Just back--Few Thoughts/Observation

[buffettgirl]

Originally Posted by EastYorkDisneyFan

This thread made me think of something I saw at a local mall this afternoon. There were about three groups of people with strollers getting on an elevator and right beside them was someone in a wheelchair. Now I can understand that the people with the strollers want to/ need to get down to the next level, but I think they should have let the person in the wheelchair on first.

Why?

[buffettgirl]

Originally Posted by kaytieeldr

Someone, sure. Every woman with a stroller? I think even the wizard of odds can't calculate the likelihood of that.

Honey, if EVERY woman with a stroller was using the handicap stall then there would be a wait a mile long. Most of the time people with babies swap off when they go into the bathroom. Not every person with every stroller goes into the rest room.

That said, you have zero clue why anyone using the stall needs the stall. You're making a HUGE assumption that the woman with the stroller has needs that are less than someone else. That's a huge huge assumption.

[jujube]

Originally Posted by EastYorkDisneyFan

This thread made me think of something I saw at a local mall this afternoon. There were about three groups of people with strollers getting on an elevator and right beside them was someone in a wheelchair. Now I can understand that the people with the strollers want to/ need to get down to the next level, but I think they should have let the person in the wheelchair on first.

Why would the person in the wheelchair go first?

[EastYorkDisneyFan]

Originally Posted by buffettgirl

Why?

I don't know I just think that making someone in a wheelchair having wait for an elevator when six people with three stroller squeeze into it is a but rude of the poe with the strollers.

[EastYorkDisneyFan]

Originally Posted by jujube

Why would the person in the wheelchair go first?

Maybe it's just me but anytime I see someone in a wheelchair trying to get on a subway or an elevator I think they should have the priority to use it over an able bodied person even if the do have a stroller.

[buffettgirl]

Originally Posted by EastYorkDisneyFan

I don't know I just think that making someone in a wheelchair having wait for an elevator when six people with three stroller squeeze into it is a but rude of the poe with the strollers.

If 6 people in strollers arrived at the elevator first, then they ride first. It's only rude if they pushed the person in the wheelchair out of the way.

[buffettgirl]

Originally Posted by EastYorkDisneyFan

Maybe it's just me but anytime I see someone in a wheelchair trying to get on a subway or an elevator I think they should have the priority to use it over an able bodied person even if the do have a stroller.

A subway is not an elevator. I would always let someone in a wheelchair go first to get on the subway as I figure i have far more dexterity to jump in quickly and quickly move around people. apples and oranges and none of it is Disney.

[EastYorkDisneyFan]

Originally Posted by buffettgirl

If 6 people in strollers arrived at the elevator first, then they ride first. It's only rude if they pushed the person in the wheelchair out of the way.

What I saw was someone get in that arrived after the wheelchair and I don't think they should have gotten in and also I don't think that all of the people with the strollers need to get in. Just one person with it would have been fine. As there is an escalator right next to the elevator.

[jujube]

Originally Posted by EastYorkDisneyFan

What I saw was someone get in that arrived after the wheelchair and I don't think they should have gotten in and also I don't think that all of the people with the strollers need to get in. Just one person with it would have been fine. As there is an escalator right next to the elevator.

It's dangerous trying to use an escalator with a stroller- very unwieldy.
You didn't say at first that someone with a stroller arrived after the wheelchair. It my opinion, it should be on a first come basis.

[EastYorkDisneyFan]

Originally Posted by jujube

It's dangerous trying to use an escalator with a stroller- very unwieldy.
You didn't say at first that someone with a stroller arrived after the wheelchair. It my opinion, it should be on a first come basis.

I wasn't suggesting that any one use the escalator with the stroller. What I mental was one of the two people that got on with the there strollers in each party could have gotten off to make room for the person in the wheelchair.

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[chryscrazy]

Guess what? If I were in line with 2 or more kids, even without a stroller, I would use the handicap stall if it were open. If I saw someone who was visibly handicapped behind me, I would let them go. If you get there after me, sorry, you can wait your turn.

I'm sorry that you think it is teaching kids to not follow rules. I'm unaware of any rule or law that says I must use a non handicapped stall. You and elevator lady seem to think that a person in a wheelchair or ecv should never have to wait for anything in life.

Don't think I'm not compassionate- my mom has a handicap tag in her car for my dad, and if he is not with her, or even if he is and is feeling well, I fuss at her for using it and urge her to find another space. I just don't think handicap= fastpass for life.

[stitchlovestink]

Originally Posted by chryscrazy

Guess what? If I were in line with 2 or more kids, even without a stroller, I would use the handicap stall if it were open. If I saw someone who was visibly handicapped behind me, I would let them go. If you get there after me, sorry, you can wait your turn.

I'm sorry that you think it is teaching kids to not follow rules. I'm unaware of any rule or law that says I must use a non handicapped stall. You and elevator lady seem to think that a person in a wheelchair or ecv should never have to wait for anything in life.

Don't think I'm not compassionate- my mom has a handicap tag in her car for my dad, and if he is not with her, or even if he is and is feeling well, I fuss at her for using it and urge her to find another space. I just don't think handicap= fastpass for life.

bolding is mine...
In MD, it is ILLEGAL to use a HC placard or plate that way. It is issued to an INDIVIDUAL and is to be used by that individual only. It is very annoying when the spouse or other family members see it as a 'free pass' when they don't have that person with them. It is a very hefty fine here for parking in a HC space without a placard and better yet if you are caught doing what your mom is doing they can confiscate the placard! The problem is enforcement! There is VERY little to none! And that is what is sad.
I really wish they could come up with a way to keep people like your mom from abusing the use of a spouse's HC placard. It is sickening.

[Kellykins1218]

I have 2 little ones who are autistic and I absolutely use the HC when they are in their stroller. Even if they weren't ASD I would still use it because you can't leave them alone outside the stall and sometimes it's impossible to do your business while your kids are trying to escape, looking under the stall wall at your neighbor etc. I rarely use the companion restroom with my one son because he can escape from ANY seatbelt in about 2 seconds. In the HC stall, I can catch him before he gets the door open. In the companion restroom, the door is too far from the toilet & I don't really want to make a dash for him, as he runs out the door, with my pants down. Oh, and believe me, he'd be gone before I could pull them up.

[kaytieeldr]

Originally Posted by buffettgirl

Honey, if EVERY woman with a stroller was using the handicap stall then there would be a wait a mile long. Most of the time people with babies swap off when they go into the bathroom. Not every person with every stroller goes into the rest room.

That said, you have zero clue why anyone using the stall needs the stall. You're making a HUGE assumption that the woman with the stroller has needs that are less than someone else. That's a huge huge assumption.

Apologies for thinking readers would understand that "every woman with a stroller" meant "every woman with a stroller who uses the handicapped stall in a restroom over any other possible resolution", honey.

[kellyw8863]

I hate threads like this because it makes people who have disabilities (or who travel with individuals with disabilities) seem discompassionate and entitled. As a parent whose child's disability has progressed to her requiring a wheelchair at times, I can assure (general) you that I would never judge a parent with a stroller who uses the HA stall if she is in line ahead of me. What is she supposed to do? Leave the baby in the stroller outside the stall? Rest the baby on the bathroom floor until she's finished doing her business? Neither is an option. Do I get a bit frustrated when I see a single, apparently able-bodied individual bounce into the HA stall when I'm standing there with my child in a wheelchair? Sure I do. But then I remind myself that as a parent of a child with an invisible illness, this person may also have health issues that aren't readily apparent. Maybe she has a history of UTIs with kidney involvement and can't wait for a regular stall to open up. Or maybe she has some type of bowel disease and the need to evacuate has the potential to become emergent.

Same thing with the elevator. A line is a line, and if I'm fifth in line, I'm fifth in line. It doesn't matter who is in front of me.