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Old 02-26-2012, 10:15 PM   #16
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One of my kids was in a dance recital and the tickets purchased ahead of time stated "No photo or video will be allowed. Professional video will be available for $25".

So I left my camera home and plunked down the money for a video. The dance studio owner hounded the "video company" for over a year before we got our dvds. The quality was HORRIBLE. It looked like a cheap 20 year old VHS tape.

To do it over again, I would bring my camera and use it without a flash. It is not likely the camera police would have said or done anything in a middle school auditorium.

I cannot see telling a parent that they cannot bring a decent camera to their child's show or event, particularly when just one parent is singled out because they have quality gear.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:54 PM   #17
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There has been a report recently about photographers being told to pack up their "big camera" and stop taking night shots at Animal Kingdom.
Not to hijack the thread, but when was this?

I shot after dark on a tripod last night there with no problems -- but then it should be noted that I was using a D300 and a 17-50 f/2.8 lens.

Interesting that I did see a guy -- he did not appear to be anything more than just another guest based on his attire and the woman who was with him -- carrying a large Nikon DSLR (looked like a D3 or possibly a D700 or D300 with a grip, but I didn't see it closely enough to say) with a large, fast tele, maybe a 300 f/2.8. He had it all mounted on a tripod and was just carrying it around the park, with the lens pointed backward and resting on his shoulder. It was really the first time I've seen a guest with a lens like that in the parks. Really can't fathom what you'd want to shoot with such a setup at WDW -- the animals on the safari, perhaps, but the tripod seems less than practical for that, to put it mildly, and I don't think they allow that sort of gear on the Wild Africa Trek either.

I was really wishing my wife could have seen the guy, because she thinks I'm a maniac to carry my sling bag and (folded) tripod all over the parks!

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Old 02-27-2012, 05:55 AM   #18
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I took my camera along to a very minor league hockey game a couple weeks ago. It wasn't at the big arena in town, but a smaller suburban arena. I didn't check out the policy because I brought it to another event there about a year ago with no problem at all.

My daughter's class was singing the national anthem. I'm not a huge hockey fan, but wanted to hear them sing and looked forward to practicing some action shots.

Low and behold...... they were checking bags and said no cameras with a detachable lens. I was irritated, but suppose I should have asked first. My husband says this is a farm team of a farm team. Not big leagues.

The worst part was having to take my bag out and store it in the car during the game.
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:04 AM   #19
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One of my kids was in a dance recital and the tickets purchased ahead of time stated "No photo or video will be allowed. Professional video will be available for $25".

So I left my camera home and plunked down the money for a video. The dance studio owner hounded the "video company" for over a year before we got our dvds. The quality was HORRIBLE. It looked like a cheap 20 year old VHS tape.
This made me laugh because it sounds exactly like what happened last year at my kids dance recital. We eventually actually got TWO separate and equally horrible DVD's (one wide angle and one zoomed in panning around) not even edited together. They came about 10 months after the recital- just in time to take pre-orders for this year's DVD of course.

As for dealing with the pro at the event thing- when I go to weddings I like to stand just behind the so-called 'professional' and take my own 'formals' at the same time. You just have to be assertive and repeatedly yell out the customary alert that you will be taking pictures: "Say Cheese!" which by the way a lot of pro's don't even seem to know about. Sometimes they get upset with me- but I assume that's just them being really intimidated by my awesome pro-looking gear.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:48 AM   #20
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Oh don't even get me started on dance. The studio my daughter dances at allows photography (non-flash) and video during the concert, but my daughter competes and none of the competitions allow photography or video. And I'd be good with that, I'm running around getting the kid through multiple costume changes so it's one less thing for me to deal with, IF what they sold was good quality. But it's usually pretty bad.

I do get irritated when they say "no detachable lens cameras". I mean really, anyone who knows how to use a camera well can get good shots with a point and shoot, especially with some that are out now. I was at a New Years Eve event in Dallas and they had that rule. I got some awesome shots with my cell phone (yes, night shots) that were better than the "professional" shots that appeared on the news site the next day. I was really limited to what I could get, but it didn't stop me it just made me get more creative about how I shot things. And it reminded me once again that the camera has little to do with a great image, that's all the photographer.
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Another point to consider in this case is that if this is a copyrighted play (Mulan), then no one should be taking pictures without the written consent of the copyright holder. We had this issue come up with one of our small town local plays. Thus, there is no photography whatsoever at the plays.

Speaking of camera confusion at events, I had my iphone on my belt at the last Cirque du Soliel event. I thought the guy at the door was not going to let me in until I explained that I was a Physician and had to keep my phone with me. I promised not to take any photos and finally got in. Wow, those guys are strict!
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Another point to consider in this case is that if this is a copyrighted play (Mulan), then no one should be taking pictures without the written consent of the copyright holder. We had this issue come up with one of our small town local plays. Thus, there is no photography whatsoever at the plays.

Speaking of camera confusion at events, I had my iphone on my belt at the last Cirque du Soliel event. I thought the guy at the door was not going to let me in until I explained that I was a Physician and had to keep my phone with me. I promised not to take any photos and finally got in. Wow, those guys are strict!
This is not accurate, there is no such requirement. I'd hazard a guess that about 75% of photos taken in America feature something that is copyrighted or trademarked in them. Do you seek written permission from each copyright holder prior to each time you take a photo? No, and to require so would be absurd.

That said, an organization can condition attendance/entrance on adhering to certain rules and requirements. One of those rules can be no photography (or no X type of equipment) if they don't want photos of their copyrighted work taken.
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:39 AM   #23
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This is not accurate, there is no such requirement. I'd hazard a guess that about 75% of photos taken in America feature something that is copyrighted or trademarked in them. Do you seek written permission from each copyright holder prior to each time you take a photo? No, and to require so would be absurd.

That said, an organization can condition attendance/entrance on adhering to certain rules and requirements. One of those rules can be no photography (or no X type of equipment) if they don't want photos of their copyrighted work taken.
I stand corrected. In our case, when we ordered the scripts for "Hansel and Gretel," we were told by the company in no uncertain terms that everything in the play down to sets and costumes was copyrighted (even though we made them) and, therefore, no photography of any kind was allowed. As you said, that was their (the company's) rule/ condition to get the play.

Again, shows how confusing these things can get.
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Again, shows how confusing these things can get.
Not surprising -- the people who tell you that are often confused themselves (even if they think they're giving you accurate information), and the ones who do know better sometimes use that as an easy excuse because they know most others are fuzzy on the actual requirements.

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I stand corrected. In our case, when we ordered the scripts for "Hansel and Gretel," we were told by the company in no uncertain terms that everything in the play down to sets and costumes was copyrighted (even though we made them) and, therefore, no photography of any kind was allowed. As you said, that was their (the company's) rule/ condition to get the play.

Again, shows how confusing these things can get.
Did this include filming for actor review & improvement? When I was in HS drama club we would always film ourselves and study it in order to make improvements in our roles.
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Did this include filming for actor review & improvement? When I was in HS drama club we would always film ourselves and study it in order to make improvements in our roles.
The contract did not list any exceptions. I just know that we have not been allowed to take any pictures. As PP said, it would be pretty absurd to not be allowed to take pictures of anything copyrighted. I guess I could understand if one was trying to sell pix of copyrighted things. But still...
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It’s an interesting dilemma. If parent’s show up with professional photography gear and start taking pro quality pictures, the pro probably won’t make enough money to make it worth their time. The parents all know each other, so they’ll just get free pictures from the photographer parent. On the other hand, if no “photographer parent” shows up or if they are all gear and no eye, no one gets decent pictures.

I’m sure it is challenging for people running sports leagues, weddings, pageants, plays, etc. On one hand, you’d like to contract with a professional photographer and videographer so that your people have access to high quality pictures and videos. On the other hand, you don’t want to tell parents that they cannot bring their own cameras and take pictures of their own kids.
I enjoy shooting my son's baseball games and over the years have come to know the players photographically. I've literally shot hundreds of their games.

A few years ago we were at an out of state tournament where they had "professional" photographers with those $5K sports mega lenses mounted on their pro cameras. I admit I had lens envy being there (at the time) with just an entry level dSLR and slow walkaround zoom lens, but I enjoyed chatting with the photographers regardless and a good time was had by all.

Boy, was I ever surprised to see when the "professional" pictures came in they weren't really all that great. In many shots feet, hats, bats, etc, were amputated, expressions were ho hum or non-existent, angles shot were not flattering, many were blurry, etc. Many families from our team proclaimed my pictures were better.

It drove home the point that it really can be the photographer and not the equipment for me.

It wasn't so much that I was a great photographer, necessarily. But it was that I wasn't rushed (as those photographers were), there was no pressure, I was familiar with my subject matter, I had lots of practice with this particular team, and I cared about getting really good pictures. This is, IMO, what made the difference between mediocre "professional" photos and good "amateur" photos.
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