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Old 09-30-2012, 07:44 AM   #31
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You took the words right out of my mouth. The "ME, ME, ME attitude" works both ways. So does personal responsibility. And being considerate of the needs of others.

If I step onto a SRO bus, I have no way of knowing which people are less capable of standing than I am and which one's aren't. If I really do need a seat then I'll wait for the next bus. If I'm just feeling too lazy to stand, then I'll wait for the next bus. Under no circumstances will I get on a bus and expect someone else to give me their seat. Why should a stranger take responsibility for my comfort If I'm not willing to do it for myself?


As far as the whole child in a seat not on a lap goes, no, it doesn't make me crazy to see that. I do think that people are missing out on the perfect chance to get an extra snuggle in with their kiddies. Heck, I had my 16yr old niece on my lap during our last trip. She just plunked down onto me, and I knew it was a golden opportunity to get in an extra long hug.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:25 AM   #32
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I am one who will stand so a child can sit . I figure I am more stable on a moving bus then a child . With that being said I remember being with friends on a bus and begging a grown man to stand so my friend and her 7 mo old baby could sit . He said " Nope I am tired and I am sitting" I then watched EVERYONE within ear shot GLARE at him till he got up and moved to stand at the front of the bus .
See, to me, THAT is rude... on your part. Why does a grown man HAVE to stand? Why did you and your friends get on a SRO bus if they needed a seat? Why should anyone have to explain WHY they are not standing to you?

Calling someone out is even ruder then someone not giving up their seat. Then for everyone else to glare and guilt him into standing? Poor guy!
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:26 AM   #33
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Last Feb was our first onsite trip and first time dealing with the buses. DH and I rarely took a seat even if we were first on line. The buses were so crowded it was easier to walk to the back and stand by the stairwell. My kids took a seat if there was one available. (they were 10 and 12)

Halfway through the trip, my dh asked "why didn't we rent a car???" and I said "we are on site...this is part of the magic!"
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:54 AM   #34
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I always get up for the elderly, a mommy with a small child.
I will, generally, do this as well. I would prefer to see children in a seat, though. I've seen too many flying off their parents laps or slipping off the pole. It just isn't safe if they are not seated. I don't presume somebody is rude because they are seated. You will just get agitated if you go down that road. I have Meniere's - balance issue and you can't see it, but sometimes I have to sit when I otherwise look healthy/normal...HOWEVER, I still would always give my seat to a pregnant lady or elderly person, regardless. I just hold on stronger to the pole!

Many ailments you cannot see in a "seated" person, hypoglycemia, arthritis, fibromyalgia, feet ailments, migraines, autism, etc., so it's easier to not assume and save yourself some grief. Tired children should be seated for safety sake. If you are able to give up your seat and do, kudos...chivalry isn't dead. However, if you want a seat, take one. This topic will never die, so I guess it's all in how one chooses to deal with it for themselves.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:12 AM   #35
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Calling someone out is even ruder then someone not giving up their seat. Then for everyone else to glare and guilt him into standing? Poor guy!
Wanna add something to it. What if he had an invisible disability that made it hard for him to stand?
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:20 AM   #36
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Wanna add something to it. What if he had an invisible disability that made it hard for him to stand?
I usually think the whole "hidden disability" thing gets thrown around too much, but this is on case where it's justified. There are a lot of invisible medical conditions that would make it very hard to stand on a moving bus. There is simply no way of knowing who is capable of standing and who isn't.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:43 AM   #37
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Just a few thoughts.

My DH and I are healthy adults and will always offer to give up our seats for others. We just think its the right thing to do. My DH even did it for years after he broke his knee but before his knee replacement and was in some level of pain when standing.

I don't thnk that waiting for the next bus really is an option for those who truly have issues standing. It seems like sitting on any bench at a bus stop will almost certainly guarantee that you will be last on the bus. So those most likely to need a seat are least likely to be first on the bus. --Suzanne
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:58 AM   #38
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I am one who will stand so a child can sit . I figure I am more stable on a moving bus then a child . With that being said I remember being with friends on a bus and begging a grown man to stand so my friend and her 7 mo old baby could sit . He said " Nope I am tired and I am sitting" I then watched EVERYONE within ear shot GLARE at him till he got up and moved to stand at the front of the bus .


I always get up for the elderly , a mommy with a small child . Now I am not getting up for a 14 yr old to have a seat cause I aint no spring chicken LOL
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See, to me, THAT is rude... on your part. Why does a grown man HAVE to stand? Why did you and your friends get on a SRO bus if they needed a seat? Why should anyone have to explain WHY they are not standing to you?

Calling someone out is even ruder then someone not giving up their seat. Then for everyone else to glare and guilt him into standing? Poor guy!
I have a question, too: why that one man? Was that the only seat on the bus? Was each other seated passenger elderly or a small child or a pregnant woman or a parent holding an infant?

Or was he targeted based solely on the proximity of his seat to where you happened to end up standing
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The sooner folks lay to rest and bury their expectations of other people, especially people they do not know, they happier they will be.

It is utter arrogance to assume that your needs supersede the needs of someone else and expect them to make your problem their problem.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:23 PM   #40
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I have a question, too: why that one man? Was that the only seat on the bus? Was each other seated passenger elderly or a small child or a pregnant woman or a parent holding an infant?

Or was he targeted based solely on the proximity of his seat to where you happened to end up standing
Well said.

I am a woman. If we want equal treatment we need to treat equally and not assume men should cater to us because we are the 'weaker sex'.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:36 PM   #41
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To the OP, Yes, yes and YES!!! Couldn't agree more with you. We brought up our three young boys to ALWAYS get up off the seat and offer it to any elderly person, or pregnant etc. they just naturally did this, and still do! It drives me NUTS when parents allow their young kids to take up 3 seats when they can be on their laps, right there with you OP.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:11 PM   #42
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Well said.

I am a woman. If we want equal treatment we need to treat equally and not assume men should cater to us because we are the 'weaker sex'.
Right there with you! I always say that on these threads.

And I don't teach my son to give up a seat for a "woman" I teach both my kids to offer a seat if someone who didn't have a choice needs it more due to age or physical problem (but I will say this is also tempered by did they the person make the choice? if they did I don't jump up)

I think it is horrible and extremely rude what you did to that man. If she needed a seat so darn bad you should have waited for the next bus. If I was that guy I wouldn't have gotten up. and as someone else said why him, there was only 1 seat on the bus, everyone else was standing? And why did she need a seat so badly? I would thing with a 7 month old she was relatively young and healthy, so physically able to stand.

The buses are just like any ride or show in Disney. You wait in line and get a seat on the ride or show and if you want you can stand in the back after all the seats are taken, your choice but it doesn't give you the right to walk up to the front row of seats and demand they give you their seat. SRO means standing.
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But doesn't the person who "needs" a seat yet gets on a SRO bus also have a "ME, ME, ME attitude"? Since they seem to expect someone to get up for them? Where does the personal responsibility come in?

When it comes to the buses, my thoughts are:

1) Don't judge those who stay in their seats as you know nothing about them.

2) Take personal responsibility if you "need" a seat and wait for the next bus or have your own transportation (car or cab for example).
Amen! I share the same thoughts.
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Old 09-30-2012, 05:06 PM   #44
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I agree it is hard to look at someone and determine on sight alone if they need a seat. On our last trip my husband was 6 months post op from gastric bypass surgery. Although he was mostly healed, he still wasn't comfortable with the kids in his lap with the bouncing and jostling of the bus. We sat next to each other and I has both kids on my lap and the kid closest to my husband would kind of sit on his leg. That was the best we could manage but to anyone looking at us, they would not have known that he needed to be sitting without a kid in his lap. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, it takes far too much energy to sit around judging others.
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If you really need (or just want) a seat on the bus, consider doing what we do: wait for the next bus. I would rather stand in a line out in the open than on a crowded bus. Usually the wait is quite short. There have even been times when the next bus pulled in as the prior one pulled away so the extra time we stood in line was shorter than the time we would have been standing on the bus.
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