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Old 08-21-2013, 05:48 PM   #1
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Stealing from room safe

I read a new DIS article today that said a housekeeper was caught stealing money from a room safe. I want to know why/how a housekeeper would be able to have keys to the safe?!?!?
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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I read a new DIS article today that said a housekeeper was caught stealing money from a room safe. I want to know why/how a housekeeper would be able to have keys to the safe?!?!?
Uh... link?
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:19 PM   #3
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I read a new DIS article today that said a housekeeper was caught stealing money from a room safe. I want to know why/how a housekeeper would be able to have keys to the safe?!?!?
Not necessarily the keys... Some hotel safes have a master passcode (in case the guest forgets)

Are Hotel safes really that safe?
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:21 PM   #4
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OP, please post a link to this thread. The last item I saw about a Disney housekeeper arrested for theft said that she had stolen cash and a credit card that were in the room but not in the safe. This happened at AoA back in May.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:25 PM   #5
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http://www.wdwinfo.com/news/General_..._for_theft.htm
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Whoa!!1 That's new. I'd like to know how she did it, too!
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Subbing here. We are staying at BC in October & i always use the safe to store meds, iPod etc. that spooks me!!
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The article says the items were in the safe. It does not say the safe was locked. Nor does it say how she gained access to the safe if it was locked. It also says she worked at the All Stars. While some resorts now have safes with electronic locks, the values still have safes with keys. Those safes could probably be pried open or picked.

If there is a master key or a master code, I find it difficult to believe it is given to the housekeepers. If it is, that's really bad practice.
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The article says the items were in the safe. It does not say the safe was locked. Nor does it say how she gained access to the safe if it was locked. It also says she worked at the All Stars. While some resorts now have safes with electronic locks, the values still have safes with keys. Those safes could probably be pried open or picked.

If there is a master key or a master code, I find it difficult to believe it is given to the housekeepers. If it is, that's really bad practice.
The safe was locked.

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On Tuesday, investigators planted a wallet with $100 inside and put another $400 inside a locked safe and set up surveillance in the room to see if Francois would take the bait, her arrest report said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,6027089.story

Even if the safe wasn't locked and she took something that didn't belong to her, she's a thief.
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Okay so I have to ask what is a Vanilla debit Visa card?
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:24 AM   #11
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Okay so I have to ask what is a Vanilla debit Visa card?
It is a card with the Visa brand on it that you can put money on and use it like a debit or credit card.
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The article says the items were in the safe. It does not say the safe was locked. Nor does it say how she gained access to the safe if it was locked. It also says she worked at the All Stars. While some resorts now have safes with electronic locks, the values still have safes with keys. Those safes could probably be pried open or picked.

If there is a master key or a master code, I find it difficult to believe it is given to the housekeepers. If it is, that's really bad practice.
IIRC with the room safes which are operated by key, you cannot remove the key without turning it to the locked position so I am guessing that if it was locked the key may have been left in it, or the key turned to the locked position and then removed meaning the safe door could not close.
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IIRC with the room safes which are operated by key, you cannot remove the key without turning it to the locked position so I am guessing that if it was locked the key may have been left in it, or the key turned to the locked position and then removed meaning the safe door could not close.
The article I read said that the safe was locked. I can only assume that they were also locked in the rooms that she stole things in. I can't see someone safeguarding something in a safe and leaving it open.

On the note of her being suspended and not fired and people not wanting to go back. I can see both ways. I have no problem going back as I stay at a deluxe and the safe is harder to get into and I don't bring cash. I do bring electronics but if they are going to steal it is more likely cash they want and not something they have to fence. Those that stay at the Values may have had their beliefs shaken a bit. Everyone likes to feel they are safe but to know you stayed or are staying at a hotel that was hit several times and knowing they are not firing the person and then knowing that the exact safes are still in the rooms might lend to some to get a little nervous.

The mousekeepers must be union because seriously if any one else had been caught as she was they would have been fired on the spot. I have seen it numerous times. There is no wait and see its See Ya Baby. I made a mistake one time that cost the store I was working at money and I was fired immediately. There was no wait and see the outcome of an investigation. I made a mistake that could have been proven, she was caught red-handed.
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Subbing here. We are staying at BC in October & i always use the safe to store meds, iPod etc. that spooks me!!
Spooked me too, I'll be storing $400 cash, as I don't have a credit card!
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:22 AM   #15
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Spooked me too, I'll be storing $400 cash, as I don't have a credit card!
I would keep it on you in one of those money pouches that you can tie around your waist. I know a lot of international travelers use those.
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