What did we think of TEEN MOM 2?

[hereyago]

Originally Posted by WeLoveLilo05

Did anyone catch when Jenelle said she had to "babysit" jace? LoL, no, when its your child its not called babysitting, its called parenting . I know she no longer has custody, but still it is her child biologically speaking.

I guess b/c the court order Jenelle isn't aloud to take Jace out alone? Is that right? IDK, I don't see what the big deal was about taking the kid to see the fireworks, her mom could have even said why don't we all go together?

I thought that myself too. you don't babysit your own kid, it's bad when a dad says that, but a mom. I guess she isn't allowed to take Jace out, but you are right about the mom could have been why don't we go together?

[hereyago]

Leah and Cory-I am happy that they are trying again.

Kailyn-I feel for this girl. SHe looks so trapped. Jo just want to smack him, this is MY crib, um nope, it's your parents. Here is the thing, he doesn't want other guys to be around the baby, but what if he had other girls coming there? looks like next week they will give the crazy train one more go of it. and not sure if it was editing but she asked Jo for a wipe and then we see him in the kitchen making himself some food?

Chelsea-Dr. Drew, get this girl some self esteem!!!!!!!!! Now she is saying I bet he won't feed the baby then why let him watch her? next week she wants him to move in and NOT tell her DF? I think he is just trying to be on the show and have a free place talk about where is the Xbox thing? big ol flat screen tv no bills shoot, let her DF adopt me.

[tessiemez]

Originally Posted by dmbrez67

It seems like a stupid question, but when jenelle left home the first time why didn't she take her baby? Seems like that would have been the first instinct as a mother. Maybe I missed something. These teenage girls along with the group from the first season seem to alow these loser guys walk all over them.

Not a stupid question--a very good one!

Because then she wouldn't be able to escape her responsibilities and go party with her friends. I read on the news that she was arrested after cops found her in a vacant house where she'd been hanging out with her boyfriend (she was charged with breaking and entering, and pot possession). That is, apparently, what she does with her time when she's not at home "caring for" Jace. That's a lifestyle she should have abandoned 100% when she got pregnant. Taking the baby would be instinct for a mother who cares about her baby above all else. I definitely think Jenelle loves Jace, but Jenelle loves Jenelle more. I know plenty of people with entitlement issues, and I'm a pacifist, but I've never wanted to slap sense into someone like I have wanted to with Jenelle.

And I sympathise with her mother. Jenelle put her in the parenting position from the get-go, blatantly ignoring her mother's instructions to stay home and take care of Jace. Her mother's not a saint, but if I were her mother, I wouldn't play mama for most of the day, only to back off and play Grandma whenever Janelle decides it's a convenient time for her to play Mama again--so I have no problems with her mom continuing to take care of Jace when Janelle's around. I'm glad she got custody.

Janelle's a young person, and there's still hope for her--but I'd really like to see Dr. Drew tear her a new one.

dmbrez67, sorry for hijacking your question. ::

::rant over::

[Miniefan]

I have a question too- it may have already been asked and answered but missed it.

Do these girls recieve any compensation for being on the show?

Kim

[brockash]

Originally Posted by WeLoveLilo05

Did anyone catch when Jenelle said she had to "babysit" jace? LoL, no, when its your child its not called babysitting, its called parenting . I know she no longer has custody, but still it is her child biologically speaking.

I guess b/c the court order Jenelle isn't aloud to take Jace out alone? Is that right? IDK, I don't see what the big deal was about taking the kid to see the fireworks, her mom could have even said why don't we all go together?

Yes, but her mom is a controlling, manipulative witch. Honestly, the more and more I watch them...I really think Jenelle's mom is worse than Jenelle, and that says A LOT. Don't get me wrong, I think Jenelle's pretty horrible herself, and def. isn't even a decent mom, however man her mom is really showing a very mean spirited, button pushing, condescending, monster to me. Personally, I think Jace should be taken out of the home completely, as neither of them seem fit to parent him. Did you catch all the little comments Jenelle's mom made about Jenelle...honestly I felt bad for Jenelle, because really what can she do, and I totally think she was mis-lead, or at the very least not informed at all about how hard it's going to be to regain custody of Jace. Even if she gets her crap in order, she's basically going to have to prove that her mom is an unfit parent, and really what young person with no family support will have that kind of money for court. I wish she would've just put Jace up for adoption. He'd be sooo much better off.

[WeLoveLilo05]

Originally Posted by Miniefan

I have a question too- it may have already been asked and answered but missed it.

Do these girls recieve any compensation for being on the show?

Kim

yes they do, I don't remember the exact specifics, but I think the girls from the original teen mom banked over $100,000, and if they had a boyfriend/hubby on the show I believe they banked too. I think Ambers income from the show was more than $100,000 but yet she couldn't buy the baby sheets. I am sure there's some stipulation (get the money after the show airs maybe?).

[WeLoveLilo05]

Originally Posted by hereyago

Leah and Cory-I am happy that they are trying again.

Kailyn-I feel for this girl. SHe looks so trapped. Jo just want to smack him, this is MY crib, um nope, it's your parents. Here is the thing, he doesn't want other guys to be around the baby, but what if he had other girls coming there? looks like next week they will give the crazy train one more go of it. and not sure if it was editing but she asked Jo for a wipe and then we see him in the kitchen making himself some food?

Chelsea-Dr. Drew, get this girl some self esteem!!!!!!!!! Now she is saying I bet he won't feed the baby then why let him watch her? next week she wants him to move in and NOT tell her DF? I think he is just trying to be on the show and have a free place talk about where is the Xbox thing? big ol flat screen tv no bills shoot, let her DF adopt me.

I agree with Leah and Corey, I really like them, I think she is working on growing up, so I hope things works out with them.

Kailyn and Jo, thats just a hot mess! She annoys me b/c I feel like she whines all the time but at the same time I also agree with what Jo's parents say to her about she doesn't need to date right now and to focus on the baby, college, career, etc. But then on the other hand, they don't seem to be saying anything to Jo, he needs to show a little respect to Kailyn IMHO b/c thats the mother of his child. And I don't really see him with the baby all that much, and when he is he's got an attitude.

When 16 and Pregnant aired and I saw Chelsea's story and in the end she broke up with that loser I was happy that she made that decision. I just can't understand for the life of me WHY O WHY she would take him back!! She really does need some self esteem! Her dad is giving her the WORLD and giving her so much support! Living in her own home rent free with a friend, everything paid, groceries paid, she doesn't have to work, she just has to finish HS and take care of the baby and she is just totally taking advantage of her Dad! I agree with you, he wants his fame on the show, some loot from the show, and to live rent free b/c lets face it, thats the ultimate laugh in the face towards her dad. "I am living rent free in a home YOU are paying for, living off of YOUR income, eating YOUR groceries, playing YOUR XBOX using YOUR electricity, and you don't even know it." This girl needs a reality check!
It makes me so mad! Your daughter doesn't "need" a father, no she has you, your family and your dad which is an awesome positive male figure in her life.

[aaarcher86]

Originally Posted by WeLoveLilo05

I agree with Leah and Corey, I really like them, I think she is working on growing up, so I hope things works out with them.

Kailyn and Jo, thats just a hot mess! She annoys me b/c I feel like she whines all the time but at the same time I also agree with what Jo's parents say to her about she doesn't need to date right now and to focus on the baby, college, career, etc. But then on the other hand, they don't seem to be saying anything to Jo, he needs to show a little respect to Kailyn IMHO b/c thats the mother of his child. And I don't really see him with the baby all that much, and when he is he's got an attitude.

When 16 and Pregnant aired and I saw Chelsea's story and in the end she broke up with that loser I was happy that she made that decision. I just can't understand for the life of me WHY O WHY she would take him back!! She really does need some self esteem! Her dad is giving her the WORLD and giving her so much support! Living in her own home rent free with a friend, everything paid, groceries paid, she doesn't have to work, she just has to finish HS and take care of the baby and she is just totally taking advantage of her Dad! I agree with you, he wants his fame on the show, some loot from the show, and to live rent free b/c lets face it, thats the ultimate laugh in the face towards her dad. "I am living rent free in a home YOU are paying for, living off of YOUR income, eating YOUR groceries, playing YOUR XBOX using YOUR electricity, and you don't even know it." This girl needs a reality check!
It makes me so mad! Your daughter doesn't "need" a father, no she has you, your family and your dad which is an awesome positive male figure in her life.

I have a feeling that when the dad finds out he'll do the whole 'if you hurt her your out' talk and let it slide too. He seems like an enabler to me.

[WeLoveLilo05]

Originally Posted by aaarcher86

I have a feeling that when the dad finds out he'll do the whole 'if you hurt her your out' talk and let it slide too. He seems like an enabler to me.

yeah I am wondering what will happen when he finds out

[Miniefan]

Originally Posted by WeLoveLilo05

yes they do, I don't remember the exact specifics, but I think the girls from the original teen mom banked over $100,000, and if they had a boyfriend/hubby on the show I believe they banked too. I think Ambers income from the show was more than $100,000 but yet she couldn't buy the baby sheets. I am sure there's some stipulation (get the money after the show airs maybe?).

Considering every single one of them shows luvs diapers in the background somewhere, I would be willing to bet they are giving them diapers too. Plus they run that dumb heavy dooty champ luvs commercial during the show too.

Kim

[proud_canadian]

OK, I just watched the latest episode.

Now, I may be wrong, as I don't have experience with custody arrangements, but I have a feeling it is the mom saying she doesn't want Janelle to take Jace anywhere alone. I don't think it says that in the agreement. That wouldn't make any sense. As for the mother, I can sort of see why she might not want the baby to go to fireworks as he is still little and it was a late night, etc. But Janelle wanted to take Jace to the store and she wasn't allowed to do that either???

It was also really weird when Janelle's mom was freaking out that Janelle bought new things for herself. In one breath she was all like, Janelle don't buy stuff, and then in the next breath she was like, "Oh I like that, you should wear dresses more..." Really weird. That mom is really controlling, but I don't think Janelle has a choice on where she can live... she has no money.

It was interesting to see Jo had a brother, I'd never known that until this episode. I feel bad she had to break up with her boyfriend, but she didn't really have a choice. Kailyn didn't seem very appreciative of her mom giving her a car. However, I think there is more to that mom/Kailyn story.

Why didn't Adam ever have a shirt on?? Come on! I find it hard to believe Adam has grown up that much in those few months.... I never would have spoken to him again... father of my children or not.

As for Leah and Corey, that's great they are trying another go. I noticed they said the baby had to wait 2 months to get the MRI, but should they not have been getting her into a specialist or PT or something else in the meantime????

[MrsPete]

Originally Posted by brockash

honestly I felt bad for Jenelle, because really what can she do, and I totally think she was mis-lead, or at the very least not informed at all about how hard it's going to be to regain custody of Jace . . . I wish she would've just put Jace up for adoption. He'd be sooo much better off.

Even if Jenelle did understand that she will likely never get custody back, it wouldn't have mattered. Consider her choices:

1. Be homeless and have her mother take the baby away because she cannot provide for him.
2. Live at home, eat regularly, be with the baby even if mom has custody.

Yeah, those of us who are older can see other options, but she is too young and stupid to figure them out. I mean, she can't even figure out how to get a job. If she really wanted to get out, she could go to a shelter. They'd help her find a job, give her child care, etc. Of course, they also drug test and have curfews, so that option might not be so attractive to her.

[MrsPete]

Originally Posted by WeLoveLilo05

Her dad is giving her the WORLD and giving her so much support! Living in her own home rent free with a friend, everything paid, groceries paid, she doesn't have to work, she just has to finish HS and take care of the baby and she is just totally taking advantage of her Dad! I agree with you, he wants his fame on the show, some loot from the show, and to live rent free b/c lets face it, thats the ultimate laugh in the face towards her dad. "I am living rent free in a home YOU are paying for, living off of YOUR income, eating YOUR groceries, playing YOUR XBOX using YOUR electricity, and you don't even know it." This girl needs a reality check!
It makes me so mad! Your daughter doesn't "need" a father, no she has you, your family and your dad which is an awesome positive male figure in her life.

Anyone else think Adam is back because he found out about a great house with free rent where he might live?

A girl doesn't need a father in the sense that she will die without one, but kids with two parents do have a large number of advantages over those with only one parent -- Chelsea's not wrong for wanting that her for her child -- but at the same time, no parent can be better than a bad parent. And Adam doesn't have many redeeming qualities.

[FlyingDumbo]

Originally Posted by MrsPete

Anyone else think Adam is back because he found out about a great house with free rent where he might live?

A girl doesn't need a father in the sense that she will die without one, but kids with two parents do have a large number of advantages over those with only one parent -- Chelsea's not wrong for wanting that her for her child -- but at the same time, no parent can be better than a bad parent. And Adam doesn't have many redeeming qualities.

I totally agree, Adam sees a free place to live and someone to mooch off of. That is all he sees, a free place to live. I hoper her dad finds out and makes him pay the rent, because we all know he wont. Chelsea needs to get rid of that loser!

Kailyn is stuck Jo is super controling, and so is his family. They really control every aspect of her life. She needs to get out of that house. Her mom, if you saw her episode, pretty much left her home alone all the time. I wish she would find a new place to live. I think both jo & his parents are control freaks.

Leah & Corey are my favs! I am worried about Ali though, it doesnt look good. Anyone know what is going on with her legs?

Jenelle is not responsible enough to have a child. I wouldnt let her take the baby alone either she has poor judgement. Her mother is a control freak and an enabler all in one. Poor Jace is doomed for craziness with those two. What ever happened to Jaces dad? ANy mention of who that is?

[WhateverLolaWants]

Originally Posted by WeLoveLilo05

yes they do, I don't remember the exact specifics, but I think the girls from the original teen mom banked over $100,000, and if they had a boyfriend/hubby on the show I believe they banked too. I think Ambers income from the show was more than $100,000 but yet she couldn't buy the baby sheets. I am sure there's some stipulation (get the money after the show airs maybe?).

According to Amber's court testimony, it's about $140,000 per 6 month contract. There has been speculation that each "story" gets that amount and it gets divvied up a bit if a father is involved. Which leads me to...

Originally Posted by MrsPete

Anyone else think Adam is back because he found out about a great house with free rent where he might live?

He's there for the Teen Mom paycheck for sure! Two episodes ago I figured that one out. He is so insincere in his "manning up."

Originally Posted by FlyingDumbo

What ever happened to Jaces dad? ANy mention of who that is?

The supposed baby daddy from her 16&P is "modeling in China" aka living still at home probably. Rumors swirled months ago that he was not actually the baby daddy and recently a former friend went to a tabloid saying the real father is a boyfriend of another friend. The first guy was actually in rehab the month she supposedly conceived. Jenelle pretty much admitted this was true. I think Jace looks the other guy more than the original.

Admit article http://starcasm.net/archives/82424
New baby daddy article with his picture http://starcasm.net/archives/82270