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Old 05-14-2012, 04:57 PM   #31
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Personally, they should just include the automatic tip with your fare. It's irksome that with the premium DCL charges, that they cannot pay their staff better as it is. The purpose of a tip is to be an extra incentive for excellent service. Seeing how we always charge our tips to our onboard account and we've never had cause to lower the minimum, I'm sure my family would appreciate not having to make a trip to GS. However, most of the excellent service my family received on our first DCL trip in January came from people who don't directly receive tips from guests. Our servers and room hosts were "average". We weren't compelled to tip them more.

Eh, by the time I cruise again, it'll be the norm--so I'll just make sure I have the suggested amount in my account by the time I sail. Hopefully I won't have cause to visit GS to lower or eliminate the tips.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:07 PM   #32
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is the automatic tip amount of $12/day the same for kids and infants?
Yes. They require just as much, if not more work for the staff.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:28 PM   #33
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I will be going to guest services to have it removed on our first day of the cruise. I appreciate why they are doing this, but as someone who tips based on service... I have issues with the tip being "automatic". We usually tip very well, and above what is recommended due to the fact that we have 2 young children. (We understand they are a little more work than adults). However, on one of our cruises we had 1 individual who we only saw once for 2 minutes with a robotic speech that he made to all of the tables. I have never been on a disney cruise, and based on previous postings... I have a feeling we will be tipping a ton due to the fact that it sounds like the staff go above and beyond! I feel that the amount I tip is my decision (I understand I can always add more to what they charge on my account) but if I have issues with one individual, I do not want to go to guest services and have that amount reduced. 2 reasons- I do not want to feel like I am cheap (when in reality we are truly good tippers) and I also do not want to have to explain why this person does not get the recommended amount. I do not want to get anyone in trouble, and we will just acknowledge that with a little less in tips. If we get horrible service at a restaurant, we do not tip 15-20%. If the service is great and they go above and beyond, then we tip closer to 20% The same will hold true for Disney. Feel free to flame if you must, but I do not feel this is unreasonable.
I am with you, if we can remove it we will. We sailed on the Dream in Sep 2011, we didnt use the server but one night, the service was so bad we refused to return and just had fast food or room service the rest of our sruise. I am not a huge fan of the restaurants so IDK if I will even use them much for our 14 night trip coming up. I loved our room steward (is that what they are called?) anyways gave him a big tip. I just dont want to tip on something I dont use.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:34 PM   #34
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I am with you, if we can remove it we will. We sailed on the Dream in Sep 2011, we didnt use the server but one night, the service was so bad we refused to return and just had fast food or room service the rest of our sruise. I am not a huge fan of the restaurants so IDK if I will even use them much for our 14 night trip coming up. I loved our room steward (is that what they are called?) anyways gave him a big tip. I just dont want to tip on something I dont use.
If you are eating anywhere on the ship besides dinner you are using the MDR staff. They work in the quick serve locations (as well as other places, not just food service) also.

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Old 05-14-2012, 05:38 PM   #35
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I did not read this whole thread, but please, please note that your room stewards and your dining hosts do NOT receive any salary from Disney at all. What we tip them as guests IS their salary. It's what they live on. Just so you know.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:45 PM   #36
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I personally like that it is added.. As a former waitress in college I know that I worked for my tips and not the $2.90 an hour that I received. If the service is sooo bad that you feel the need to complain and have them reduced then I would do so.. However, waitstaff are human and sometimes things are out of their control. I remember times where the kitchen was out of control and food was just not coming out.. The kitchen staff still got their wages but yet the person waiting on you were penalized.. If a wait person was nasty to you then that is a whole different story.. However, I know that things being slower than we all like are sometimes out of our control.. (This is coming from a person that is pretty impatient)
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:54 PM   #37
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If you are eating anywhere on the ship besides dinner you are using the MDR staff. They work in the quick serve locations (as well as other places, not just food service) also.

Just to play devil's advocate... if a person is eating all their meals from the quick serve locations, why tip in that situation?

I've never heard of tipping fast food workers.
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Old 05-14-2012, 05:59 PM   #38
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Just to play devil's advocate... if a person is eating all their meals from the quick serve locations, why tip in that situation?

I've never heard of tipping fast food workers.
On a cruise your "fast food" workers are the MDR staff. Your tips are for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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On a cruise your "fast food" workers are the MDR staff. Your tips are for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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I did not read this whole thread, but please, please note that your room stewards and your dining hosts do NOT receive any salary from Disney at all. What we tip them as guests IS their salary. It's what they live on. Just so you know.
seriously? how is that even legal?
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seriously? how is that even legal?
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:11 PM   #42
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On a cruise your "fast food" workers are the MDR staff. Your tips are for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Right, but what's an appropriate tip for handing you a burger at one of the fast food counters? They're not performing MDR service, why should a customer be expected to tip as such?
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:18 PM   #43
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That said, I really wish they would just pay the CMs and just make tipping like in a regular hotel situation.
If you think about it, if the CM's were paid the same amount of money their tips cover, the price of the cruise would just go up and end up being the same amount. If you just add it to your cruise cost when you book, it will make things easier. I get why people don't like the system, but the price wouldn't be that much different if they did not have auto tipping.
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Right, but what's an appropriate tip for handing you a burger at one of the fast food counters? They're not performing MDR service, why should a customer be expected to tip as such?
So what you want is a fast food only Cruise, so you can get out of paying tips? Thats not the kind of cruise that I prefer!
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Old 05-14-2012, 06:32 PM   #45
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Just to weigh in, I don't mind the new policy (we have always tipped at least the minimum), but I'm bothered by the necessity to do it in the first place. If the only "salary" the CMs receive is tips (which seems ridiculous), and those tips are now automatic, then that amount should be included up front as part of the cruise fare, and Disney should compensate the servers/CMs with a base salary just like you would with servers in a restaurant. Then if people are really impressed with the service, they can tip voluntarily on top of that. A tip should be an added incentive for excellent service; it should not be the only income of the person providing the service....IMHO.
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