hoop de do closing

[anthony2k7]

Originally Posted by Michael623

Have you ever been to the Hotel Cheyenne? It is pretty weak. Definitely a notch below the All Stars. I can't imagine any DVC members being satisfied with that.

weak? i dunno about that, I personally love the theming of it, although would agree the service and facilities are pretty poor.

Its a million times better than the awful sante fe!!

A Hotel Cheyenne themed hotel at WL level (low end deluxe) would be very interesting I think.

[skier_pete]

"Bad rumor. Bad!"

Sticks it's nose in it.

"Look at what you've done!"

SkierPete

P.S. This is so far from true - HDDR is NOT closing. The prices they get away with charging at 3 shows a day for low-end food and a cast of six...never gonna happen.

[Fantasmiss]

Originally Posted by Michael623

Have you ever been to the Hotel Cheyenne? It is pretty weak. Definitely a notch below the All Stars. I can't imagine any DVC members being satisfied with that.

Seriously? I think it's great! Definitely my favourite place to stay near DLP. The customer service is a little rusty like, but no more than anywhere else in DLP.

[bom_noite]

Originally Posted by skier_pete

"Bad rumor. Bad!"

Sticks it's nose in it. "Look at what you've done!"

SkierPete

P.S. This is so far from true - HDDR is NOT closing. The prices they get away with charging at 3 shows a day for low-end food and a cast of six...never gonna happen.

Thank you Pete! Absolute Fodder - Uhhh I think!

Note to any reader - Disney is a Profit motivated company, think in those terms. If it was true - it would be closing cause it is empty! It ain't trust me! $65 per head at 300 / 400 folks? Got Ressies for four on the fifth try for a trip in Mid-December when the parks are fairly empty!

I am a DVC Member whose points never go far enough. I have cabined there, but, never camped there! Am considering it in the future. To those campers fearing a DVC - I would think it may be your absolute best friend:

• You only have to look at Google Earth / Maps to discover: My gosh - tons of unused land there! And, roads from the MK Highway / Main Entrance could be diverted to the area easily! Something will be put there eventually!
• Disney's theming and attention to detail would obviously prevent a Balcony hanging over a tent or camper. Other company's might - but, - despite the profit motivation - that is extremely un Disney like.
• I personally think that a DVC Resort would bring Entertainment, Shopping, Dining (Sit-Down and Quick Service) within walking distance of the camping? Trust me - we DVC'rs will not kick you out! Nor will Disney!
• A "Buffalo Junction" may mandate they keep the Camping theme in that area from now till the end of the world!

On the other hand:

WDW Management - and those in Burbank do not look at WDW as a warm friendly place. They look at it as a place which generates Revenue, Profits and Stock Price! Despite a bad economy, guys / gals in suits doubled the price of my 10 Day Park Hopper / No Exp ticket in 2 years! Trust me, they look at Campground profits also.

These folks salary is 100% dependent upon profit - and - they ask hard questions: How much revenue do those campers bring in? Is that huge tract of land making me money? If not, could I make more by putting a 5th park or mega resort on that huge portion of land and use another area for camping? Should we just eliminate camping altogether as it is not profitable? I do not know the answers to those questions - but - I do know this is how they think! They question it as Wall Street mandates it.

Be honest Campers: If WDW was built in 1995 would there be a Camp grounds? I am thinking NOT! Iger is paid millions to speculate on how to maximize the property he has: "What if I could put a park that attracts 20K per day and a hotel that holds 5000 vs. 500 campers on the same property?" Uhhh - Park and Hotel wins out!

Happy Campers: I have stayed in the Cabins before and feel it is one of the very special places WDW has to offer and would be heresy to modify or tamper with this area. And, would be the first one to hold my breath and write a scathing letter if they did anything to infringe on this extremely special area (for what little that means!)! WDW management is not your savior here - I sleep at night thinking Green Peace and other organizations would shame them out of any such notion!

Let me say: I am not anti-Disney or anti-business. I do think that there are 100's of thousands of folks on Dis-Boards and other sites who have "invested" in Disney heavily - and we should have a say! I personally believe in this very special place - I hope others do too!

I also believe that we "Believers" need to have a place to place our view on. I thank the DISBOARD's. After 490+ posts, the Disboard's are very dear to me! I also find them to be against anything Anti-Disney!

[North of Mouse]

I, for one, will not be losing any sleep over this rumor someone decided to throw out there. Hoop de doo is a *cash cow* for goodness sake, as is FW.

[chartle]

Two years ago there was a long thread on the camping board that talked about the proposed DVC property planed for the area between FW and Wilderness Lodge.

There were survey stakes hammered in the ground, bulldozers at the old River Country and even a trail balloon just this summer (an actual real balloon floated to check site lines).

The rumored refurb that never happened, scheduled for right about now, and this construction may be part of the rumor of HDDR closing permanently.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread....&highlight=dvc

[monique5]

This is a huge money maker. Reservations for 2/2013.

[CandyMandy]

Originally Posted by Michael623

Have you ever been to the Hotel Cheyenne? It is pretty weak. Definitely a notch below the All Stars. I can't imagine any DVC members being satisfied with that.

This is true, the Hotel Cheyenne is a gussied up Marriott Garden Inn. The only thing below it on the rung is the Hotel Santa Fe, which is a gussied up Days Inn:

[doconeill]

I don't think the Buffalo Junction DVC plans had anything to do with the HDDR rumor. It's really to far away. I believe it did involve relocation of the Tri-Circle-D Ranch.

It seems those plans fell flat anyways.

There seemed to be some leaked plans in April that involved construction on the opposite side - the eastern shoreline of FW - but they were unclear what they actually represented. It indicated a new Pavilion building, which could have been a relocation of the existing one on the west side.

[smidgy]

ahem!!! it is Hoop De Doo REVUE!!!! not "review".

a revue is a production ,including song and dance. you can "review" a "revue", but there is NO Hoop De Doo REVIEW.

sorry. drives me nuts!

[TowMater92]

Originally Posted by wruffy

I have heard the Hoop De Do Review at Fort Wilderness will be closing at the end of the year along with Trails End to make room for more DVC only areas, This means the beach and boat access will only be for DVC members only. So unfair to FW campers who love the campground.

"More DVC only areas"? Can you please tell me where there are any areas that are DVC only areas? I'm a DVC member and I have been for about 10 years and I still don't know of one DVC only area in any Disney Park, resort or any other area. Even if they did build a DVC resort there the campers at FW would be able to use the boat access. You're going a little over the top.

[Sammie]

Originally Posted by TowMater92

"More DVC only areas"? Can you please tell me where there are any areas that are DVC only areas? I'm a DVC member and I have been for about 10 years and I still don't know of one DVC only area in any Disney Park, resort or any other area. Even if they did build a DVC resort there the campers at FW would be able to use the boat access. You're going a little over the top.

The lounge at the top of Bay Lake Towers.

[Reddog1134]

Originally Posted by Sammie

The lounge at the top of Bay Lake Towers.

But haven't they been opening it up to additional guests lately due to lack of patrons?

[doconeill]

Originally Posted by Reddog1134

But haven't they been opening it up to additional guests lately due to lack of patrons?

I think it has been open to all DVC members, not just those staying at BLT, but I believe it is still restricted.

[Reddog1134]

I have no problem with them building DVC only facilities. Especially since I'm a DVC member.

However, I wouldn't want them to start restricting a pre-existing public area like a beach.