Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[Rose&Mike]

Originally Posted by jmasgat

Hey people....a little WISH pixie dust would be greatly appreciated. Found out yesterday I have a probable stress fracture in my foot. Going today for a bone scan, My NYC marathon is down the tubes, and need to get better so I can train to finish Goofy (note the use of the word "finish" instead of "race").

Will go looking for an Aqua Jogger belt today, and will see if I can do any cycling to try and stay fit (and sane).

Not a happy camper.

Maura

I'm sorry Maura.

I assume the aqua jogger belt is for pool running?

I trained for the Princess in the pool and on the bike. I couldn't run from the end of October until Christmas--nothing on my feet at all. (Multiple tendon injuries/strains/p-f in the same foot, along with a nasty fat pad injury on the heel)

Anyhow, I was pleasantly surprised with how well I kept my cardio up. It wasn't fun but it was doable. I didn't have a jogger belt, but I wore a float belt and got in the deep end at the Y and "ran" for 60+ minutes at a time. I went back and forth in the deep end and tried really hard to "sprint" one direction on each lap. It was not always very fun, and often I showed up with multiple pieces of k-t tape, but I stuck it out, and finished the Princess with a respectable time.

I hope you are able to keep up your training for Goofy.

[cewait]

Originally Posted by Terapin

Just wanting some advice/opinions:

My running training program through Running Room has been running 5x week. It is usually:

T=short tempo run (from 3-6k over time)
W=hills (up to 9 hill repeats of 500m incline) then later fartleks
TH=steady run (from 3-8k)
S=steady run (from 3-8k)
Su=LSD (now is 16k, working up to 20k)

I find that about every other week something comes up with work or life and I miss either the Tuesday or Thursday run. I missed it last night due to family time and I was too full to run after our late dinner (lame, I know).

But, our running group runs to our hill and back which adds 5k to Wednesday. So for instance, this week is about 11k on hill day. In the Running Room program the mileage is calculated for the week, but with this extra 5k on hill days our group is actually running about 15-20% more than the total weekly kilometers in the plan.

So, my question is this: when I miss one of the short days, like last night, should I make it up to keep on track, or let it go? I have hills tonight and thinking of doing my 4k this morning, and then the hills tonight. Am I getting enough training in on the weeks I only get out 4x/wk considering the extra kilometers on hill night? This week, even without last night, I will be at about 36km for the week, on week 10 of an 18 week HM program. The program calls for a total mileage of 34k on this week, btw.

I could also do some cross-training on my bike instead this morning. Maybe that is the smart thing to do?

Also, my knees are really sore after hills. I have that patellar-femoral thing dx'd by a MD. I use the KT tape for long runs but it helps not at all on hill nights I don't think. Any hints? I sometimes walk down the hills on the way back down as I think it is the down part that is hurting...

Thanks!

I am of the belief that a missed workout is a missed workout. Do not try to make them up... the only caveat is if you have life happen on the long day, plan to run the day prior or the day after. If that is not possible, skip it also.

With regard to the knee and hills.. It is most likely not the hills, rather the downs creating the issue. Stick with walking back down for a while. The proper way to run down is a shorter stride with a higher turn over. Chest up and eyes well forward - this is not natural to many runners. I would also consider dropping a midweek run if the knee does not improve. PF syndrome is as much an over use injury as a mal-tracking patella.

[cewait]

Originally Posted by jmasgat

Hey people....a little WISH pixie dust would be greatly appreciated. Found out yesterday I have a probable stress fracture in my foot. Going today for a bone scan, My NYC marathon is down the tubes, and need to get better so I can train to finish Goofy (note the use of the word "finish" instead of "race").

Will go looking for an Aqua Jogger belt today, and will see if I can do any cycling to try and stay fit (and sane).

Not a happy camper.

Maura

sorry about the news...

Do take the time required to heal. Cycling may be out depending on the bone injured. I would ask about rowing (in the boot) as an alternative. It is relatively stress free on the foot. ALso, the dreaded hand cycle will give you cardio benefit as well. After a 3-4 week period it will also start to give you a nice set of shoulders and guns

Good luck

[Rose&Mike]

Originally Posted by cewait

sorry about the news...

Do take the time required to heal. Cycling may be out depending on the bone injured. I would ask about rowing (in the boot) as an alternative. It is relatively stress free on the foot. ALso, the dreaded hand cycle will give you cardio benefit as well. After a 3-4 week period it will also start to give you a nice set of shoulders and guns

Good luck

Oh I did that hand cycle thing too. That was awful! I have obviously blocked it from my memory because I disliked it so much!

And to add--could only get on the bike as long as I did not stand up. That was pretty boring too!

[McDuck]

Sorry to hear of the injury, Maura. Hoping for the best for you!!!

[Reep]

Originally Posted by Terapin

Just wanting some advice/opinions:

T=short tempo run (from 3-6k over time)
W=hills (up to 9 hill repeats of 500m incline) then later fartleks
TH=steady run (from 3-8k)
S=steady run (from 3-8k)
Su=LSD (now is 16k, working up to 20k)
. . .
So, my question is this: when I miss one of the short days, like last night, should I make it up to keep on track, or let it go?

If you are getting your miles in, then don't worry about it. If you need to keep your miles up, running one run in the am and one in the pm is a good way to do it. I'm more concerned with you doing tempo on Tu and hills on We. That seems like a bad idea. Usually you want to separate hard workouts with an easy day in between. I know my body wouldn't handle that on a regular basis. But, certainly you can fit extra short run miles in the same day as any of those workouts. For me, my weekly mileage is the priority. Cross-training and other things come after my minimum mileage.

[ZellyB]

So sorry about the injury, Maura. I hope the healing goes quickly and your other activites keep you ready.

[disney_runner]

Terapin - hills are brutal on the downhill side. I had knee surgery last year (torn meniscus) and when I finally got back to running outside, hills were tough! I never realized it before surgery, but now it's clearly obvious. So much pounding!

It's been 15 mos. now since my surgery and I can handle the hills way better. But I figured out how to run them, and it's pretty much just like Coach explained. It totally doesn't feeel natural, but it's the only way to go downhill without pain (or less pain). Not that I have pain all the time, but every so often there's a wee bit here and there. Take it easy on the down side, walk if you need to.

[Terapin]

Originally Posted by cewait

I am of the belief that a missed workout is a missed workout. Do not try to make them up... the only caveat is if you have life happen on the long day, plan to run the day prior or the day after. If that is not possible, skip it also.

With regard to the knee and hills.. It is most likely not the hills, rather the downs creating the issue. Stick with walking back down for a while. The proper way to run down is a shorter stride with a higher turn over. Chest up and eyes well forward - this is not natural to many runners. I would also consider dropping a midweek run if the knee does not improve. PF syndrome is as much an over use injury as a mal-tracking patella.

Thanks for the advice and feedback.

[Terapin]

Originally Posted by Reep

If you are getting your miles in, then don't worry about it. If you need to keep your miles up, running one run in the am and one in the pm is a good way to do it. I'm more concerned with you doing tempo on Tu and hills on We. That seems like a bad idea. Usually you want to separate hard workouts with an easy day in between. I know my body wouldn't handle that on a regular basis. But, certainly you can fit extra short run miles in the same day as any of those workouts. For me, my weekly mileage is the priority. Cross-training and other things come after my minimum mileage.

Thanks for the feedback!

[Terapin]

Originally Posted by disney_runner

Terapin - hills are brutal on the downhill side. I had knee surgery last year (torn meniscus) and when I finally got back to running outside, hills were tough! I never realized it before surgery, but now it's clearly obvious. So much pounding!

It's been 15 mos. now since my surgery and I can handle the hills way better. But I figured out how to run them, and it's pretty much just like Coach explained. It totally doesn't feeel natural, but it's the only way to go downhill without pain (or less pain). Not that I have pain all the time, but every so often there's a wee bit here and there. Take it easy on the down side, walk if you need to.

Thanks Tanya! Uphill actually feels just fine. I don't really mind hills at all. My body feels quite comfortable on the uphills. But it really is the downs - will try the technique. I have been shortening my stride naturally as I am afraid of going too fast downhill, but maybe I am causing more shock as I 'brake'. Hmmm... will try to figure out.

[RunRookie]

Originally Posted by jmasgat

Hey people....a little WISH pixie dust would be greatly appreciated. Found out yesterday I have a probable stress fracture in my foot. Going today for a bone scan, My NYC marathon is down the tubes, and need to get better so I can train to finish Goofy (note the use of the word "finish" instead of "race").

Will go looking for an Aqua Jogger belt today, and will see if I can do any cycling to try and stay fit (and sane).

Not a happy camper.

Maura

Oh No! I am so sorry to hear this! I will be praying for a good report from the bone scan, a solid recovery, and the ability to enjoy your Goofy in 2013. Sending lots of PD!

[MightyDuck001]

Originally Posted by Qltrgrl2

So sorry to hear this Maura. You are so supportive to all of us on the boards. Good luck and stay positive...I am going for a "cross the finish line in one piece"Goofy....there will be plenty of us for support.

Ditto. I hope you get better soon!

[tinkluvr23]

I was wondering where all you guys are staying for the marathon? I am most definitely not a runner and will not be participating, but AOA is all booked up for Saturday the 13th in the Little Mermaid rooms. I was just wondering if it was all all you runners staying there? *scowls* Hehe just kidding. It is available Friday and Sunday just not Saturday.

Good luck guys

[butiflfeet]

Originally Posted by tinkluvr23

I was wondering where all you guys are staying for the marathon? I am most definitely not a runner and will not be participating, but AOA is all booked up for Saturday the 13th in the Little Mermaid rooms. I was just wondering if it was all all you runners staying there? *scowls* Hehe just kidding. It is available Friday and Sunday just not Saturday.

Good luck guys

Chances are the resorts are going to be a bit more full because of the races over the weekend but I'm pretty sure runners are pretty evenly spread out over all of the resorts. For Marathon weekend every resort is a "host" resort. Thanks for the well wishes!