least was a few years ago. I do need one, but rather than trying to sort it once I was over on holiday, I ordered one off the RADAR website and had it delivered to a friend in the UK. I could have had it delivered to the US, but it made more sense to send it to my friend since he was meeting me pretty immediately after I arrived. The only place where RADAR asked for proof of disability was if you wanted to have VAT-exemption. I've never particularly noticed anyone using a RADAR toilet that was kept locked who didn't have an obvious need, but I have seen mums with buggies using ones that were kept unlocked. (Luckily for me there are 2 or 3 RADAR toilets right next to each other where I've seen this, so it didn't cause problems for me.)
Actually that is a good point. It probably is easy to get a RADAR key.
__________________
Dixie Landings 2000, Port Orleans 08, SSR 09, SSR 10, SSR 11, Disney Dream 2011, SSR 12, Disney Dream 2012 , AKL 13, SSR 13 , VWL 13, Disney Dream 2013, POR 2014, SSR 14, AKV 14, BCV 14, , Disney Dream 2014, VGF 14, AoA 15, Disney Magic 15, SSR 14, VGF 14

May 2014 Pre trip report - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3236860

Sep/Oct 2014 Post trip report - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3337960

( Me ) , (DW)

Paula
Paula Sedley-Burke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 03:56 PM   #62
buffettgirl
The whole tag thing, so 1990's internet *****. Why can't you say "f o r u m"?
 
buffettgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: GreatWoods parking lot.
Posts: 3,131

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paula Sedley-Burke View Post
Pay toilets are awful.. You really do not want those! You have plenty of rest rooms in the US. I never have to worry about funding loose change!
The pay toilets were all removed sometime in the mid 70's, some by bans, some by other laws. Almost no one ever paid. It was a common sight in the ladies room to have a mom or grandmother send her own young kid (or any young kid in the vicinity) scampering under the door to unlock the stall from the inside so everyone could use it for free. Being a young child in the mid 70's I did my share of scampering. LOL

But I think they're different than the pay ones you have in the UK. these were actual pay locks on the doors of the individual stalls.
buffettgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
|
The DIS
Register to remove

Join Date: 1997
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,000,000
Old 10-10-2012, 10:52 PM   #63
North of Mouse
DIS Veteran
 
North of Mouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,123

Have not posted here before, but have been reading some of these posts, as I was truly interested to see what others do in these situations.

I have to say for elevators, we all wait turns. No special front of the line for anyone. For HC stalls in restrooms where there is a line, if there is no visible HC person in line near me, I will definitely head to the HC accessible stall.
North of Mouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2012, 11:47 PM   #64
POOHsie
DIS Veteran
 
POOHsie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wheeling, WV
Posts: 5,034

Quote:
Originally Posted by North of Mouse View Post
Have not posted here before, but have been reading some of these posts, as I was truly interested to see what others do in these situations.

I have to say for elevators, we all wait turns. No special front of the line for anyone. For HC stalls in restrooms where there is a line, if there is no visible HC person in line near me, I will definitely head to the HC accessible stall.
Speaking of "we all wait turns for elevators," have you ever been on a cruise ship in an ECV, and tried to get on an elevator without an able-bodied companion at your side? My last cruise, in 2007, there was a bank of six elevators, 3 on each side. You could see which elevator was heading to your floor, and I would situate my ECV sort-of in front of that elevator so as to not block people who were getting off the car. As the crowd got off, a crowd of able-bodied would push to get on 'til the car was full, and my ECV was left behind. I got stuck in this situation for usually 20-30 minutes at a time, multiple times a day, every day. I talked to a crew member about this, and I was told that it was very common. He suggested a certain elevator in another area of the ship, where there wasn't a crowd. Sure enough, there were others there in wheelchairs and ECVs, waiting for the elevator. However, we were getting on the cars.

So no, I don't necessarily agree that "we all wait turns for elevators." At least, not on cruise ships. I don't plan to go on a cruise again because of the inaccessible elevators.
__________________
Bay Lake Tower | Port Orleans Riverside | Port Orleans French Quarter | Caribbean Beach | Coronado Springs | Cabins at Ft Wilderness | Pop Century | All Star Movies | WDW Dolphin | WDW Swan |
POOHsie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 03:29 AM   #65
Paula Sedley-Burke
Proud to believe in Rainbows and Unicorns...
 
Paula Sedley-Burke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 4,834

Quote:
Originally Posted by buffettgirl View Post
The pay toilets were all removed sometime in the mid 70's, some by bans, some by other laws. Almost no one ever paid. It was a common sight in the ladies room to have a mom or grandmother send her own young kid (or any young kid in the vicinity) scampering under the door to unlock the stall from the inside so everyone could use it for free. Being a young child in the mid 70's I did my share of scampering. LOL

But I think they're different than the pay ones you have in the UK. these were actual pay locks on the doors of the individual stalls.
Lol re scampering I can just picture that. When the public telephones in the UK use to take old style coins in the 70s you could use a coat hanger to activate the machine for hours lol. It use to think a coin had gone in. Not that I as an innocent child did such a thing...also you could reverse the charges to another public pay phone and nobody would have the bill. A loophole of British Telecom...
__________________
Dixie Landings 2000, Port Orleans 08, SSR 09, SSR 10, SSR 11, Disney Dream 2011, SSR 12, Disney Dream 2012 , AKL 13, SSR 13 , VWL 13, Disney Dream 2013, POR 2014, SSR 14, AKV 14, BCV 14, , Disney Dream 2014, VGF 14, AoA 15, Disney Magic 15, SSR 14, VGF 14

May 2014 Pre trip report - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3236860

Sep/Oct 2014 Post trip report - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3337960

( Me ) , (DW)

Paula
Paula Sedley-Burke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 08:36 AM   #66
ttintagel
DIS Veteran
 
ttintagel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,361

Quote:
Originally Posted by buffettgirl View Post
The pay toilets were all removed sometime in the mid 70's, some by bans, some by other laws. Almost no one ever paid. It was a common sight in the ladies room to have a mom or grandmother send her own young kid (or any young kid in the vicinity) scampering under the door to unlock the stall from the inside so everyone could use it for free. Being a young child in the mid 70's I did my share of scampering. LOL

But I think they're different than the pay ones you have in the UK. these were actual pay locks on the doors of the individual stalls.
IIRC, it was during the same road trip in which I first went to WDW that I encountered my first pay toilet! And yes, as the youngest in the group, I was assigned to scamper duty!
ttintagel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 08:48 AM   #67
Paula Sedley-Burke
Proud to believe in Rainbows and Unicorns...
 
Paula Sedley-Burke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 4,834

Quote:
Originally Posted by ttintagel View Post
IIRC, it was during the same road trip in which I first went to WDW that I encountered my first pay toilet! And yes, as the youngest in the group, I was assigned to scamper duty!
And so it was the amazing spider child was forever known as Scamper....
__________________
Dixie Landings 2000, Port Orleans 08, SSR 09, SSR 10, SSR 11, Disney Dream 2011, SSR 12, Disney Dream 2012 , AKL 13, SSR 13 , VWL 13, Disney Dream 2013, POR 2014, SSR 14, AKV 14, BCV 14, , Disney Dream 2014, VGF 14, AoA 15, Disney Magic 15, SSR 14, VGF 14

May 2014 Pre trip report - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3236860

Sep/Oct 2014 Post trip report - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3337960

( Me ) , (DW)

Paula
Paula Sedley-Burke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 09:06 AM   #68
Piper
DIS Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,892

Quote:
Originally Posted by POOHsie View Post
Speaking of "we all wait turns for elevators," have you ever been on a cruise ship in an ECV, and tried to get on an elevator without an able-bodied companion at your side? My last cruise, in 2007, there was a bank of six elevators, 3 on each side. You could see which elevator was heading to your floor, and I would situate my ECV sort-of in front of that elevator so as to not block people who were getting off the car. As the crowd got off, a crowd of able-bodied would push to get on 'til the car was full, and my ECV was left behind. I got stuck in this situation for usually 20-30 minutes at a time, multiple times a day, every day. I talked to a crew member about this, and I was told that it was very common. He suggested a certain elevator in another area of the ship, where there wasn't a crowd. Sure enough, there were others there in wheelchairs and ECVs, waiting for the elevator. However, we were getting on the cars.

So no, I don't necessarily agree that "we all wait turns for elevators." At least, not on cruise ships. I don't plan to go on a cruise again because of the inaccessible elevators.
I didn't go down to dinner on my cruise last week when my sister had a migraine for the same reason. I tried for about 10 minutes to go down the elevator and finally gave up and ordered room service!
Piper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 09:27 AM   #69
crashbb
DIS Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,479

Quote:
Originally Posted by POOHsie View Post
Speaking of "we all wait turns for elevators," have you ever been on a cruise ship in an ECV, and tried to get on an elevator without an able-bodied companion at your side? My last cruise, in 2007, there was a bank of six elevators, 3 on each side. You could see which elevator was heading to your floor, and I would situate my ECV sort-of in front of that elevator so as to not block people who were getting off the car. As the crowd got off, a crowd of able-bodied would push to get on 'til the car was full, and my ECV was left behind. I got stuck in this situation for usually 20-30 minutes at a time, multiple times a day, every day. I talked to a crew member about this, and I was told that it was very common. He suggested a certain elevator in another area of the ship, where there wasn't a crowd. Sure enough, there were others there in wheelchairs and ECVs, waiting for the elevator. However, we were getting on the cars.

So no, I don't necessarily agree that "we all wait turns for elevators." At least, not on cruise ships. I don't plan to go on a cruise again because of the inaccessible elevators.
The "we all wait turns for elevators" still holds true. The problem is - the other people weren't waiting their turns! Waiting for your turn, doesn't work if you are the only one following the rule.

I've that complaint from other DCL cruisers too. It certainly stinks.
crashbb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 11:25 AM   #70
North of Mouse
DIS Veteran
 
North of Mouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,123

Quote:
Originally Posted by POOHsie View Post
Speaking of "we all wait turns for elevators," have you ever been on a cruise ship in an ECV, and tried to get on an elevator without an able-bodied companion at your side? My last cruise, in 2007, there was a bank of six elevators, 3 on each side. You could see which elevator was heading to your floor, and I would situate my ECV sort-of in front of that elevator so as to not block people who were getting off the car. As the crowd got off, a crowd of able-bodied would push to get on 'til the car was full, and my ECV was left behind. I got stuck in this situation for usually 20-30 minutes at a time, multiple times a day, every day. I talked to a crew member about this, and I was told that it was very common. He suggested a certain elevator in another area of the ship, where there wasn't a crowd. Sure enough, there were others there in wheelchairs and ECVs, waiting for the elevator. However, we were getting on the cars.

So no, I don't necessarily agree that "we all wait turns for elevators." At least, not on cruise ships. I don't plan to go on a cruise again because of the inaccessible elevators.
Sorry, but I guess you can't "fix" inconsiderate and downright discourteous people. There is the same "mob mentality" when people board metros, etc. I was taught to be considerate, and usually watch out for those that miss their "turns" and try to help them, but unfortunately for most people it's "push and shove".

The same thing about boarding elevators - I try to stand back a little ways to let others get off, and invariably the "impatients" around me will try to get ahead of me. Sorry you have to face this, but it does happen to considerate able bodied people also.
North of Mouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 02:44 PM   #71
POOHsie
DIS Veteran
 
POOHsie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wheeling, WV
Posts: 5,034

Quote:
Originally Posted by Piper View Post
I didn't go down to dinner on my cruise last week when my sister had a migraine for the same reason. I tried for about 10 minutes to go down the elevator and finally gave up and ordered room service!
Quote:
Originally Posted by crashbb View Post
The "we all wait turns for elevators" still holds true. The problem is - the other people weren't waiting their turns! Waiting for your turn, doesn't work if you are the only one following the rule.

I've that complaint from other DCL cruisers too. It certainly stinks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by North of Mouse View Post
Sorry, but I guess you can't "fix" inconsiderate and downright discourteous people. There is the same "mob mentality" when people board metros, etc. I was taught to be considerate, and usually watch out for those that miss their "turns" and try to help them, but unfortunately for most people it's "push and shove".

The same thing about boarding elevators - I try to stand back a little ways to let others get off, and invariably the "impatients" around me will try to get ahead of me. Sorry you have to face this, but it does happen to considerate able bodied people also.
Glad(?) to know it wasn't just me with the cruise ship elevator problem. I am baffled why it occurs. I have been to big hotels, at big conventions, other places with large crowds waiting for the elevators, and always felt I had equal elevator access. Perhaps some people on cruise ships are intimidated by crowds and feel they have to "fend for themselves."

When I watched the videos from the Costa Concordia sinking, I imagined because I was in an ECV, I would be SOL getting assistance onto the lifeboats. Many able-bodied were left behind as the situation grew worse.
__________________
Bay Lake Tower | Port Orleans Riverside | Port Orleans French Quarter | Caribbean Beach | Coronado Springs | Cabins at Ft Wilderness | Pop Century | All Star Movies | WDW Dolphin | WDW Swan |
POOHsie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2012, 05:47 PM   #72
Emagine
DVC Member
 
Emagine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: DVC Mom smoothered in the Homeschool Room teaching 2 Autistically Wonderful Boys
Posts: 420

I had a lady at a local mall get snotty with me this summer. She was coming in as we were leaving. One it is rare I even go shopping. But both of my kids are Autistic. You know, can not see type deal. Well my 10 yr old is the worst. Will bolt, anxiety etc... From the publics view I took strollers and now a 10 yr old boy to the larger stall with me.

I always try to do that with one or both boys. When we do go in public their safety is first. But yep, it happens.
Emagine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #73
Threeboysandachickie
Make a Wish trip mommy
 
Threeboysandachickie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 184

This might sound a bit odd, but around here people leave the restroom doors open with the stroller in the open doorway essentially blocking the view. Until I had a disabled son who needed assistance with diapers as an older chid I never used the handicap stall. I even bring my seeing eye dog into the normal stall. Maybe people are more courteous here? Even at crowded sporting events where restroom lines are outrageous the large stall is left open for those who need it.
__________________
parents to: ds14 ds12 , Luke ds10 (wish kiddo) , and dd9






Visiting the darkside yearly since 2004
Staying Club RPR or HRH
Threeboysandachickie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 06:39 AM   #74
Kellykins1218
DIS Veteran
 
Kellykins1218's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
Posts: 836

Quote:
Originally Posted by Threeboysandachickie View Post
Maybe people are more courteous here? Even at crowded sporting events where restroom lines are outrageous the large stall is left open for those who need it.
You are just assuming that they don't need the stall. You don't get to make that call because, frankly, it's none of your business. You have no clue if they or their child has an unseen disability. My little ones "look" like typical kids that I could take into a regular stall. They aren't.
Kellykins1218 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2012, 10:12 AM   #75
Threeboysandachickie
Make a Wish trip mommy
 
Threeboysandachickie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Midwest
Posts: 184

Sorry I offended you. I also haves severely impaired son that looks normal. When he is with me (8 year of boy in woman's restroom) we Use the handicap stall. I was just saying that you don't need to close the door on their babies in the regular stall. That was the point of the OP. Wedge the stroller in the doorway and don't use the handicap stall fora parking garage. Obviously if you as the parent need it, use it. Otherwise use common courtesy, and leave it available for someone who needs it. Seen handicap or invisible doesn't matter to me. I am blind and my son is severely impaired and incontinent. He looks completely normal, I get lots of weird vibes from other women for having a large 8 year old boy in the women's lounge. It just doesn't bother me that much anymore.
__________________
parents to: ds14 ds12 , Luke ds10 (wish kiddo) , and dd9






Visiting the darkside yearly since 2004
Staying Club RPR or HRH
Threeboysandachickie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS Updates
GET OUR DIS UPDATES DELIVERED BY EMAIL



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:19 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Copyright © 1997-2014, Werner Technologies, LLC. All Rights Reserved.