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Old 05-13-2010, 02:32 AM   #16
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Echoing those who've said "better safe than sorry".

I'd rather read that "Everyone was evacuated from Tomorrowland; the suspicious package turned out to be a cooler with a leaky bottle of Gatorade inside. People in the Park were annoyed." than "Bomb goes off in Tomorrowland; it's not known yet how great the damage is, or how many people were hurt. People in the Park are distraught."

Good for both the CMs and law enforcement for erring on the side of caution.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:39 AM   #17
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So glad this turned out to be nothing. It also makes me want to comment on the whole bag check process. Personally, I don't feel like they are really checking anything. I've never seen them tell someone they couldn't bring an item into the park and I've never seen them really check thoroughly. The bottom line is that I feel like if someone wanted to bring something harmful into DLR, they could easily figure out how to get it through the bag check area. It seems like the bag check is perfunctory and maybe they're secretly checking each of us in some other way that we're unaware of.......OK, well maybe I hope they are.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:43 AM   #18
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I agree, better safe, but I thought that's why there was a bag search at the entrance. Must have been one suspicious looking cooler
Bag check, it's been said many times, is just to slow us down so the real security can check for suspicious behavior.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:18 AM   #19
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My local news just reported that "the bag was near Capt. EO in an area not accessible to the public".
Oh, they wated to blow up Captain EO...I can forgive that!
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:41 AM   #20
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As we all know there is no security at DLR. You see people walking around with knives on their belts and god only knows what else. Most areas of DLR are accessable by the public whether posted or not.
When I have been there the last few years I have never seen a soft sided cooler allowed into DLR, so I wonder when that policy changed. You may just see a ban on many items being allowed into the parks after this, just have to wait and see.

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Old 05-13-2010, 11:09 AM   #21
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I had a feeling the bag must have been found in an area not accessible to the public. Otherwise what would be the concern?

Yesterday my husband made a comment about how useless the "security" checkpoint is. We had 3 jackets stuffed under our stroller and they didn't bother to look under them. My husband said "they didn't even bother to look under our jackets, we could have had a stash of handguns in there." He was trying to make the point that even though we don't carry guns, it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't, and security would never know because they don't actually LOOK!
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:23 AM   #22
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As we all know there is no security at DLR. You see people walking around with knives on their belts and god only knows what else.

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You're kidding right? I haven't been for awhile but there was a time when Disneyland was very strict about their dress code.
My mom went once in the 60s and a friend had a shirt on with a logo from a surf shop and they made him change. He ended up having to wear his girl friends blouse! That managed to pass the Disneyland inspection.
I actually thought about the dress code thing because we've had an increasing gang problem up here and places like the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk and even some restaurants don't let patrons wear certain sports jerseys because gangs adopt then as a "uniform". Sad, I know.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:25 AM   #23
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They stopped me at bag check when I tried to bring in an unopened egg McMuffin so I know they are watching. They actually had to have an employee come and escort me to the picnic area so that I could eat it before I went in. On second thought maybe they thought me my DM and 2 DS's were a security threat and they wanted to check us more.

On a serious note though I am relieved to hear that this went on - as it brings me comfort in knowing that they are paying attention and take things seriously.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:34 AM   #24
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You're kidding right? I haven't been for awhile but there was a time when Disneyland was very strict about their dress code.
My mom went once in the 60s and a friend had a shirt on with a logo from a surf shop and they made him change. He ended up having to wear his girl friends blouse! That managed to pass the Disneyland inspection.
I actually thought about the dress code thing because we've had an increasing gang problem up here and places like the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk and even some restaurants don't let patrons wear certain sports jerseys because gangs adopt then as a "uniform". Sad, I know.
No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

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Old 05-13-2010, 12:04 PM   #25
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This has reminded me

Reading about this has jarred my memory of something that happened while hubby and I were staying at DLR a few years back. It was a very interesting look at Disney Security in action and left us both impressed and with a huge amount of respect for how they do their jobs.

One morning we were walking through DD on the way to the parks (from the Disneyland Hotel). DD was EMPTY because it was early morning, mid-week. We'd just picked up coffee, and were still clearing out the cobwebs.

There was only one other person, a man, walking ahead of us, and we were commenting on how empty it was at DD. As we kept walking, we noticed some unusual activity in the "wings" (i.e., in the corners behind some of the stores and near the DD entrance to GC hotel). We quickly realized there was literally an entire "SWAT" team of Disney security, watching the man in front of us.

Most of these security guys were wearing all-dark outfits, and were watching the man from the shadows/sidelines.

We realized that the man in front of us was dressed (somewhat) like a homeless man, or at least strangely. We didn't even notice at first that he seemed a bit out of place in squeaky clean DD, because it's common to see eccentric types walking thru downtown in San Diego, where we're from.

We wondered why a team of security was following and tracking this homeless man (with walkie-talkies and everything!). We were joking to each other about Disney bringing out the full SWAT team to rid the property of its 'undesirables' before the guests woke up and saw something out of place.

I think, because we were still foggy-brained, it didn't even occurr to us that the man might be dangerous. As we got closer to him, we saw that he had a long, flowing beard, and what looked like dreadlocks piled up under (and sticking out of) a large hat. He was wearing a green Army jacket and dark, saggy clothes.

For an older, perhaps homeless man, he was certainly fit or at least excited, because he was walking at a very fast clip.

I STILL don't know why we were not worried. Instead we picked up the pace, because we wanted to see what was going to happen!

At this point, we were near the World of Disney store, walking towards the security checkpoint.

Suddenly, from the left side (near the tram drop-off) we saw a friendly, grandpa-type security guard in full Disney blues. He ambled up to the mysterious man with a big grin on his face. The older security guard was acting more like a WalMart greeter than a member of the tense security team waiting in the wings. At this point, we were in front of the bakery right near the security checkpoint.

He strolled towards the man and said "Good morning," to him and the man jumped a bit. He asked the man a question or two, and complimented him on his hat, and (I swear) I heard him say "Nice weather we're having!" and then he strolled away.

At this point, the man was obviously spooked and he turned right towards us and scrambled past. We got a good close-up look at his face. He was clearly a young, scrawny clean-cut kid wearing some kind of weird "homeless guy" or "potential terrorist" disguise of his own making.

The long flowing beard was fake. The hair, also fake. He barely fit into the baggy clothes. You could see from his eyes that he was terrified, and that he had lost his nerve for whatever he was about to try. He was getting out of there as quick as he could speed-walk.

What the hell? We decided he was probably a college kid doing some kind of social experiment on how Disney would handle "a situation" on its property. Either it was an experiment for a class, or else he was pulling some kind of a prank on his own.

But as soon as the kind old man security guard approached him, it was enough to spook him into turning and leaving. And the security guard was able to tell - in mere seconds - that the boy was not a threat, but a prankster instead. The kid never saw the entire security team following him through DD - he only saw the friendly security guard who said 'hello' to him.

But we were provided with a front row seat to the entire experience. It was wild. We didn't stop talking about it for the rest of the day! That friendly grandpa-type security guard was obviously a pro, and probably a profiler.

The whole thing was pretty impressive.
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No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

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Well that doesn't make me feel better. I would think they would have a wand thing that would detect a gun. They do the wand thing at concerts all the time. And at baseball games, so you think DL would.
I'm going to stop thinking about this now...la la la...zippity do da...
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Reading about this has jarred my memory of something that happened while hubby and I were staying at DLR a few years back. It was a very interesting look at Disney Security in action and left us both impressed and with a huge amount of respect for how they do their jobs.


The whole thing was pretty impressive.
What an amazing story, Im so glad you guys were ok and that nothing happened.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:47 PM   #28
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The bag check is only there for peoples peace of mind I suppose. If someone wanted to carry in a bomb, gun, knife they could do so with ease. My bags have never been searched. Only glanced at and rarely anything moved. I could have had anything I wanted hidden inside. Even easier in my pocket, pants etc. I really think its to make Disney guests feel more comfortable that there is security present than actually trying to find contraband. Security inside the park is where I think problems are found.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:51 PM   #29
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Many years ago my wife and I were riding People Mover (ya, that long ago!). All of a sudden it came to a stop and in seconds 4 or 5 Men In Black looking guys ran down the track to a car a few down from us. They grabbed a few guys and escorted them off. CM's told us they spotted them with knives on the rides video cameras.

What impressed us was the speed at which these black suited security guys appeared from nowhere and were gone just as fast. You never see the security guards as that would spoil the magic but they most certainly are there!
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:51 PM   #30
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No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

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Yes!

MY DH carries every single day and it doesn't matter where he is- he has it at all times. It's exactly like having his wallet or car keys, he never leaves home without it and it's just second nature.

On our last trip he was stopped because they could see a metal portion of his knife sticking out of his jeans pocket and when asked he said yes- it was a knife. They made him take the shuttle back to the car, put the knife in the car and then come back in. All of which he was fine doing, we didn't think they would see it or that it would be an issue. However, if I hadn't of reminded him before we left the hotel, he would have accidently packed his gun into DLR and security never would have noticed. It's my thinking that they just have no idea what they are looking for. Most folks at security look like moms (at least every time I've been) and not really "security guards". Seriously, do they know what a gun looks like?? Are they trained to find them on ordinary looking folks??

On the other topic- we always bring in our soft sided cooler and have never had any issues. The "moms" at the security checkpoint just ask us to open it up and verify that there's actually food in there. One even told me I was smart to put my chocolate muffin in the cooler by the ice so it would turn to chocolate goo.

However, I was under the impression that coolers on wheels are not allowed in, mainly because they become a trip hazards for other guests walking the parks. I've never tried it, so couldn't say for sure. But our soft sided cooler gets in no problem and has a nice comfy spot on my stroller handles.

Anyone know if this will change due to the recent events? I'm leaving in 2 weeks and of course, will want to bring in my cooler. I wonder if it will still be allowed??
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