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Old 05-11-2013, 05:19 PM   #1
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Question 20,000 ppl? crowd level?

If there are 20,000 ppl in the Magic Kingdom- what crowd level is that considered?
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:22 PM   #2
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If there are 20,000 ppl in the Magic Kingdom- what crowd level is that considered?
I don't *know* but I think it would be pretty low.
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I don't *know* but I think it would be pretty low.
Do you k ow what the capacity is for MK?
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Do you k ow what the capacity is for MK?
Like 75,000 but I think it went up with New Fantasyland.
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Do you k ow what the capacity is for MK?
I thought I remember hearing (maybe from a CM but not from a bus driver - we have a car!) or reading that before NFL it was 50,000 ish and with NFL it was now 70,000 ish but that could be way off.
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I thought I remember hearing (maybe from a CM but not from a bus driver - we have a car!) or reading that before NFL it was 50,000 ish and with NFL it was now 70,000 ish but that could be way off.
Not sure at what level the closures start but given the 2011 average per day of 46,900 it has to be well above 50,000 and probably more like 60,000+ for phase 1.
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Not sure at what level the closures start but given the 2011 average per day of 46,900 it has to be well above 50,000 and probably more like 60,000+ for phase 1.
I don't know I think that figure would be more useful if there were no PH feature. Visitors like our family hit at least 2 parks per day and up to 4 if we're in a PH mood. So the turnstiles would count us as a visitor to MK but we wouldn't really be there all day - does that make sense?

I guess I'm saying on an average day all 47,000 ish people aren't there at the same time. Some folks do stay all day; others PH; some take an afternoon break, some do RD and leave after the parade etc......
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I was at DLP when there were about 10,000 people (End of Jan) it was AWESoME!
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I thought I remember hearing (maybe from a CM but not from a bus driver - we have a car!) or reading that before NFL it was 50,000 ish and with NFL it was now 70,000 ish but that could be way off.
What does the National Football League have to do with it?
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Considering that MK averaged about 46,900 per day in 2011 (last full year stats I've seen) then 20,000 would likely be considered quite low.
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If there are 20,000 ppl in the Magic Kingdom- what crowd level is that considered?
Pretty low.
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If there are 20,000 ppl in the Magic Kingdom- what crowd level is that considered?
Out of curiosity, why did you choose that number? Did you see it somewhere?

That number is quite low. Most estimates for a party sellout are 25,000 or more, and MK is not crowded for those park-wide.
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Out of curiosity, why did you choose that number? Did you see it somewhere?

That number is quite low. Most estimates for a party sellout are 25,000 or more, and MK is not crowded for those park-wide.
We've never been to WDW during Xmas and the Xmas party they have said they sell 20,000 tickets. I was wondering if that would be crowded or not and worth it.
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We were there on a fairly busy Saturday in mid-December in 2011. A CM told us there had been 30K there the day before. We were there and indeed experienced a fairly light day. They also told us they were told to expect 60K that day. Don't know if it hit that but it was exponentially busier. (Friday had been an early close party day and Saturday was the final day seasonal APs could be used).

That said, capacity closure never happens that week (I believe that Saturday was 12/17) and I doubt was ever a possibility that day.

So I would just make a complete guess and say closure doesn't happen below 75K. I might even put the number higher.

Do you suppose people who really know the number love sitting around laughing at posts like mine?
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We were there on a fairly busy Saturday in mid-December in 2011. A CM told us there had been 30K there the day before. We were there and indeed experienced a fairly light day. They also told us they were told to expect 60K that day. Don't know if it hit that but it was exponentially busier. (Friday had been an early close party day and Saturday was the final day seasonal APs could be used).

That said, capacity closure never happens that week (I believe that Saturday was 12/17) and I doubt was ever a possibility that day.

So I would just make a complete guess and say closure doesn't happen below 75K. I might even put the number higher.

Do you suppose people who really know the number love sitting around laughing at posts like mine?
It's funny, as I was writing my purely speculative post I pictured someone from Disney who knows the actual number reading it and giggling.

I just can't ever get a good feel for numbers in the parks. In my wildest dreams I would never imagine you could fit 50,000 or more people in the MK though I'm sure you can. I don't have a feel for what that would be like. Heck.. even 20,000 makes me think "No Way!" and sounds like an impossibly crowded number.
I've been on very quiet days and very busy days and I can tell you I felt like hardly anyone was there, or I felt like I was in a sea of humanity.. but numbers? I couldn't even begin to guess.
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