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Old 06-18-2013, 05:48 AM   #1
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Staying deluxe without club level. Help me do it, or not??

Well, I am clearly having issues here. Contemplating what I will book for next year's trip once rates come out. We will book 10 nights in August 2014.

We go annually, or more, and have stayed at all levels. DH and I always stayed at values before kids and loved them! Then the kids came....we stayed at POP (Loved it!), then CBR (really disliked it) and then finally bit the bullet and booked a deluxe (WL). I think our mistake was going right to club level on our first deluxe stay. WL CL was absolutely wonderful.... Everything was great, the resort, CL CM's, the food selections in the lounge....just a perfect 10 night stay.

Then, this year we did YC CL. It was nice, but it was not WL CL and we felt like we would not spend the $$ on CL at YC again but would definitely stay at YC again someday.

So, for next year.....I was torn between my first choice Poly CL and GF Sugarloaf (RPC is out of the question, just too expensive). I do have concerns though that if DVC is in fact started at Poly, it will be a hot mess (literally) with construction and I don't want to deal with that on vacation....thus the thought of GF CL...but I have heard very mixed reviews on Sugarloaf and don't want to end up with another YC feeling.

What I would like to do is just book a deluxe and not do CL, but I'm afraid I (and my family) will miss it!!!

Have any of you gone from CL to a regular deluxe and been equally or even more happy??? Or did you miss CL?

And feel free to chime in on your favorite CL's and why, or even why you feel that CL is a waste of money....

In other words, all opinions welcome. HELP!
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:56 AM   #2
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We'll be doing it this year. We are doing WL, but not CL. We are doing a cruise beforehand and wanted to save some money on the resort afterwards. Plus, we'll probably be so stuffed that we won't really miss the food.

The hard part, for us, will be breakfast. My kids seem to think breakfast is always "free" at hotels because we either stay CL or we stay places that offer free full breakfast. They assume that we wake up and breakfast is all they want to eat, and whatever they want, immediately. It will be hard to switch gears and explain that we must BUY breakfast and they must choose ONLY what they really are going to eat.

I understand your hesitation, but you will still have a great time at a Deluxe without CL. It's just a bit of an adjustment.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:20 AM   #3
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We'll be doing it this year. We are doing WL, but not CL. We are doing a cruise beforehand and wanted to save some money on the resort afterwards. Plus, we'll probably be so stuffed that we won't really miss the food.

The hard part, for us, will be breakfast. My kids seem to think breakfast is always "free" at hotels because we either stay CL or we stay places that offer free full breakfast. They assume that we wake up and breakfast is all they want to eat, and whatever they want, immediately. It will be hard to switch gears and explain that we must BUY breakfast and they must choose ONLY what they really are going to eat.

I understand your hesitation, but you will still have a great time at a Deluxe without CL. It's just a bit of an adjustment.
I get this. My kids automatically want to know where the "snack room" is...that's probably bad. Might be good to break them out of that mindset. Although I do love it because I don't have to pull out the wallet everything they are hungry or thirsty. Though, with all the money saved by not staying CL, that wallet would be more full.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:11 AM   #4
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We gave up CL long ago... Just isn't worth the high cost , and poor discounts, for nuts and crackers anymore.... Plus having to be at the resort to enjoy it.... Parks are more fun to waste time in... Not a crowded, filthy overrun CL lounge...

We take that saving, up grade to a deluxe resort, go a grocery / alcohol stop and load up our room with better offerings served anytime we want... We prefer to hang at the pool when we're at the resort... We make picnic lunches, adult beverages in our cooler... Resort room is for sleeping....

CL is a lot of extra money, for what ? Rooms are the same as regular, I can still get turn down service if I want... Other than the token food offerings, I eat at the food court better for breakfast and dinner cheaper paying OOP than CL money cost...

Nope, sorry... CL has gone so far down hill from its past glory, pocket the savings and go regular... No more personalize service !
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:29 AM   #5
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We gave up CL long ago... Just isn't worth the high cost , and poor discounts, for nuts and crackers anymore.... Plus having to be at the resort to enjoy it.... Parks are more fun to waste time in... Not a crowded, filthy overrun CL lounge...

We take that saving, up grade to a deluxe resort, go a grocery / alcohol stop and load up our room with better offerings served anytime we want... We prefer to hang at the pool when we're at the resort... We make picnic lunches, adult beverages in our cooler... Resort room is for sleeping....

CL is a lot of extra money, for what ? Rooms are the same as regular, I can still get turn down service if I want... Other than the token food offerings, I eat at the food court better for breakfast and dinner cheaper paying OOP than CL money cost...

Nope, sorry... CL has gone so far down hill from its past glory, pocket the savings and go regular... No more personalize service !
I agree that monetarily you definitely don't get anywhere near dollar for dollar back on that CL "investment".

We have experienced personalized service though at WL and at YC (we were even chosen as Family of the Day at YC!!!)

But, I am sure we would have just as much fun not having it, and not feeling like we need to be back at the resort to take advantage of the offerings...
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:29 PM   #6
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Yes, plus it seems really competitive for food. I even read a TR where someone got scolded by another guest for taking two eggrollls instead of one! What!?

I mean, $150 a night + tax can buy a lot of great things! I'm not talking just gummy bears and goldfish either. No competition for them, either.

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We gave up CL long ago... Just isn't worth the high cost , and poor discounts, for nuts and crackers anymore.... Plus having to be at the resort to enjoy it.... Parks are more fun to waste time in... Not a crowded, filthy overrun CL lounge...

We take that saving, up grade to a deluxe resort, go a grocery / alcohol stop and load up our room with better offerings served anytime we want... We prefer to hang at the pool when we're at the resort... We make picnic lunches, adult beverages in our cooler... Resort room is for sleeping....

CL is a lot of extra money, for what ? Rooms are the same as regular, I can still get turn down service if I want... Other than the token food offerings, I eat at the food court better for breakfast and dinner cheaper paying OOP than CL money cost...

Nope, sorry... CL has gone so far down hill from its past glory, pocket the savings and go regular... No more personalize service !
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #7
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Yes, plus it seems really competitive for food. I even read a TR where someone got scolded by another guest for taking two eggrollls instead of one! What!?

I mean, $150 a night + tax can buy a lot of great things! I'm not talking just gummy bears and goldfish either. No competition for them, either.
We paid less than $80 more a night for CL from what we were paying for a standard and for 6 people, 3 of them adults, with breakfast, snacks, dessert and alcohol it was well worth it.

We also did not experience being scolded by anyone for food, lol. There was plenty to go around. The CMs even gave us extra of things like the special GF cookies and beer to keep in our room. I can't even imagine what my reaction would be if a guest scolded me about how much food I out on my plate. The nerve of some people.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:03 PM   #8
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Parks are more fun to waste time in... Not a crowded, filthy overrun CL lounge...
You are kidding, I hope. Crowded, filthy, overrun. Come on! Because if you aren't, this is an over exaggeration of a statement that is nowhere near the truth. I also agree with a previous poster - my idea of a vacation is not to buy food to bring back to my room to eat. Or are the parks too crowded for you to enjoy eating there?
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You are kidding, I hope. Crowded, filthy, overrun. Come on! Because if you aren't, this is an over exaggeration of a statement that is nowhere near the truth. I also agree with a previous poster - my idea of a vacation is not to buy food to bring back to my room to eat. Or are the parks too crowded for you to enjoy eating there?
You do and see what you want... For our perspective, they were scattered with food on the floor , hence filthy, most items not replaced , overrun, and crowded to a point of no seating left.... Exaggeration, I don't think so...and if making a sandwich is beyond your princess attitude, sorry... Restaurant food just is not that good in WDW for everyday but then again, you probably haul food into the parks...

No, we're carefree and spend wisely, CL. is not wisely... I'll bow out of this debate now, have a nice day !
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:29 AM   #10
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I would totally have to agree.
I stayed one time at Club Level at the Wilderness Lodge.
It was a lot of extra money for cold cereal and muffins and afternoon cookies.
Never mind the fact that I was on the dining plan and eating at a number of good restaurants.
I have also stayed at the Club Level at a couple of different Ritz Carlton's.
They are leaps and bounds better than the club level at Disney.
And the rooms at the Ritz cost the same as the club rooms at Disney.
Save your money and just do deluxe.

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We gave up CL long ago... Just isn't worth the high cost , and poor discounts, for nuts and crackers anymore.... Plus having to be at the resort to enjoy it.... Parks are more fun to waste time in... Not a crowded, filthy overrun CL lounge...

We take that saving, up grade to a deluxe resort, go a grocery / alcohol stop and load up our room with better offerings served anytime we want... We prefer to hang at the pool when we're at the resort... We make picnic lunches, adult beverages in our cooler... Resort room is for sleeping....

CL is a lot of extra money, for what ? Rooms are the same as regular, I can still get turn down service if I want... Other than the token food offerings, I eat at the food court better for breakfast and dinner cheaper paying OOP than CL money cost...

Nope, sorry... CL has gone so far down hill from its past glory, pocket the savings and go regular... No more personalize service !
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We gave up CL long ago... Just isn't worth the high cost , and poor discounts, for nuts and crackers anymore.... Plus having to be at the resort to enjoy it.... Parks are more fun to waste time in... Not a crowded, filthy overrun CL lounge...

We take that saving, up grade to a deluxe resort, go a grocery / alcohol stop and load up our room with better offerings served anytime we want... We prefer to hang at the pool when we're at the resort... We make picnic lunches, adult beverages in our cooler... Resort room is for sleeping....

CL is a lot of extra money, for what ? Rooms are the same as regular, I can still get turn down service if I want... Other than the token food offerings, I eat at the food court better for breakfast and dinner cheaper paying OOP than CL money cost...

Nope, sorry... CL has gone so far down hill from its past glory, pocket the savings and go regular... No more personalize service !
I totally disagree with this. That has not been my experience at all.

FWIW, we get the military 40% discount on CL. It is definitely NOT worth rack rate, but none of the resorts are "worth" rack rate IMO. We don't go without significant discounts. For the price we pay, CL pays for itself on just breakfast and alcohol.

I don't go on vacation to order groceries and prepare my own food. To each his own though.

Without CL, I will happily eat my meals and buy my drinks elsewhere. We'll be losing the convenience but that's okay for this trip since it's short.
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I totally disagree with this. That has not been my experience at all.

FWIW, we get the military 40% discount on CL. It is definitely NOT worth rack rate, but none of the resorts are "worth" rack rate IMO. We don't go without significant discounts. For the price we pay, CL pays for itself on just breakfast and alcohol.

I don't go on vacation to order groceries and prepare my own food. To each his own though.

Without CL, I will happily eat my meals and buy my drinks elsewhere. We'll be losing the convenience but that's okay for this trip since it's short.
We go with the 40% discount as well.

We would NEVER pay rack rate.
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Recently on this board a poster talked about her do it yourself plan. She brought cereals and snacks from home and bought milk from the giftshop. It seemed like a good way to wean off CL. The kids still had snacks but she saved the CL costs. To be honest I do not see the need for all the extra food. On my first Disney trip I brought it all. Cookies, granola bars, flavor packets for water, etc. 95% came back with me. We also had leftover credits from free dining.
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Recently on this board a poster talked about her do it yourself plan. She brought cereals and snacks from home and bought milk from the giftshop. It seemed like a good way to wean off CL. The kids still had snacks but she saved the CL costs. To be honest I do not see the need for all the extra food. On my first Disney trip I brought it all. Cookies, granola bars, flavor packets for water, etc. 95% came back with me. We also had leftover credits from free dining.
We don't do the dining plan anymore as we always had leftover credits and it was such a waste for us.

I might just get snacks and juiceboxes and such for the room, along with beers for DH and go from there.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:02 AM   #15
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Snack Box!

We pack a Snack Box for the room. We drive so the tranport is not an issue. I have one of those Rubbermaid tubs - not the huge one, just the medium sized one. Before we leave we go to the store and stock up on all the snacks that everyone wants and fill the box to the rim (have taken stuff out of the original boxes and packed in food storage bags to save room). Then we also buy several cases of soft drinks and fill the fridge when we get there. We still eat breakfast at the food courts (we take the softdrinks from the room) and have all our meals in the parks as well as any snacks we want. BUT, when we go back to the room for our mid-day swim/rest and at night after we go back to the resorts, the boys can pig-out all they want and not have to buy that!

Works great for us and a lot cheaper than CL.
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