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Old 10-15-2010, 03:16 PM   #16
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I enjoyed it surprisingly. The women were all, what you see is what you get.

Which housewife was talking about surrogates so she didn't have to experience pregnancy? I thought that was selfish.
Isn't it just as selfish to want a baby so much that you go through IVF? What difference does it make how someone constructs their family? Everyone makes their family the way they want to make it happen.

BTW, I adopted my kids so I wouldn't have to experience pregnancy. I guess I'm selfish, too.

In every case, including being pregnant yourself, it is a roll of the dice that everything will work out. A surrogate could change her mind and not want to give up the baby, IVF may not work and adoptions can fall through. Why would you judge someone who wants to grow their family in the way that they see as the best fit for themselves?
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Old 10-15-2010, 03:35 PM   #17
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Isn't it just as selfish to want a baby so much that you go through IVF? What difference does it make how someone constructs their family? Everyone makes their family the way they want to make it happen.

BTW, I adopted my kids so I wouldn't have to experience pregnancy. I guess I'm selfish, too.

In every case, including being pregnant yourself, it is a roll of the dice that everything will work out. A surrogate could change her mind and not want to give up the baby, IVF may not work and adoptions can fall through. Why would you judge someone who wants to grow their family in the way that they see as the best fit for themselves?
I think the way they portrayed it wasn't the whole truth. They made it seem like she did it for vanity reasons and not due to health, etc. I think that may be the confusion some folks are having with what she stated and even Taylor's remarks afterwards - at no point did they state it was due to health reasons.
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Old 10-15-2010, 03:55 PM   #18
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Isn't it just as selfish to want a baby so much that you go through IVF? What difference does it make how someone constructs their family? Everyone makes their family the way they want to make it happen.

BTW, I adopted my kids so I wouldn't have to experience pregnancy. I guess I'm selfish, too.

In every case, including being pregnant yourself, it is a roll of the dice that everything will work out. A surrogate could change her mind and not want to give up the baby, IVF may not work and adoptions can fall through. Why would you judge someone who wants to grow their family in the way that they see as the best fit for themselves?
I think they made it sound like she didn't want to carry the baby for vanity reasons and yes that is selfish. IVF, I don't think is selfish, you are still carrying the baby and maybe that is the only way you can have one. As for you, and adopting, I don't care for what reason you do it, adopting is never selfish. But having someone else carry the baby to term because you don't want to damage your figure, then yep that is maybe not selfish, but way beyond any definition of vain.

PS And with the editing of these shows, I bet that is wasn't for vanity. She probably had some type of health reason for it.
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Old 10-15-2010, 04:30 PM   #19
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The money these women have put the OC and Jersey Housewives to shame. These chicks have bank and their homes are to die for!
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Old 10-15-2010, 04:40 PM   #20
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I recently started watching the RH shows. I started off with NJ, DC and now I'm getting into Atlanta. But last night, I couldnt get through the first 15 minutes of BH. Those chicks are TOO fake! When Camille Grammer said she had 4 nannies, for 2 kids, I was done. Does she even have a career? I get it, she's a dancer, but seriously, 4 nannies? For 2 kids? I can't do it, I immediately deleted it from my DVR, can't do it!
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:02 PM   #21
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Boring housewives of Beverly Hills

I was really looking forward to the premier episode but I found the ladies very shallow and boring. I find the other housewives from other cities more interesting. TV does not portray them in the most flattering way so it is amazing that these women participate. Most of the women on the Beverly Hills show seem to be very insecure.
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:25 PM   #22
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Camille has some sort of IBS type disease. Not sure why they did not put that in the show. It did surprise me how annoying she came across!
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:46 PM   #23
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PS And with the editing of these shows, I bet that is wasn't for vanity. She probably had some type of health reason for it.[/QUOTE]

I think you are exactly right.

Years ago on a talk show,Kelsey discussed when their kids were born that they used a surrogate due to Camille's health. Clearly this was edited to make it look like she did this for vanity. It may be that she would rather not get into her health issues on the show. Her IBS has been discussed before, so it's not a secret.

I think they may be trying to set up some drama, ie., Camille getting judged as vain due to surrogacy, then the other wife (Taylor?) later finding out it was due to medical issues, so she's being judged too harshly.
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:10 PM   #24
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I will watch this one but I can't get past all the plastic surgery. I kept looking at their faces and being quite afraid.
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So I gave it a try and......snoooooze!! Not very exciting to me. And as another PP said, they have so much junk done to their faces it's distracting. It's all examples of plastic surgery gone horribly wrong. Yuck.

I did think the one gal (Taylor?) was kind of sad, the way she kept talking about having to keep looking like a 20 year old so her husband wouldn't leave.
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And as another PP said, they have so much junk done to their faces it's distracting. It's all examples of plastic surgery gone horribly wrong. Yuck.

I did think the one gal (Taylor?) was kind of sad, the way she kept talking about having to keep looking like a 20 year old so her husband wouldn't leave.
I was thinking the same thing about the plastic surgery. All of them have clearly had botox, though the same can be said about all the housewives on every season. Ever since OC, I always find it distracting how their faces don't really move.

THat said, some of the wives look much better than others. I thought Lisa and Kim both look their age, but very pretty. Kim does look like she has had too much sun. Kyle looks naturally pretty and still young. The others were just scary. I said to my DH, whose face looks like that? I remember when Adrienne's husband was on DR 90210. The first time I saw her I thought she was a very bad ad for her husband's work. I don't know if he did her work or not, but if I was in his office and saw her picture on his desk, I would run the other way.
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I really enjoyed it. One of my new favorites. I think it's better than DC and Atlanta.
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:18 PM   #28
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The money these women have put the OC and Jersey Housewives to shame. These chicks have bank and their homes are to die for!
I finally watched the first episode and I so agree with this. They are in a league of their own!
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:28 PM   #29
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So I gave it a try and......snoooooze!! Not very exciting to me. And as another PP said, they have so much junk done to their faces it's distracting. It's all examples of plastic surgery gone horribly wrong. Yuck.

I did think the one gal (Taylor?) was kind of sad, the way she kept talking about having to keep looking like a 20 year old so her husband wouldn't leave.
I know!!!! That Taylor girl needs to STOP having procedures! She looks deformed!! When she was getting the injections done, her upper lip was so funny looking. It's way bigger than her bottom lip. I will never understand why they think they look better. I think it's hideous! She obviously has very low self esteem. Maybe she should find a guy who loves her for her. It seems like she's preparing herself for divorce.

I didn't enjoy this group. As much as everyone has said they didn't like DC, I did. I don't think I will bother with this one.
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I know!!!! That Taylor girl needs to STOP having procedures! She looks deformed!! When she was getting the injections done, her upper lip was so funny looking. It's way bigger than her bottom lip. I will never understand why they think they look better. I think it's hideous! She obviously has very low self esteem. Maybe she should find a guy who loves her for her. It seems like she's preparing herself for divorce.

I didn't enjoy this group. As much as everyone has said they didn't like DC, I did. I don't think I will bother with this one.
I am with you, I loved DC. They seemed more real, some of the others have way too much drama. At least we know that the big DC drama wasn't made up, we saw it happen before the housewives ever aired.
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