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Old 12-06-2004, 10:42 AM   #1
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New "Magic Your Way" tickets discourage no expiration folks

Well, I guess it could be worse. Some folks will save quite a bit of money with the new tickets, but it is clear Disney is trying to keep people in the parks spending more money over more days and making them buy new tickets for each trip. People going for just 1 or 2 days and those of use who like the "never exprire" part of the ticket will be spending a lot more money.

Here is an example of how it appears to work. Cleverly, they change enough of the options between tickets and by adding plus features so that you can't compare apples to apples:

Advance discount prices including tax:

5 day PHP with 2+ options - $275.86
5 day MYW w/3+ and Hopper option - $283.29

So if you have tickets like we do and want to "upgrade", it will cost $7.43 to get one more plus feature. Not a bad deal until you try and add the no expiration option that is already included with the old PHP:

5 day MYW w/3+, hopper, and no expire - $320.54 (another $37.28!) So now it's an extra $38 to use any extra days. If you only have 1 day left, you are almost better off just losing it and buying tickets again the next time.

Here is it for a 6 day

6 day PHP with 3+ options - $306.74
6 day MYW w/4+ and hopper - $284.36

So if you don't care about your tickets never expiring, then you save $22.38 per ticket and get an extra plus admission! Ok, not bad. But if you are like us and the pluses don't all get used, or you sleep in and then do something else on a day you thought you would use a ticket and want to carry it over, it will cost you an extra $47.93 per ticket! So it's a difference of $25.55 more just to be able to keep my unused days. And for those just comparing it to the regular MYW ticket and wanting no expiration, it the entire $49 dollars. It's just not worth it unless you plan on losing more than 1 day.

So it looks like people staying a week and who can stay in one park all day and who will use all the features on their tickets will really save. Those who need the flexibility of never expiring tickets and park hoppers will pay a premium.

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Old 12-06-2004, 10:46 AM   #2
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I was thinking the exact same thing!! We've stretched our 7 day PHP for the last three trips....we enjoy going to the parks, but with no real itinerary or what days we'll be going....it's vacation....we go when we want to - sleep in when we want to....

I'm gonna miss the PHP!
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Old 12-06-2004, 11:00 AM   #3
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We are on the other end of this. My ds and I have Ap's, but in January my aunt and her family will be joining us. We purchased 2-7 day php and 2 -5 day with 2 options from hotwire at what was a good deal. Now with the new offer they could have saved money because they will never go back so don't care about no expiration and will use no plusses!!!

I may try to sell them on ebay at face value and then purchase the new tkts after Jan.2...I assume we can still do will call as we are arriving on the 12th.
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:11 PM   #4
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We are on the other end of this. My ds and I have Ap's, but in January my aunt and her family will be joining us. We purchased 2-7 day php and 2 -5 day with 2 options from hotwire at what was a good deal. Now with the new offer they could have saved money because they will never go back so don't care about no expiration and will use no plusses!!!
We have a similar situation. My immediate family had APs this year (they expire in 2 days). I was planning on buying new ones when we return in June for our 2 trips next year (June and December-a total of 10 days in the parks), but taking into account that we have yet to hop or do a water park, I'm going to just buy the 10 day MYW tickets with the no expiration option. This will save us $210. When we go with my extended family in December (13 of us total) they were going to buy 5 day PHs, but now they'll just get the base 5 day MYW (I doubt there will be a return trip for them) and they'll save money. They are thrilled with this new plan.
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:30 PM   #5
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What about the AP discounts, specifically on hotel rooms. Didn't you utilize this option with your AP's ever?
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This is a copy of a post I made to another thread, but it shows that the new tickets WITH the non-expiring option can actually save a tremendous amount.

Current prices:

5 day park hopper: $265
If I buy 3 this year and 3 more next year (assuming no price increase), I'll spend $1590.

New prices:

10 day non-expiring park hopper: $344
If I buy 3 this year and use 5 days this trip and 5 days next trip, I'll spend $1032.

Savings with the new system: $558.
And the actual savings is probably even more since the cost of the 5 day would likely go up during the year between visits.

Sounds great to me.
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:48 PM   #7
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What about the AP discounts, specifically on hotel rooms. Didn't you utilize this option with your AP's ever?
That is something you do have to take into consideration. We have only stayed onsite once because we travel with our Pug, so it makes my decision much easier. We will always be offsite now so AP rates don't factor in for me. I only need to look at the cost of the tickets for our total of 10 days. The break even point for the APs for us is no longer the 8 days it used to be. I will miss the free parking though, but it still comes out cheaper for us with the 10 day base pass with the no expiration option :D . If anyone thinks of something I might be missing re: AP vs 10 day non-expiring, please do not hesitate to throw it out there for me. I have a lot of time to change my mind!
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Old 12-07-2004, 08:48 AM   #8
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Is the 10 day option a definite?

The charts I have seen only mention figures for tickets up to 7 days in length for the new tickets. Are there charts showing pricing for the 10 day option out there?
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Old 12-07-2004, 10:11 AM   #9
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The charts I have seen only mention figures for tickets up to 7 days in length for the new tickets. Are there charts showing pricing for the 10 day option out there?
Yes, Check mousesavers.com for 10 day pricing. THe advanced 10 day is not out yet but the rest of the pricing is complete.
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Now i am completely lost about tickets now. I am go study up the new tickets because I don't understand at all.
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Yes, Check mousesavers.com for 10 day pricing. THe advanced 10 day is not out yet but the rest of the pricing is complete.
I just added the advance purchase prices for 10-day tickets.

If you like to "buy and hold" tickets to use over the course of two or more trips, and don't mind shelling out the money in advance, the new 10-day tickets with No Expiration option are definitely the way to go. The per-day price is incredible... beats the current 7+4 Park Hopper PLUS tickets by a mile.

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Old 12-08-2004, 07:09 AM   #12
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I just added the advance purchase prices for 10-day tickets.

If you like to "buy and hold" tickets to use over the course of two or more trips, and don't mind shelling out the money in advance, the new 10-day tickets with No Expiration option are definitely the way to go. The per-day price is incredible... beats the current 7+4 Park Hopper PLUS tickets by a mile.

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If you purchase a package for 8 nights, can you buy the 10 day pass?
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Old 12-08-2004, 04:56 AM   #13
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Question What About Old Tickets??

I have three old tickets with three plusses left on each. Will I still be able to use them?
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:14 PM   #14
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...So if you have tickets like we do and want to "upgrade", it will cost $7.43 to get one more plus feature. Not a bad deal until you try and add the no expiration option that is already included with the old PHP:

5 day MYW w/3+, hopper, and no expire - $320.54 (another $37.28!) So now it's an extra $38 to use any extra days. If you only have 1 day left, you are almost better off just losing it and buying tickets again the next time.
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Maybe I am misreading this. Why would you need/want to "upgrade" an old ticket? The old tickets are still valid for whatever use they were sold for.
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I read somewhere that the new tickets will require biometrics so they couldn't be shared the way we have used the leftover PHP tickets for guests. Once the 10-day ticket was used for a particular person, only that person could use it again.
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