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Old 06-02-2010, 11:51 PM   #16
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I was wondering who we should speak to,to get the okay to swim. Should I call ahead,or ask the manager upon arrival if the request to bring guests could be accomadated? or wait until the 1 or 2 evenings we plan on letting the children swim?
Has anyone ever done this and got it okayed?
My father is from Disney past,and thinks it is not pool hopping, if your family is a guest,and you are also a guest. Okay I get it but, I am personally, from Disney that does not cause an embarassing scene
Is there a very close beach we could let the kids play in the sand at? We want something low key,but entertaining enough for the little ones.I know someone had mentioned other activities available,would we be able to participate being from another deluxe resort?
I have visited the Disney web site several times,it is very slow on my computer,and I don't come out with half the info I get from here.Thanks for all of your hard work!!!

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I was wondering who we should speak to,to get the okay to swim. Should I call ahead,or ask the manager upon arrival if the request to bring guests could be accomadated? or wait until the 1 or 2 evenings we plan on letting the children swim?
Has anyone ever done this and got it okayed?
My father is from Disney past,and thinks it is not pool hopping, if your family is a guest,and you are also a guest. Okay I get it but, I am personally, from Disney that does not cause an embarassing scene
Is there a very close beach we could let the kids play in the sand at? We want something low key,but entertaining enough for the little ones.I know someone had mentioned other activities available,would we be able to participate being from another deluxe resort?
I have visited the Disney web site several times,it is very slow on my computer,and don't come out with half the info I get from here.Thanks for all of your hard work!!!
There is no way to ask ahead of time. The lifeguard has the ultimate authority at the pool. Stormalong Bay is the most desired pool on the property and pool hopping (which is allowed for DVC members) isn't allowed there at all. The hotel manager isn't the one to get pool access from unless he/she is fully aware of the pool situation. If you are going during Spring Break/Easter time, it will probably be a very busy time at the pool anyway.

You could get away with the kids playing on the beach at the BC/YC or at your resort (many do have beach like play areas). Just not swiming there. WDW is just too big with too many hotels to let guests swim wherever they want to swim and not where they pay to swim.
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Deb & Bill is correct, you'll need to ask the lifeguard, at the time you plan to swim. The lifeguard's decision will be based on how crowded the pool is at that time.

I understand where your father's coming from, but Stormalong Bay is sized for the number of registered guests at the YC/BC and BCV. There are over a thousand guests at those three resorts, many of whom chose it to use SAB. Let's say that just 25 of the guests at decide on one particular afternoon to invite a couple of friends or relatives. That's FIFTY additional people in the pool.

And if they opened it to 'guests-of-guests', there'd be a lot more than that, likely. It's just not workable, and not fair to people who are paying big bucks to stay there.
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Old 06-06-2010, 01:11 AM   #19
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Uwangy Camp-can we use

DD and I are staying at Animal Kingdom Lodge. Can she play at Uwangy Camp and use that pool even if are not DVC members?
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My family and extended family will be at Disney World next spring. We are all staying at different deluxe resorts.My sister and our famalies will be staying closer to MK because our children are younger.My parents will be staying at the BC or YC. We had planned on spending evenings together and allowing the children to swim. We thought we would meet at my parents hotel since they are older and will probably want to be closer to their room.We are staying for 11 nights, we already have a couple days planned at a water park,so we are not looking to spend all day,just some quiet time, to end the day, with the ones we love.We are not trying to cheat or break any rules.Our children are 3,3,4,8,and 9.So we need an activity while adults are visitiing.My question is should I ask my parents to switch resorts,since the BC and YC seem to be popular.Our kids are not big swimmers,so any of the slides,and extras would not be a plus while swimming.(I was actually happy to se the CR slide was so small,maybe they will give it a try.)Any ideas? Thanks for any help.
The Yacht Club has "pool bouncers" I call them. You cannot approach the pool area without a resort ID for that pool. They give out wrist bands. It would be difficult if not impossible for your plan to work. However, in my opinion, it would work at the Grand Floridian. While I was staying at SSR, during Spring Break, we spent the afternoon with a friend who was staying at the Grand Floridian. After our lunch at the Grand, the girls wanted to go swimming while us adults had a drink and watched them. The lifeguards were fine with it. Even though it was spring break, the Grand's pool was, well... quiet. There were very few people in it. Its really kind of a plain pool compared to some of the others. No one would really clammer for it. I would suggest that it is probably much easier to get the life guards to allow a few senior citizens staying at another deluxe to use your pool, than the other way around, especially if wrist bands are required.
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DD and I are staying at Animal Kingdom Lodge. Can she play at Uwangy Camp and use that pool even if are not DVC members?
Both pools at AKL/AKV are open to all the guests at that resort.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:50 AM   #22
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I have to say most replies on this topic are less than magical.Maybe it is just me being frustrated and taking things wrong.
Just to be clear we are looking for a Disney approved solution. We are club level suite guest buying plat. packages for a 11-15 day stay. Not value looking to cheat our way up to deluxe.
We do not care about what great things the BC or YC has to offer, other than my parents staying there. No one from our party will be using them,slides etc..
I called the general info line today and was told I had to speak to the resort manager,then placed on hold, answered by 3 different desk staff,and disconnected.Called back but Disney was experiencing high call volume and I had a meeting.
I checked here tonight and see that I need to speak to the lifeguard!!! What!!!! We need to know ahead of time, so we can plan accordingly.
Could the pre planning concierge be of help?
My dad has COPD I think this whole trip is a push for him,but he wants to be there when the 2 little ones first see Disney, just like he was with the older ones.
Would Boardwalk be a better alt.? Close to Epcot,regular pool?
Don't hurt me but.....my dad is a Disney person, I am a Beaches/Club Med, he is trying to convert me. It seems weird to me that I have to make dining res, prior to booking? April trip. 180 days is 10/13 and reps were not sure the 2011 info would be out by then. If not then I will have to do most of my own planning because I will not have booked club level yet. You are all so dedicated, Thanks.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:55 AM   #23
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A guest is a guest at Disney, truly what you are paying for a room hadsnothing to do with it.

You truly can not call ahead. They will have to evaulate the crowd that day, at that time and they can only do that in person.

The best plan is everyone stay at the same hotel. That will be the only way you can guarantee everyone can swim together. Is there a reason you ended up in different resorts?

There is a nice sand beach you could use.

Just try to remember that Disney has millions of guests, it will be very crowded and if you do not plan ahead for dinners and such you will find very little to choose from.

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Old 06-08-2010, 10:18 PM   #24
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I have to say most replies on this topic are less than magical.Maybe it is just me being frustrated and taking things wrong.
Just to be clear we are looking for a Disney approved solution. We are club level suite guest buying plat. packages for a 11-15 day stay. Not value looking to cheat our way up to deluxe.
We do not care about what great things the BC or YC has to offer, other than my parents staying there. No one from our party will be using them,slides etc..
I called the general info line today and was told I had to speak to the resort manager,then placed on hold, answered by 3 different desk staff,and disconnected.Called back but Disney was experiencing high call volume and I had a meeting.
I checked here tonight and see that I need to speak to the lifeguard!!! What!!!! We need to know ahead of time, so we can plan accordingly.
Could the pre planning concierge be of help?
My dad has COPD I think this whole trip is a push for him,but he wants to be there when the 2 little ones first see Disney, just like he was with the older ones.
Would Boardwalk be a better alt.? Close to Epcot,regular pool?
Don't hurt me but.....my dad is a Disney person, I am a Beaches/Club Med, he is trying to convert me. It seems weird to me that I have to make dining res, prior to booking? April trip. 180 days is 10/13 and reps were not sure the 2011 info would be out by then. If not then I will have to do most of my own planning because I will not have booked club level yet. You are all so dedicated, Thanks.
Economics are not magical. You get what you pay for. If you didn't pay for the use of a specific pool, you are not permitted to use it unless you get specific approval from the lifeguard right at the moment you want to be able to use the pool. And even then, the lifeguard could tell you "No". There are hundreds of guests staying at the deluxe resorts. There isn't enough room for each guest to invite others not staying at that resort to join them at the pool. Concierge will not be able to give you permission to swim together at a resort you are not a guest at.

Like Sammie said, the best way to be able for all the kids to swim together would be to book the exact same resort as the others.

As for dining, you are competing with thousands of guests for the same dining location, date and time you want. Even non-resort guests are entitled to make dining reservations. So if you want to dine as a group, you must make your dining reservations as early as possible.
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You're confused. Pool hopping is not an included perk with the Platinum plans, concierge level guests or guests staying at other deluxe hotels. A guest staying at a suite in the GF has the same right to use the pool at BC/YC as a guest staying at POP. NONE.

This was covered in the first post.

You want an approved Disney solution?
  1. Consider a water park.
  2. All stay at the same hotel.
  3. Asking nicely the day you want to join the rest of your family. It's really a function of crowds and how many others ask.

Pools are for guests of that hotel, not guests of guests.

Pools aren't large enough to accomodate guests of guests. Sometimes exceptions can be made. You're frustrated because you think you should be able to get an exception in advance. It doesn't work that way.


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I have to say most replies on this topic are less than magical.Maybe it is just me being frustrated and taking things wrong.
Just to be clear we are looking for a Disney approved solution. We are club level suite guest buying plat. packages for a 11-15 day stay. Not value looking to cheat our way up to deluxe.
We do not care about what great things the BC or YC has to offer, other than my parents staying there. No one from our party will be using them,slides etc..
I called the general info line today and was told I had to speak to the resort manager,then placed on hold, answered by 3 different desk staff,and disconnected.Called back but Disney was experiencing high call volume and I had a meeting.
I checked here tonight and see that I need to speak to the lifeguard!!! What!!!! We need to know ahead of time, so we can plan accordingly.
Could the pre planning concierge be of help?
My dad has COPD I think this whole trip is a push for him,but he wants to be there when the 2 little ones first see Disney, just like he was with the older ones.
Would Boardwalk be a better alt.? Close to Epcot,regular pool?
Don't hurt me but.....my dad is a Disney person, I am a Beaches/Club Med, he is trying to convert me. It seems weird to me that I have to make dining res, prior to booking? April trip. 180 days is 10/13 and reps were not sure the 2011 info would be out by then. If not then I will have to do most of my own planning because I will not have booked club level yet. You are all so dedicated, Thanks.

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The only exception to the no-pool hopping rule is Disney Vacation Club members, staying ON POINTS (not cash), can pool hop at most of the resort pools except the AKV and BCV and BLT pools. Also, holiday weeks and weekends are blacked out. Now... its the staying on points that confuses me. If I'm a DVC member, and I'm not staying on points....just say rented a room... how would they know. Wouldn't my KTWC still say DVC member? I've never had my card say "point user" on it?
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We are at different resorts because it will be difficult for my father to walk all the parks.He and my mother are staying at the CR when they do MK,the rest of the time he will spend at Epcot or boating,so the BC or YC makes sense. We will just have the kids play in the sand,or call a cab to pick up my parents up from my resort and drive them back to their resort.
It will just be difficult for them.
I did post earlier that changing resorts is an option,but I wanted to get the offical word from Disney before changing resorts.
Info I was looking for, was other specific areas,or activities near by,a grassy open area to allow the kids to run, picnic tables they could color at etc...Maybe I was not clear. People seem to be fixated on telling me Disney's rules.
Not how to get to speak with someone who can accomadate or deny my request. Or provide other options of alternate meeting places,that may not be advertised,but previous resort guest would be aware of.
**Also when you pay for concierge planning,I do expect it be done 180 days in advance so we can get all the seating we want.I cannot have it done by October if we have not booked yet,and Disney will not say when we will be able to book,the rep said it maybe as late as December,and they only know a day or two prior.
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I also would like to add. Many of you know disney's rules and policies,and have visited many times.Which is wondeful to be able to ask you all questions.
When you book on line or through your travel agent,these things are not printed out for you.
Had I not stumbled on this thread I would have never known Disney's policies on the pools,and would not have been aware it would be an issue.
Please take into consideration that at other large vacation resorts signs read: Resort guest only.The resorts are refferencing people on property to golf or use the spa,not resort guest,who may use all the various resorts' ammenities interchangably.
So many may have the pool hopping mentality because they vacation else where,and assume like other large resorts this is acceptable. I know the last Disney trip signs were posted poolside for GF resort guest only,although clear, I assumed it was reffering to off site visitors,wanting to use resort pools.Now I know.
Thanks for all of your post,and remember not all here are as Disney savy.
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The only exception to the no-pool hopping rule is Disney Vacation Club members, staying ON POINTS (not cash), can pool hop at most of the resort pools except the AKV and BCV and BLT pools. Also, holiday weeks and weekends are blacked out. Now... its the staying on points that confuses me. If I'm a DVC member, and I'm not staying on points....just say rented a room... how would they know. Wouldn't my KTWC still say DVC member? I've never had my card say "point user" on it?
Unless you make a reservation through Member Services, your KTTW will not say DVC Member on it. If you make a reservation through DRC or a Travel Agent, it will not say DVC Member on it.

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We are at different resorts because it will be difficult for my father to walk all the parks.He and my mother are staying at the CR when they do MK,the rest of the time he will spend at Epcot or boating,so the BC or YC makes sense. We will just have the kids play in the sand,or call a cab to pick up my parents up from my resort and drive them back to their resort.
It will just be difficult for them.
I did post earlier that changing resorts is an option,but I wanted to get the offical word from Disney before changing resorts.
Info I was looking for, was other specific areas,or activities near by,a grassy open area to allow the kids to run, picnic tables they could color at etc...Maybe I was not clear. People seem to be fixated on telling me Disney's rules.
Not how to get to speak with someone who can accomadate or deny my request. Or provide other options of alternate meeting places,that may not be advertised,but previous resort guest would be aware of.
**Also when you pay for concierge planning,I do expect it be done 180 days in advance so we can get all the seating we want.I cannot have it done by October if we have not booked yet,and Disney will not say when we will be able to book,the rep said it maybe as late as December,and they only know a day or two prior.
If you don't make dining reservations at 180 days out, you will surely be blocked from getting some of the favorite ones, even through Concierge. If you don't have a reservation by that time, you won't be able to book 180+10 days. You'll have to wait until 180 days for each day you book. But if you haven't finalized your days by that time, you could be out of luck for some favorites or prime times. Even if you have concierge planning make your reservations, they can't always get the ones you need either. Everyone is equal at 180 days out - like Lewis said, whether a guest at Pop Century or GF Concierge.

At the BC and YC, there is a sandy beach area along the canal that the kids could play in. There are some chairs there, but it often gets booked by groups as well, so it might not be available. At the CR there is limited beach area, but there aren't any chairs or tables on the beach that I have seen.

It does take getting used to get learn the WDW ways of vacationing, especially if you are used to another way of doing it. But with as many resort hotels as they have on the property and as many guests staying in all those resorts, the term resort guest applies directly to the guests paying to stay at that resort. If you golf at any of the Disney golf courses, but are not staying at any of the WDW resorts, you have no rights when it comes to using the amenities of the resorts.
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Each Disney Resort is its own business unit. The entire Disney World Property is not one resort. That said.... I have a suggestion. I don't remember if you ever said when you're coming... but..... you might want to RENT points and stay at a DVC resort property. You are still considered staying "on points" as long as you are using points, and it doesn't matter if they're your points or another members points. A new option, but I am not sure if this new option applies to non-members, but it is now possible to rent developer points. Those rent at $13.00 per point. If you rent from another human member, not the developer entity, you can negotiate the rate. i.e. members can rent their points out of however many points they want to. If you rent from a member, you pay them and they make the reservation through member services FOR YOU. You would be able to all stay in the same villa (if you choose a 2 or 3 bedroom villa or a 3 bedroom treehouse villa). A 2 bedroom at SSR sleeps 8, the Tree house 9, AKV villas 2 bedroom sleeps 9, a 3 bedroom can fit up to 12. They all allow you to add a small child in a crib and not count them. If you stay DVC on points, you can then pool hop, but additionally, you can do BLT (at the contemporary) or Wilderness Lodge Villas and be on the MK monorail line. You can stay in BWV and BCV and be near EPCOT. It might be the best option for you. Check out the DISboards, trade/rent board.
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