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Old 10-02-2012, 05:05 PM   #16
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The other option would be to put the vouchers you've already purchased away for a future year, and purchase the $399 tickets for this year (since those need to be activated before 2014). That just ties up the cash you paid for your current vouchers for a full year or more.
That's what I'm planning on doing, will just have to save those vouchers for another year.

I had emailed Disney about upgrading my voucher when I got there in Dec, their response was

Any Annual Pass that was purchased at a retail price less than $399 is
eligible to be upgraded to a Premium Annual Pass during the promotional
period, October 1 – December 31, 2012.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:42 PM   #17
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I had emailed Disney about upgrading my voucher when I got there in Dec, their response was

Any Annual Pass that was purchased at a retail price less than $399 is
eligible to be upgraded to a Premium Annual Pass during the promotional
period, October 1 – December 31, 2012.
How would one purchase a annual pass that was less than $399 in the first place? From what I understand these are current DVC discount prices...

Annual Pass $452.63 (Including Tax)
AP Renewal $410.03 (Including Tax)

Perhaps if you use the Renewal price, without tax, that would be under $399.

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:57 PM   #18
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How would one purchase a annual pass that was less than $399 in the first place? From what I understand these are current DVC discount prices...

Annual Pass $452.63 (Including Tax)
AP Renewal $410.03 (Including Tax)

Perhaps if you use the Renewal price, without tax, that would be under $399.

Correct. Must be $399 or less pre-tax. The adult renewal rate prior to the June 2012 price increase was around $385. Also the child AP (age 3-9) was approx the same $385 price before June.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:23 PM   #19
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I just sent DVC an email based on what I have read today.

If I had purchased a renewal I could upgrade. But since I purchased a new AP I can't????

I was fine until the above. If they hadn't let ANYONE upgrade no biggie but this is just bizarre. I said I didn't want an refund but I should not be penalized for paying MORE them my friend who was there at the same time as me...

I would encourage EVERYONE who is impacted to let them know that they are being stupid LOL!
Just remember when you are telling them they are stupid, that DVC did not make that decision, Disney Ticketing did. (actually it was probably Marketing that made the decision.)

And Disney ticketing is probably thinking we give you a $300 discount and you want to tell us we are stupid.

Just saying.

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:26 PM   #20
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Just remember when you are telling them they are stupid, that DVC did not make that decision, Disney Ticketing did.

And Disney ticketing is probably thinking we give you a $300 discount and you want to tell us we are stupid.

Just saying.
Right.

People demanding discounts on top of already discounted tickets.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:29 PM   #21
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Just remember when you are telling them they are stupid, that DVC did not make that decision, Disney Ticketing did.

And Disney ticketing is probably thinking we give you a $300 discount and you want to tell us we are stupid.

Just saying.
Personally I think the more sensible approach would be to not allow upgrades of ANY current tickets...but to allow unredeemed vouchers to be upgraded. And I say that as someone who is considering upgrading a current ticket.

I'm still a little dumbstruck that Disney is drawing a line in the sand regarding vouchers. A member could have literally purchased a voucher an hour before the perk was announced, and they will still be denied any sort of upgrade rights.

I'm keenly aware that rules are necessary and not everyone can "win" on every perk. But I still think they dropped the ball on this one. Not customer friendly at all.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:49 PM   #22
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How would one purchase a annual pass that was less than $399 in the first place? From what I understand these are current DVC discount prices...

Annual Pass $452.63 (Including Tax)
AP Renewal $410.03 (Including Tax)

Perhaps if you use the Renewal price, without tax, that would be under $399.

I have an AP voucher that cost $399 pre-tax. I bought it a couple of years ago to beat a price increase and for various reasons I have not redeemed it yet. So perhaps they are referring to AP vouchers purchased before the price rose above $399.

The current renewal price is still under $399 so if someone has a renewal voucher that could be applied toward a PAP.

I agree it would be better if they allowed people to exchange any current AP or AP voucher regardless of cost for the discounted PAP. Allowing some to do it and not others, particularly those who paid more to begin with, doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:12 AM   #23
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I am sure there is some obscure marketing and accounting reason for the decision, something probably none of us would agree with or even understand.

I guess it has to all equal out and since they can't give you money back on ticket purchases, they can't downgrade. I do know their money has to come out to the penny. I had a 2 cent mistake once on my bill and it was a huge deal to them.

They can upgrade because you pay the difference.

I do understand frustration, but I also know there have been other promotions that not everyone could take advantage of. With hundreds of thousands of members, sometimes that is just not possible.

The regular Annual Pass for DVC is $425 and the new one if $399, how would they account for $26 if they allowed anyone to exchange a AP voucher for the new PAP.

Where they messed up is when they decided to discount the PAP, they should have made them the same price or a dollar more.

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Old 10-03-2012, 07:49 AM   #24
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We upgraded our regular DVC AP's to the DVC PAP's at DHS a couple of days ago. Our AP's were renewals, which cost us $385 - which is less than the new price of $399. It was a very easy process - took about 5 minutes, and cost $14 per pass to upgrade.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:59 AM   #25
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We upgraded our regular DVC AP's to the DVC PAP's at DHS a couple of days ago. Our AP's were renewals, which cost us $385 - which is less than the new price of $399. It was a very easy process - took about 5 minutes, and cost $14 per pass to upgrade.
Thanks for the update. This is what we are hoping/planning to do next Friday when we arrive. We both have active renewed APs that cost less than the $399 new PAP. If it all works out, we plan to visit a water park. We haven't visited a water park in a long time, since the prices are too high and the discount for AP holders isn't very good.

Wouldn't it be nice if Disney would let folks who paid more than the $399 price (holding a voucher or an active AP) upgrade to the new PAP and take the overpayment of $26 and donate it to a charity. Just a thought!
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:13 AM   #26
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We upgraded our regular DVC AP's to the DVC PAP's at DHS a couple of days ago. Our AP's were renewals, which cost us $385 - which is less than the new price of $399. It was a very easy process - took about 5 minutes, and cost $14 per pass to upgrade.
Great news! We'll give it a try in November also.
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Just remember when you are telling them they are stupid, that DVC did not make that decision, Disney Ticketing did. (actually it was probably Marketing that made the decision.)

And Disney ticketing is probably thinking we give you a $300 discount and you want to tell us we are stupid.

Just saying.
My expereince is telling folks they are stupid is rarely helpful.

I just pointed out that this was NOT good Customer Service and that is something Disney prides itself on. I also indicated that if they hadn't let anyone upgrade this would have made sense but to say "you paid more so you can't have more benefits" was not good service
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:17 AM   #28
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Right.

People demanding discounts on top of already discounted tickets.
To be sure, Sammie's (quite appropriate) comments were directed at someone who was NOT demanding (or even asking) for a discount on top of a discount. They were actually asking to get less of a discount...
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The regular Annual Pass for DVC is $425 and the new one if $399, how would they account for $26 if they allowed anyone to exchange a AP voucher for the new PAP.
Write off the difference?

I can't speak to the sort of accounting controls Disney has in place today, but I do know that back in 2005 when the AP discount was first introduced they did allow such upgrades. The non-discounted price of an AP was about $7 more than a discounted PAP and the upgrades were permitted. Ticket reps were instructed that no refunds were to be issued but there were scattered reports of people even getting the money back.

I agree that a line had to be drawn in the sand. I just don't agree with where Disney decided to draw that line.

In our case, we have one child's AP which is eligible for an upgrade and two adult APs which are not. People with $425 vouchers are being told no upgrades while folks with $385 vouchers or MYW tickets can upgrade.

The policy almost seems petty on Disney's part. "Yes we will let you upgrade but only if you will give us more money in the process!" Forget the fact that the people they are turning-away already paid MORE than $399.

I had the same thought as you about the pricing. Too bad they didn't just make the PAP $426.
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To be sure, Sammie's (quite appropriate) comments were directed at someone who was NOT demanding (or even asking) for a discount on top of a discount. They were actually asking to get less of a discount...
When you buy a voucher it says that they are non-transferable and non-refundable. Even though they don't have to give you the cost difference between DVC AP and discounted PAP, they probably would still have to process it as a refund in their system, going against the policy you agreed to when you bought the voucher.
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