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Old 09-30-2012, 10:49 PM   #16
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A friend and I just got back from Disneyland. We were shocked at the number of times we saw young kids running around unsupervised. The topper was one mom who thought it was perfectly acceptable to put her son into the fountain in Toontown to use it as a swimming pool.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:48 AM   #17
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While I appreciate the thought of a 1 hour time slot for adults only I must disagree for the following reasons:

1) My kids have never acted unruly, I wouldn't allow it. So why penalize me for the behavior of others? I wouldn't be able to take advantage of adults only becuase my wife and I would not leave our kids in our room alone.

2) The TOTWL does not get enough business to further restrict traffic

3) This is Disney, you have to expect there to be kids most places

4) Pleasure Island used to be age restricted and it didn't work....
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:25 AM   #18
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While I appreciate the thought of a 1 hour time slot for adults only I must disagree for the following reasons:

1) My kids have never acted unruly, I wouldn't allow it. So why penalize me for the behavior of others? I wouldn't be able to take advantage of adults only becuase my wife and I would not leave our kids in our room alone.

2) The TOTWL does not get enough business to further restrict traffic

3) This is Disney, you have to expect there to be kids most places

4) Pleasure Island used to be age restricted and it didn't work....

Unfortunately I must disagree with your disagreement!

#1. I don't know your children and have no reason to doubt that they are well behaved. But how are you penalized? If TOWL is open from 5 to 12, you have access 6 out of the 7 hours with your children, including the time of the fireworks. The second part in which you state; "I wouldn't be able to take advantage of adults only becuase my wife and I would not leave our kids in our room alone." seems selfish. I'm guessing you didn't mean it that way, but the way it comes across is... "If I can't take advantage of it no one should." Perhaps a baby sitter for the hour would be a welcome night/hour out.

#2. Neither you nor I can definitively state what business levels would be. But you state that TOWL doesn't get a lot of business now, how can you be so sure that an adults only hour wouldn't be a positive, increasing business? Speaking for us personally, we won't go back, unless they offered time without children. I'm further guessing that my business would be worth more, because I am free to spend more on drink and food. I don't need to limit consumption because I'm responsible for children. How many parents can go to a lounge and consume more than one or two? If they do, what kind of parent takes a kid to a bar and drinks like that?

#3. Yes it is Disney and I do expect children everywhere, except bars/lounges. Just as I find it an annoyance to have kids running around, don't you find it disconcerting to have your children in a bar after 11pm? Just because you are on Disney property is it okay? Would you take your children to a local tavern after 11? Of course not. Is it worth the risk to expose your children to adult conversation, adult atmosphere and adult beverage consumption?

#4. Pleasure Island failed for many reasons, but in my opinion it was when they removed the restrictions to allow children/families/shoppers/diners to "just walk through" to get to the West Side.


I look forward to the new Splitsville location at Downtown Disney. According to the press release and website they will stick with the company policy of "No One Under 21 after 8pm." While I would expect them to alter it somewhat, perhaps limiting the top floor only, I look forward to the opportunity to enjoy quite adult time.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:00 AM   #19
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I had a horrible experience at the beach at the Polynesian one night. My DH and I went to watch the fireworks, a nice romantic spot, right? Not a prayer. I love kids, can't wait for my time as a grandma. I love to see them in and around Disney, it really brings on the magic.

However, we were laying on the lounge chairs trying to relax alittle and watch the fireworks and there were some really cute kids acting as pirates, playing and running around in the sand. Cute, right? It was, except one child about 9 years old was screaming on the top of his lungs as he ran. For about 40 straight minutes. Parents were close, not one of them said a word. I'm not talking alittle scream, like a playful thing, I'm talking a monster scream as loud as his voice could carry for a long as he could. I told my husband his parents were probably allowing it, so he'd lose his voice for the rest of the trip! It was horrible, we got up and left and we haven't been back to the Poly beach since. Don't plan to either. There are other places for viewing the fireworks.....like TOWL!!!!
I agree with the OP that there should be adult only time at TOWL but I completely disagree with this poster who thinks the beach should be quiet. If you have a noisy nine year old that needs to burn off steam, where do you go? I think the parents made a good choice taking this kid to the beach so he could run around and play pirates and not bother the people in the room next door to theirs. Was the poster even a guest at the Poly? I'm guessing no since this is on a DVC board. So you go to a hotel that you aren't staying in, into a public area like a beach and then complain because kids are noisy and running around? Really? That's what beaches are for.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:31 AM   #20
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Unfortunately I must disagree with your disagreement!

#1. I don't know your children and have no reason to doubt that they are well behaved. But how are you penalized? If TOWL is open from 5 to 12, you have access 6 out of the 7 hours with your children, including the time of the fireworks. The second part in which you state; "I wouldn't be able to take advantage of adults only becuase my wife and I would not leave our kids in our room alone." seems selfish. I'm guessing you didn't mean it that way, but the way it comes across is... "If I can't take advantage of it no one should." Perhaps a baby sitter for the hour would be a welcome night/hour out.

#2. Neither you nor I can definitively state what business levels would be. But you state that TOWL doesn't get a lot of business now, how can you be so sure that an adults only hour wouldn't be a positive, increasing business? Speaking for us personally, we won't go back, unless they offered time without children. I'm further guessing that my business would be worth more, because I am free to spend more on drink and food. I don't need to limit consumption because I'm responsible for children. How many parents can go to a lounge and consume more than one or two? If they do, what kind of parent takes a kid to a bar and drinks like that?

#3. Yes it is Disney and I do expect children everywhere, except bars/lounges. Just as I find it an annoyance to have kids running around, don't you find it disconcerting to have your children in a bar after 11pm? Just because you are on Disney property is it okay? Would you take your children to a local tavern after 11? Of course not. Is it worth the risk to expose your children to adult conversation, adult atmosphere and adult beverage consumption?

#4. Pleasure Island failed for many reasons, but in my opinion it was when they removed the restrictions to allow children/families/shoppers/diners to "just walk through" to get to the West Side.


I look forward to the new Splitsville location at Downtown Disney. According to the press release and website they will stick with the company policy of "No One Under 21 after 8pm." While I would expect them to alter it somewhat, perhaps limiting the top floor only, I look forward to the opportunity to enjoy quite adult time.

OK I agree 11-12 adults only, as long as this did not interfere with Fireworks is a good idea and I'm all for it!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:46 AM   #21
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I agree, it would be very nice to have time that we can enjoy a guaranteed quiet lounge - but even then you'll get the occasional party of exceptionally loud groups.

While it might be nice to encourage those with rowdy children to send them off to bed, I disagree with making this a formal policy. There's just too many sticky spots. Two in particular:

1 - How does one define 'adults'? Per Disney Ticket sales, they're anyone age 10 and over. (Granted this is a bar and not a theme park we're talking about.) But I have known 5 year olds who are perfectly content to sit quietly with a coloring book for hours on end and 15 year olds who simply are not able to focus, stay still and not instigate problems.

2 - Who's job will it be to 'card' for children and tell folk with kids to leave?

I think it's just best to clue in families with rambunctious kids that their kids are out of control. If it's that bad, the staff should make the call. It really should have nothing to do with age.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:50 AM   #22
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I do believe the old school teacher would have come out of me and told those children to go back to their parents and settle down.

Parents need to parent their children.
My kids are always mortified because I have no problem bringing out the old school teacher in me. I will not tolerate bad behavior from my own children and will not from others as well. I am always polite but firm. We were at McDonalds a while back and there was a table of middle schoolers(what I used to teach) swearing up a storm. I walked over to them and told them that type of behavior in public was not OK and they needed to think about the other people around them. Two of the three politely apologized and they all stopped. That's why I always get asked to chaparone field trips - the teachers know I have a great time with the kids and keep them in line.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:28 PM   #23
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While it would be nice to have adult only times at certain locations, WDW is perceived and marketed as a family vacation spot. Children are random creatures ( yes I have several but had them late if life so I appreciate both perspectives) that are prone to bursts of crazy behavior, even when they are actively 'parented'. If you want an adult vacation on your own terms then WDW may not, by its own nature, be the place. Just is. While parents have different standards, some parents may elect to let the kids have their own fun too. It's not so different than business travelers attending a conference at WDW and being drunk/loud. They are having their fun too, so do we restrict adults from bars? Or the beaches? I like WDW a lot and have just learned to roll with it and appreciate how others choose to have fun even if I disagree with it. The slippery slope is an avalanche of rules that are sure of offend everyone. Enough about people's parenting standards lets go after the people who smoke outside of designated smoking areas ( just kidding )
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #24
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I agree with the OP that there should be adult only time at TOWL but I completely disagree with this poster who thinks the beach should be quiet. If you have a noisy nine year old that needs to burn off steam, where do you go? I think the parents made a good choice taking this kid to the beach so he could run around and play pirates and not bother the people in the room next door to theirs. Was the poster even a guest at the Poly? I'm guessing no since this is on a DVC board. So you go to a hotel that you aren't staying in, into a public area like a beach and then complain because kids are noisy and running around? Really? That's what beaches are for.
Letting off steam and screaming at the top of ones lungs until the throat sounds raw are two completely different things. I raised a son, a very hyper child at that too. The behavior I witnessed was detrimental to this child's throat. As a parent, stepping in would be my first priority for my kids throat and well being. You had to be there. I would have never allowed my child to contine for anywhere as long as this did for his own well being as we'll as respect for other children (whom he was scaring to tears) and the adults around them as well. Who's to say they were guests there??
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